Some of Grady's Pictures - Thread 2

[CaliRed]

Here's some more.. Grady's captions are below the picture.

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Cole Dixon, great west coast 9 Ball player. A ton of gamble and a stroke to match. I'm lobbying to get him in the action Catagory HOF. By the way Oscar, if you read this we should nominate your Dad.

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The wrap party after "Thr Color Of Money", Jo Ann Woodward whose face you can't see and across the table Mastrontonio

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Round Lake Mike", a highrolling shortstop playing "Freddie the Beard". Behing Mike is Doc Holliday, then Ronnie and me

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Pete Margo, Fred Astaire and Danny D. Astaire loved pool and this photo was taken when a straight pool tournament was held at the Elks club in So-cal.

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Minnesota Fats

[Skin]

I looked at all those photos from the link you posted in the original thread, Red. If I knew none of them, the guy I would least like to play for anything important, just based on appearances, is Marcel Camp. The guy just has that "look" about him. :D

Skin

http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu189/TxSkin/MarcelCamp.jpg

[androd]

I looked at all those photos from the link you posted in the original thread, Red. If I knew none of them, the guy I would least like to play for anything important, just based on appearances, is Marcel Camp. The guy just has that "look" about him. :D

Skin

http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu189/TxSkin/MarcelCamp.jpg

Skin, thanks for posting that pic. It brings back some memories of a truly exceptional pool player, character and friend. :)
Rod.

[NH Steve]

Here's some more.. Grady's captions are below the picture.

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Cole Dixon, great west coast 9 Ball player. A ton of gamble and a stroke to match. I'm lobbying to get him in the action Catagory HOF. By the way Oscar, if you read this we should nominate your Dad.
To me, that does not look like Cole. It looks like another guy I cannot think of his name...
http://onepocket.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1061

[CaliRed]

To me, that does not look like Cole. It looks like another guy I cannot think of his name...
http://onepocket.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1061

I thought the same thing Steve. 1st Cole had dirty blond hair I thought. He would have looked alot younger back then. I'm assuming this photo is 20 years old or somewhere thereabouts.

While his grip and stroke has Cole tendancies to it, it just doesn't look like him.

The whole picture has a photoshopped look to it with the head and all, but I seriously doubt that:D

We'll have to have Grady look at it again and tell us if he made a mistake or whether he remembers this time frame of the picture.

I know I have another picture of Cole, but can't find it anywhere... here's another picture of him from this site.
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[Frank Almanza]

To me, that does not look like Cole. It looks like another guy I cannot think of his name...
http://onepocket.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1061
I played Cole numerous times since he was 16 years old until he became top notch and we became good friends. This picture doesn't look like him at all. We need clarification.

[wincardona]

There is no chance, what so ever that this isn't Cole Dickson. I'll lay a million to one on this being Cole. Actually i'm surprised that The Beard hasn't confirmed that this is Cole, he knows him almost as well as I do.

[NH Steve]

There is no chance, what so ever that this isn't Cole Dickson. I'll lay a million to one on this being Cole. Actually i'm surprised that The Beard hasn't confirmed that this is Cole, he knows him almost as well as I do.You're probably right -- at the last DCC Diana Hoppe showed me a grainy old B&W photo and asked if it was Cole and I did not think so -- but Cole himself stopped by and confirmed that it was indeed him.

[fred bentivegna]

There is no chance, what so ever that this isn't Cole Dickson. I'll lay a million to one on this being Cole. Actually i'm surprised that The Beard hasn't confirmed that this is Cole, he knows him almost as well as I do.

You're looking at the wrong photo, Willy!? The one with Charlie Devalliere is of course, Cole. The picture they are talking about is in post #1, attachment 1061. Dat aint no way Cole. Dat aint remotely Cole. I was just with him last week. Take a look at that pic. It aint even close. That's two misses in row for you today. You missed Danny Gartner and now Cole. You must be getting very old. Maybe OldschoolPool is right about not trusting your posts or your memory anymore.

