Old rule?...good??

[ajrack]

I was in Houston at "Le Cue", back in '75...
I was playing a guy who did the following: I had a ball right in front of my pocket and he had no way of getting it out except by maybe following the cue ball in behind it.
He asked me if he could "PASS"?...I asked what he meant and he explained
that around there, instead of the chance of not following the ball in, many of the guys would simply just jump the cue ball into the object ball and the cue ball would go of the table ..
then the object ball would be spotted and the opponent would have ball in hand, behind...instead of taking the chance of not following the object ball into the pocket.
...to save the balls going on the floor, they would just say "pass" and save the damage...
I still think it is a pretty good idea, mainly because most everybody nowdays, can easily jump the balls of the table.
What do you think? Good idea? I personally allow this to happen in the one pocket tourneys I run...

[jrhendy]

Maybe we will hear from Sactown Tom who runs the one pocket tournaments at Hard Times in Sacramento (that draw some of the best players in the country) on this one. Jumping the table after making the ball is not always a cinch. I've played one pocket for 45+ years out here and never seen or heard of a pass. It is a good idea if both players agree, and an interesting point. That's what is great about one pocket, you can always learn something new.

[BackPocket9Ball]

I don't agree with this "pass" idea.

Yes, it's very easy to jump both balls off the table if the cueball is within a couple of feet of the object ball. However, many times the cueball is much further away from the object ball. In such cases it can be very difficult to either follow the cueball into the pocket OR jump the cueball off the table. A "pass" rule, however, would unfairly keep the player in the tough situation in the game. How could one determine when a successfully executed jump shot is a given and when it is not?

I've lost many games by trying to jump both balls off the table, but being unable to do so because the cueball was too far away from the object ball. I've also won many games when the same was true for my opponent.

[SactownTom]

I was in Houston at "Le Cue", back in '75...
He asked me if he could "PASS" I personally allow this to happen in the one pocket tourneys I run...

Curious Tom has to ask "How do you explain this to your tournament entries?"

I am still trying to figure out how to explain the "choice of keeping the ball or spotting it, on a table foul" rule to the players out here.

Not trying to be difficult, just trying to understand.

I'm only 56 and haven't been playing 1P very long, only about 20 years. But, West coast 1P is quite different than what they play in the Mid-West (IN, OH and KY)

[ajrack]

Remember it is up to both players to agree on the "pass"...

My answer to the other situation...if the cue ball goes off the table or into a pocket...any object ball that's pocketed gets spotted in addition to the penalty ball
...if it is simply a "table foul" the ball pocketed stays in...and a penalty ball is spotted

[Will Sendit]

But, West coast 1P is quite different than what they play in the Mid-West (IN, OH and KY)

Whats the difference?

[SactownTom]

Whats the difference?

In My Opinion;

Mid-West 1P players are movers and slow to go offensive. More strategic.

West Coast players have a tendancy to take the High risk shots that have the high reward. More gutsy more offensive minded. But, they can still show Mid-West charactoristics when necessary.