Adopt Official OnePocket.org One Pocket rules

[onepocket]

As most of you have noticed, here on this forum we have had quite a few threads and polls on different details of the proposed OnePocket.org One Pocket rules. Based on those threads and polls these proposed rules have been fine-tuned several times. Keep in mind that none of these rules polls have had unanimous results – it’s a free country and everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and God knows, we like to exercise that right!

Still, most of the rules polls did have fairly clear majority opinions, and those majority opinions have been incorporated into these rules. The polls are linked below if you would like to check any of them out.
If the break isn't legal... (http://onepocket.org/forum/showthread.php?t=160)
Should a foul be charged for knocking an object ball off the table? (http://onepocket.org/forum/showthread.php?t=97)
After the cue ball hits the stack, what makes a legal break? (http://onepocket.org/forum/showthread.php?t=130)

The one poll that stands at a dead heat is the question of whether jump cues should be permitted in One Pocket (http://onepocket.org/forum/showthread.php?t=105) With the jump cue poll inconclusive, at this time the OnePocket.org rules follow the general rules of pocket billiards, and therefore do not prohibit jump cues -- any special rule restricting jump cues would have to be locally established by house rules or a tournament director.

I will be looking for a three quarters majority vote to adopt these rules as official, but if you don’t think these rules are ready yet to adopt as official, then by all means vote to keep working on them. However, if you do vote against adopting them as written, please also post your suggestions for improvement. These rules cannot be further improved without your help.

Please review the "Proposed Official Rules for One Pocket" (http://onepocket.org/one_pocket_pool_rules.htm)and register your vote! If you have visited the OnePocket.org rules page recently then you may need to refresh your screen to see the proposed final 10-19-04 updated version!(Sorry, the PDF version is not up to date at this time!)

[casey]

I spoke to a top pro player (don't remember his name ) but we were talking about shooting a ball into your opponents pocket by mistake ( thinking it was your pocket ). He told me that if the opponent does not say anything after you shoot the 1st ball in, and let's you shoot a 2nd ball into his pocket, that pocket becomes your pocket and you keep shooting. Have you ever heard anything like that. Thanks, Casey

[NH Steve]

I spoke to a top pro player (don't remember his name ) but we were talking about shooting a ball into your opponents pocket by mistake ( thinking it was your pocket ). He told me that if the opponent does not say anything after you shoot the 1st ball in, and let's you shoot a 2nd ball into his pocket, that pocket becomes your pocket and you keep shooting. Have you ever heard anything like that. Thanks, CaseyCasey, I don't know if you can read these rules, but they were published originally in a 1962 issue of Chalk Up! magazine as a prelude to the 1962 Johnston City tournament. If you can read item #12, it describes something like that -- except the pocket only becomes yours if you get 'out' into the wrong pocket.

http://onepocket.org/images/Chalk-Up62Rules.jpg

I've also heard a Fats story where he was playing someone and his opponent accidently shot to the wrong pocket -- Fats' pocket -- but they didn't make the ball they shot at. Fats didn't say anything, though, and instead he shot a neutral kind of safety. Sure enough the other player shot again to Fats' pocket, this time making a ball in Fats' pocket. Again Fats didn't say anything, so the other player ran off a few more balls until he faced a tougher shot and would have only need a ball or two to get out (in the wrong pocket!). At that point Fats spoke up to say something like, 'You're shooting at my pocket, but I'll take over now, 'cuz these next couple are a little tough for you.'

I'm not too keen on a rule that encourages that kind of thing, that's why these proposed rules have the 2nd and on balls to the wrong pocket (assuming shot in the same inning) be spotted as neutral balls.

As always, your input is appreciated...

[gulfportdoc]

I'm not too keen on a rule that encourages that kind of thing, that's why these proposed rules have the 2nd and on balls to the wrong pocket (assuming shot in the same inning) be spotted as neutral balls.

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I agree with that, Steve. If a similar rule to the Jansco's Rule #12 were adopted, what would prevent a player who had no shot to his own hole --but a pattern to his opponent's hole-- from running out for the win in the wrong hole?! I've heard the story you presented, but the version I heard was attributed to a Ronnie Allen gambit. We'll probably never know...

Doc

[NH Steve]

I agree with that, Steve. If a similar rule to the Jansco's Rule #12 were adopted, what would prevent a player who had no shot to his own hole --but a pattern to his opponent's hole-- from running out for the win in the wrong hole?! I've heard the story you presented, but the version I heard was attributed to a Ronnie Allen gambit. We'll probably never know...

DocI was watching an Accustats One Pocket tape last night and Danny happens to tell the tail end of this same story, with Fats as the player, but I believe I've heard it with Ronnie as well. I might even have combined the first part from a Ronnie story and the end from the Fats story to come up with what I posted...
My memory is not always to be trusted :)

If you haven't already, please take a minute to read these proposed rules:
http://onepocket.org/one_pocket_pool_rules.htm
and either comment or vote -- or both -- on them. I'm looking into the idea of putting together a poster with these rules on it, so I'd really like to get them into shape for that...