Beard

[gulfportdoc]

There is no chance, what so ever that this isn't Cole Dickson. I'll lay a million to one on this being Cole. Actually i'm surprised that The Beard hasn't confirmed that this is Cole, he knows him almost as well as I do.
Billy, I'll take that bet. For clarity, you're laying $1Million against my $1.00. If after your careful consideration, we can adjust if you insist.

Doc

[gulfportdoc]

Actually the picture looks more like Allen Gold (aka Gilbert), the 3C champ, than it does Dickson. Seems like one of our guys ought to know.

Doc

[Grady]

I've known Cole since he was 11. There is no chance that that's not him in that picture.

[CaliRed]

I've known Cole since he was 11. There is no chance that that's not him in that picture.

hehe... just so we're all on the same page here.

I posted 5 pics in the 1st post of this thread. The very first pic is labelled Cole Dickson. Steve started out by saying he didn't believe it was him, I also did not believe it looked like him. We were both wanting someone to confirm it. In my post where I said it didn't look like him, I also posted a different picture of Cole Dickson, that is clearly him.

Now I think some us aren't reading the posts correctly and I think some of us are debating whether the picture I posted later on it this thread, is Cole or not. There is not debate on that picture... the picture in debate is the VERY FIRST picture in this thread, which I will repost below.

Billy says it is 100% Cole (not sure of which pic he is talking about)

Frank says he doesn't think it's him (sounds like Franks' talking about the right picture)

Freddy says Billy's on drugs and there is no way that is him, that Billy's talking about the wrong picture

Grady says it's him, no doubt.

So........ is this picture Cole Dickson, or not?:D

So far, we have Freddy, NH Steve, myself and Frank, that do not think it's him... Grady and Billy, are you sticking to it is him, in the picture below?
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[Grady]

Yes, it's Cole

[Grady]

As I really scrutinize the picture, I see that it might not be Cole and yes, his hair was pretty blonde, not as dark as in this photo.

[wincardona]

You're looking at the wrong photo, Willy!? The one with Charlie Devalliere is of course, Cole. The picture they are talking about is in post #1, attachment 1061. Dat aint no way Cole. Dat aint remotely Cole. I was just with him last week. Take a look at that pic. It aint even close. That's two misses in row for you today. You missed Danny Gartner and now Cole. You must be getting very old. Maybe OldschoolPool is right about not trusting your posts or your memory anymore.

Beard
You're the one whoi is losing it, pal. I'm not looking at the wrong picture, and it is Cole Dickson. So you were with him last week, I was with him when he looked like the guy in this picture, and i'll still lay a million to one, and pay.

In regard to the Danny Gartner picture, yes that is Danny to the left of Crane, my bad. I was thinking he was speaking of the player to the left of Ronnie, and that is Taylor.

I'm very good remembering faces, thats how I made a big portion of my living, every time I walked into a Chicago pool room I looked for your face.:p

[wincardona]

As I really scrutinize the picture, I see that it might not be Cole and yes, his hair was pretty blonde, not as dark as in this photo.


Don't dog it here Grady, that is Cole. Tight grip with the back hand, chin on cue, definetly the characteristics of Cole. And his face looks like Cole Dickson. Grady lay a million to one along with me so we can both get back on a winning streak.:D

[wincardona]

hehe... just so we're all on the same page here.

I posted 5 pics in the 1st post of this thread. The very first pic is labelled Cole Dickson. Steve started out by saying he didn't believe it was him, I also did not believe it looked like him. We were both wanting someone to confirm it. In my post where I said it didn't look like him, I also posted a different picture of Cole Dickson, that is clearly him.

Now I think some us aren't reading the posts correctly and I think some of us are debating whether the picture I posted later on it this thread, is Cole or not. There is not debate on that picture... the picture in debate is the VERY FIRST picture in this thread, which I will repost below.

Billy says it is 100% Cole (not sure of which pic he is talking about)

Frank says he doesn't think it's him (sounds like Franks' talking about the right picture)

Freddy says Billy's on drugs and there is no way that is him, that Billy's talking about the wrong picture

Grady says it's him, no doubt.

So........ is this picture Cole Dickson, or not?:D

So far, we have Freddy, NH Steve, myself and Frank, that do not think it's him... Grady and Billy, are you sticking to it is him, in the picture below?
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I'll give anyone two balls,(big balls 8 to 6) that thinks this is not Cole Dickson. Shit, make it four balls.

[wincardona]

Billy, I'll take that bet. For clarity, you're laying $1Million against my $1.00. If after your careful consideration, we can adjust if you insist.

Doc
Doc, you have that bet of $1,000,000.00 to $1.00, only if you take the next bet of $1,000,000.00 to $2.00. Agreed.:cool:

[wincardona]

You're looking at the wrong photo, Willy!? The one with Charlie Devalliere is of course, Cole. The picture they are talking about is in post #1, attachment 1061. Dat aint no way Cole. Dat aint remotely Cole. I was just with him last week. Take a look at that pic. It aint even close. That's two misses in row for you today. You missed Danny Gartner and now Cole. You must be getting very old. Maybe OldschoolPool is right about not trusting your posts or your memory anymore.

Beard

Freddie I will buy 5 of your shirts for $200 a shirt if this is not a picture of Cole Dickson (even though you were with him last week)If it is you will send me the shirts for free. ( free shipping too) Agreed.:D

[mr3cushion]

You're the one whoi is losing it, pal. I'm not looking at the wrong picture, and it is Cole Dickson. So you were with him last week, I was with him when he looked like the guy in this picture, and i'll still lay a million to one, and pay.

In regard to the Danny Gartner picture, yes that is Danny to the left of Crane, my bad. I was thinking he was speaking of the player to the left of Ronnie, and that is Taylor.

I'm very good remembering faces, thats how I made a big portion of my living, every time I walked into a Chicago pool room I looked for your face.:p

Billy; what year would you venture to say that pic was taken, if it's Cole!

Bill Smith "Mr3Cushion"

[wincardona]

Billy; what year would you venture to say that pic was taken, if it's Cole!

Bill Smith "Mr3Cushion"

I'm really not sure of the age he was in this picture. If I had to guess ,he looks like at least 40 years old. And it is definetly Cole.

[Terry Ardeno]

Actually the picture looks more like Allen Gold (aka Gilbert), the 3C champ, than it does Dickson. Seems like one of our guys ought to know.

Doc


You're right Doc, that does look a lot like Allen Gilbert. But no 3C player ever sights that low, plus, I never knew Gilbert to venture that much into pocket billiards.

[bobbycotton]

That is for sure Cole in that photo with the dark hair ! Some of y'alls memory is fading, better not play sleepers, haha !

[Terry Ardeno]

Freddie I will buy 5 of your shirts for $200 a shirt if this is not a picture of Cole Dickson (even though you were with him last week)If it is you will send me the shirts for free. ( free shipping too) Agreed.:D


To whom it may concern.....

I have never seen Billy THIS adamant about a subject before! Considering how right he is when he's NOT betting Beard shirts, I would just go ahead and caption the pic as Mr. Cole Dixon!

If Billy believes this is Mr Dixon THAT strongly, to bet real "Beard" shirts, THAT is just too strong to argue with! :D

[Clare]

I do not know Cole, but when I study the faces, I would have to say it is him(assuming the one in the other pic is def him). I put them side by side on my computer and studied the facial structure, etc., and I say it's him. You can't go by hair color, etc., you have to look at the facial bones and features. If it's not, it's his twin.:) :)

[CaliRed]

Don't dog it here Grady, that is Cole. Tight grip with the back hand, chin on cue, definetly the characteristics of Cole. And his face looks like Cole Dickson. Grady lay a million to one along with me so we can both get back on a winning streak.:D

Well, you just noticed what I had noticed, that made me believe it was Cole, in regards to his grip and elbow positioning. He has what I would characterize as a piston for a stoke. No other movements from his body on his stroke except from his elbow down and it just goes straight forward, straight back.

And since your willing to buy 200.00 t-shirts and lay a million to one and give up 4 balls, I'm going to go ahead and mark it down as Cole Dixon, which is what Grady had it in the 1st place.:D

[SJDinPHX]

I'm in with Cardone here. That is not a very flattering picture of him, but it IS him. I've known him since he was a pup, and saw him often through the years. Tony Sprague (RIP) and I, steered him around when he came to Phx about 10 years ago. That pic is definately from several years prior to that time.
I think the hair is throwing everyone off. His hair was dishwater blond in those years, but it could be the lighting, or maybe his girlfriend du joir gave him a dye job to go undercover...not impossible...;)

[mr3cushion]

You're right Doc, that does look a lot like Allen Gilbert. But no 3C player ever sights that low, plus, I never knew Gilbert to venture that much into pocket billiards.

Doc; Allen Gilbert AKA (AL Gold) was a very good friend of mine and was a great money player in 3 cush. The reason it can't be him is, he was a LEFTY AKA (Lefty AL Gold). Al did get down a little lower on the cue ball than most 3c players.

Bill Smith "Mr3Cushion"

[gulfportdoc]

Doc, you have that bet of $1,000,000.00 to $1.00, only if you take the next bet of $1,000,000.00 to $2.00. Agreed.:cool:
I sense a carny move here...hmmm. Do you mean I'd actually get a chance to win $2.00? Can one still buy a Snickers bar for $2.00? On the other hand, no tellin' what the "next bet" would be.:cool: I suspect it would be something like you'd want me to lay $2 to your $1M that you've never been to Pittsurgh, PA. Or maybe that Freddy would never increase his beat list.

I'll tell you what. You can buy me coffee and doughnuts at the DCC, and I'll let you eat the doughnuts.

Doc

[wincardona]

I sense a carny move here...hmmm. Do you mean I'd actually get a chance to win $2.00? Can one still buy a Snickers bar for $2.00? On the other hand, no tellin' what the "next bet" would be.:cool: I suspect it would be something like you'd want me to lay $2 to your $1M that you've never been to Pittsurgh, PA. Or maybe that Freddy would never increase his beat list.

I'll tell you what. You can buy me coffee and doughnuts at the DCC, and I'll let you eat the doughnuts.

Doc
No carny move here Doc, i'm actually laying you $2,000,000.00 to $3.00 if you accept both bets. Next bet being the same as the first only i'm getting a little better odds. Seems too good to be true, but it's not (meaning that it's true)Do you want to take a chance? By the way I don't eat donuts, i'll take a cheese burger.:D

[Frank Almanza]

As I really scrutinize the picture, I see that it might not be Cole and yes, his hair was pretty blonde, not as dark as in this photo.
I don't hear this guy saying "Frank the Barber, what do you wanna do?" like Cole said it.

[Terry Ardeno]

Doc; Allen Gilbert AKA (AL Gold) was a very good friend of mine and was a great money player in 3 cush. The reason it can't be him is, he was a LEFTY AKA (Lefty AL Gold). Al did get down a little lower on the cue ball than most 3c players.

Bill Smith "Mr3Cushion"


Nice observation Bill.

I don't play 3C but I've read a little on some of the better known 3C players.
Two questions....
1. Of all the great 3C champs, who got down the lowest in his sighting?
2. Who do you persoanlly rate as the top 5 3C players ever?

Thanks!

[fred bentivegna]

Where did Cole get the fat head and the black hair?
Granted that is how he held the butt of the cue, but he was, and still is, skinny with a thin blonde head. What was he on birth control pills to fatten his head up like that?

Is this some kind of a trap that Grady and Cardone cooked up? Billy laying those kind of odds and Grady agreeing is very suspicious.

I was just with Cole. His head is still skinny and his hair is still blonde.

Clare, you next job is going to be with William Peterson on CSI.

Beard

I should call Cole and have him take a look. But it is very unlikely that he can operate a computer.

[gulfportdoc]

Where did Cole get the fat head and the black hair?
Granted that is how he held the butt of the cue, but he was, and still is, skinny with a thin blonde head. What was he on birth control pills to fatten his head up like that?

Is this some kind of a trap that Grady and Cardone cooked up? Billy laying those kind of odds and Grady agreeing is very suspicious.

I was just with Cole. His head is still skinny and his hair is still blonde.

Clare, you next job is going to be with William Peterson on CSI.

Beard

I should call Cole and have him take a look. But it is very unlikely that he can operate a computer.
This was my thinking also, Beard. Given that Cardone would never lay 1M to 1 --even that George Washington is dead-- I became suspicious from the start. Now that he has continued with this folly, I'm sure there's some type of trap brewing.;)

What DID give me pause, is that Clare thinks that the picture is Cole, based upon her comparing the facial structures of a known picture of Cole and the one in question. Women have the innate ability to analyze facial structures for the slightest variations.

I wish someone would contact the Colester. If the pic is him, the reason it's deceiving (aside from the dark hair) is due to the view being from a different perspective than the other common pictures of him out there. Most are full face frontal shots, whereas this one is viewed from the top down.

Doc

[gulfportdoc]

No carny move here Doc, i'm actually laying you $2,000,000.00 to $3.00 if you accept both bets. Next bet being the same as the first only i'm getting a little better odds. Seems too good to be true, but it's not (meaning that it's true)Do you want to take a chance? By the way I don't eat donuts, i'll take a cheese burger.:D
Billy, I'm proud of you-- that you've stopped eating doughnuts. Maybe we can get the rest of that tum-tum of yours down a little bit.:D But the bread and the cheese on the cheeseburger would be too hi-cal as well. How about a nice imported bottled water and a small salad instead? (no extra dressing)

Doc

[Matt_24]

I have a question about Cole Dixon.

I live in Alexandria, VA and the old timers said that Cole just fired every ball in and never worried about shape and that he hit everything 100 miles an hour...and rarely missed. Does that sound about right? Just curious..and they do describe his technique this with an air of reverance, not disdain.

[BUD GREEN]

I'd guess the picture is Cole...forget the hair, and it looks like an older version of the same guy.

He does remind me of Gilbert a bit.

Since 3-C has been brought up, here's a Gilbert story:

Gilbert was playing an event in CA and won the tourney. An asian man and his backer come in and ask if anyone wants to play. Allen agrees to play to 50 for what he won in the tourney.

Of course it turns out to be Sang Lee before anyone knew what a world beater he was. Allen starts getting drilled, and then leaves the chalk on the table after shooting. Sang picks up the chalk, walks over to Allen, does a slight bow with his head, and then goes back to the table.

Allen later leaves the chalk on the table again, hoping to throw Sang off....Sang walks it over, bows his head politely, and returns it.

Allen does it a third time later, he's getting KILLED at this point, Sang is scoring more than double what Allen is.

Sang picks up the chalk, walks it 80 feet away to other end of the pool hall (California Billiards in San Jose I think) and puts the chalk on a pool table. Walks back and takes his shot, lol.

Sang won 50 to less than 20. I was told this story by my friend Tom Costello who used to go watch all the big tourneys they had in the Bay Area.

[mr3cushion]

Nice observation Bill.

I don't play 3C but I've read a little on some of the better known 3C players.
Two questions....
1. Of all the great 3C champs, who got down the lowest in his sighting?
2. Who do you persoanlly rate as the top 5 3C players ever?

Thanks!

Terry; How are you. Do you mean the best 5 players in US, or world, and same for the low sighting position, US or world?

Bill Smith "Mr3Cushion'

[wincardona]

I don't hear this guy saying "Frank the Barber, what do you wanna do?" like Cole said it.


Frank, what I noticed is that our hearing gets somewhat impaired as we age.:)

[wincardona]

Where did Cole get the fat head and the black hair?
Granted that is how he held the butt of the cue, but he was, and still is, skinny with a thin blonde head. What was he on birth control pills to fatten his head up like that?

Is this some kind of a trap that Grady and Cardone cooked up? Billy laying those kind of odds and Grady agreeing is very suspicious.

I was just with Cole. His head is still skinny and his hair is still blonde.

Clare, you next job is going to be with William Peterson on CSI.

Beard

I should call Cole and have him take a look. But it is very unlikely that he can operate a computer.

I guess I just happen to know what Cole looks like more than anyone on this site, (along with Grady) so what i'm going to do is call Cole and ask him to respond. But before he does, does anyone want my bet?

How about this bet? The next time we meet (anyone that bets) either at a tournament or wherever the winner of the bet will receive a favor from the loser ( like get me a soda, or sandwhich)and if I lose the bet I will pay two favors.

Here is a chance for The Beard and The Good Doctor to get a little free room service.:D

[wincardona]

I guess I just happen to know what Cole looks like more than anyone on this site, (along with Grady) so what i'm going to do is call Cole and ask him to respond. But before he does, does anyone want my bet?

How about this bet? The next time we meet (anyone that bets) either at a tournament or wherever the winner of the bet will receive a favor from the loser ( like get me a soda, or sandwhich)and if I lose the bet I will pay two favors.

Here is a chance for The Beard and The Good Doctor to get a little free room service.:D

I just talked to Cole and he said that later tody he will take a look at the picture to confirm if it is, or isn't him. But he said something very interesting to me, he said "WHO ELSE COULD IT BE." :confused:

[Frank Almanza]

I guess I just happen to know what Cole looks like more than anyone on this site, (along with Grady) so what i'm going to do is call Cole and ask him to respond. But before he does, does anyone want my bet?

How about this bet? The next time we meet (anyone that bets) either at a tournament or wherever the winner of the bet will receive a favor from the loser ( like get me a soda, or sandwhich)and if I lose the bet I will pay two favors.

Here is a chance for The Beard and The Good Doctor to get a little free room service.:D
Count me in.

[wincardona]

Count me in.
Your on Frank, i'll probably be at the US Open, and the DCC for sure. Get your walking shoes ready.:D

[wincardona]

I guess I just happen to know what Cole looks like more than anyone on this site, (along with Grady) so what i'm going to do is call Cole and ask him to respond. But before he does, does anyone want my bet?

How about this bet? The next time we meet (anyone that bets) either at a tournament or wherever the winner of the bet will receive a favor from the loser ( like get me a soda, or sandwhich)and if I lose the bet I will pay two favors.

Here is a chance for The Beard and The Good Doctor to get a little free room service.:D
I almost forgot, Bobby Cotton knows, and I believe SJD agrees as well.

And the rest of you guys are a sure thing to get hustled by the next player in a disguise. I'll be sending disguised players to all of your home towns.:eek:

[Deeman]

I almost forgot, Bobby Cotton knows, and I believe SJD agrees as well.

And the rest of you guys are a sure thing to get hustled by the next player in a disguise. I'll be sending disguised players to all of your home towns.:eek:


Billy,

What is really frightening here is that we have a player of considerable note who even those who have known him his entire life can't for certain make their minds up about. How does that make you feel about playing the next stranger you send our way?

I would not have recognised him with no name attached. I have only seen him a about 5 times over the years but the visual accuity of all these pool players means you may be onto something! Die your hair green, shave that face or add a goatee and you may have a whole new source of income. Next tournament, introduce yourself as Fred Astair or Barack Obama and have at 'em! :)

[androd]

Billy,

What is really frightening here is that we have a player of considerable note who even those who have known him his entire life can't for certain make their minds up about. How does that make you feel about playing the next stranger you send our way?

I would not have recognised him with no name attached. I have only seen him a about 5 times over the years but the visual accuity of all these pool players means you may be onto something! Die your hair green, shave that face or add a goatee and you may have a whole new source of income. Next tournament, introduce yourself as Fred Astair or Barack Obama and have at 'em! :)

A fellow who seemed a stranger to me came over and asked to play nine ball. Although I didn't recognize him, when he began to stutter I knew it was Billy Weir. Good disguise though. ;)
Rod.

[Clare]

I guess I just happen to know what Cole looks like more than anyone on this site, (along with Grady) so what i'm going to do is call Cole and ask him to respond. But before he does, does anyone want my bet?

How about this bet? The next time we meet (anyone that bets) either at a tournament or wherever the winner of the bet will receive a favor from the loser ( like get me a soda, or sandwhich)and if I lose the bet I will pay two favors.

Here is a chance for The Beard and The Good Doctor to get a little free room service.:D

Freddy and Doc: PLEASE take him up on this and, if you win, ask for a foot massage at the DCC. :)

[Frank Almanza]

Freddy and Doc: PLEASE take him up on this and, if you win, ask for a foot massage at the DCC. :)
I thought of that myself but I can't see myself paying off on that one.

Billy, tell Cole, no guessing. We need to know when and where this was.

[newfosgatesucks]

Fwiw if it is him, he is the master of disguise. The picture looks to be from the 60's or70's - and he looks younger NOW than in the picture. The pc I can see of him, in Eddie Robins book, he is WAY yong in the 60's -

I hope it IS him in the picture there, so I can just be baffled all nite.

[Clare]

Fwiw if it is him, he is the master of disguise. The picture looks to be from the 60's or70's - and he looks younger NOW than in the picture. The pc I can see of him, in Eddie Robins book, he is WAY yong in the 60's -

I hope it IS him in the picture there, so I can just be baffled all nite.

Hate to disagree with you, NFS, but he does not look "younger" now, just different. He looks "older" now (in the pic we are discussing), just like he should.

[gulfportdoc]

Freddy and Doc: PLEASE take him up on this and, if you win, ask for a foot massage at the DCC. :)
Now wait just a minute, Clare. You're encouraging me to take Billy up on his proposition bet, but yet in an earlier thread, you stated that you believed the picture was in fact Cole.:confused: You're not trying to sell me out, are ya?:D I mean, all three of us are from Pittsburgh, for cripes sake! I'll tell you what. If you go in halves with me, I'll take Billy's bet.

It's kind of sad, really. Billy originally talked about putting up $1M. Now it's down to a sandwich...

Doc

[lll]

:rolleyes: Now wait just a minute,

It's kind of sad, really. Billy originally talked about putting up $1M. Now it's down to a sandwich...

Doc
you know doc when you are hungry a sandwich is worth a million bucks:eek::rolleyes: just sayin;)

[Clare]

Now wait just a minute, Clare. You're encouraging me to take Billy up on his proposition bet, but yet in an earlier thread, you stated that you believed the picture was in fact Cole.:confused: You're not trying to sell me out, are ya?:D I mean, all three of us are from Pittsburgh, for cripes sake! I'll tell you what. If you go in halves with me, I'll take Billy's bet.

It's kind of sad, really. Billy originally talked about putting up $1M. Now it's down to a sandwich...

Doc

LOL. I do think the picture is him, but if you disagree, I'd like to see you take the bet with Billy. Yeah, dropping the bet like that is pretty sad. Thanks for your offer, but I'll have to pass. The whole proposition sounds a little fishy. :rolleyes:

[gulfportdoc]

The whole proposition sounds a little fishy. :rolleyes:
Well, then maybe the wager should be for a Grouper sandwich.

Doc

[Clare]

Well, then maybe the wager should be for a Grouper sandwich.

Doc

Funny, Doc. You're starting to sound like Billy. Younse must be from the same place. :)

P.S. If it's a chipped ham sandwich, I might be in on it. :D

[gulfportdoc]

Funny, Doc. You're starting to sound like Billy. Younse must be from the same place. :)

P.S. If it's a chipped ham sandwich, I might be in on it. :D
Chipped ham. Isn't that what they call mooning someone through a screen door? Lord, stop me before I pun again.:eek:

I can still remember the taste of those deeelicious chipped ham sandwiches from Isaly's.

Doc

[Clare]

Chipped ham. Isn't that what they call mooning someone through a screen door? Lord, stop me before I pun again.:eek:

I can still remember the taste of those deeelicious chipped ham sandwiches from Isaly's.

Doc

Yes, Lord, please stop him. :eek:

We had an Isaly's in downtown Monessen, just a few blocks from the Orbits (the famous pool room in Monessen). I could go for a chipped ham sandwich right now. Wash it down with a bottle of pop.

[wincardona]

Yes, Lord, please stop him. :eek:

We had an Isaly's in downtown Monessen, just a few blocks from the Orbits (the famous pool room in Monessen). I could go for a chipped ham sandwich right now. Wash it down with a bottle of pop.
Yes I remember the Isaly's in Hazelwood when I was a kid, I would go there 3 or 4 times a week to eat their chipped ham sandwhiches, usually followed with their chocolate almond ice cream. My brother use to order vanilla, I always got the chocolate almond, no better icecream than Isaly's. There was an Isaly's in Squirell Hill and the big one on I think the blvd.? What was the name of the st. the big Isaly's was on? It's not fun gettin old.:(

[jrhendy]

I played Cole numerous times since he was 16 years old until he became top notch and we became good friends. This picture doesn't look like him at all. We need clarification.

Looks a little like Rempe, but I believe it is Cole if you look close enough. The pic makes the hair darker.

[jrhendy]

You're right Doc, that does look a lot like Allen Gilbert. But no 3C player ever sights that low, plus, I never knew Gilbert to venture that much into pocket billiards.

Gilbert would play a little golf on the snooker table once & a while when he was Allen Gold. Early 60's if I remember right.

[gulfportdoc]

Yes I remember the Isaly's in Hazelwood when I was a kid, I would go there 3 or 4 times a week to eat their chipped ham sandwhiches, usually followed with their chocolate almond ice cream. My brother use to order vanilla, I always got the chocolate almond, no better icecream than Isaly's. There was an Isaly's in Squirell Hill and the big one on I think the blvd.? What was the name of the st. the big Isaly's was on? It's not fun gettin old.:(
You may be referring to the Isaly's factory and store on the Blvd. of the Allies, which I think was in Oakland. We went there on a school trip in the late 1950's, and I went back many times as a young man.

Like you, I can almost remember each individual tile on the floor, and every scratch on the tables at the Isaly's on Washington Rd. in downtown Mt. Lebanon. Their vanilla fudge ice cream was the stuff dreams were made of. I used to go there every day after junior high school to flirt with the girls. Then I found Nick's poolroom in Dormont, and haven't been the same since.:D

This is for Clare, Billy, Terry Adeno, Cal, and me:

http://www.isalys.com/about-us/

Does that storefront picture bring back any memories?

Doc

[gulfportdoc]

Gilbert would play a little golf on the snooker table once & a while when he was Allen Gold. Early 60's if I remember right.
You're right, John. He very occasionally played a little golf at Tiff Payne's in N. Hyd in the late 60's.

I don't know if the pic in question is Cole or not. I just thought it would be fun if Billy were to owe me a million dollars.;)

Doc

[Frank Almanza]

Looks a little like Rempe, but I believe it is Cole if you look close enough. The pic makes the hair darker.
It must be Cole because when I put the curser on his face it tells me "coledixon.jpg" and cursers don't lie. So it must be him. Maybe Billy will let me out of the bet.

[Clare]

Yes I remember the Isaly's in Hazelwood when I was a kid, I would go there 3 or 4 times a week to eat their chipped ham sandwhiches, usually followed with their chocolate almond ice cream. My brother use to order vanilla, I always got the chocolate almond, no better icecream than Isaly's. There was an Isaly's in Squirell Hill and the big one on I think the blvd.? What was the name of the st. the big Isaly's was on? It's not fun gettin old.:(


You may be referring to the Isaly's factory and store on the Blvd. of the Allies, which I think was in Oakland. We went there on a school trip in the late 1950's, and I went back many times as a young man.

Like you, I can almost remember each individual tile on the floor, and every scratch on the tables at the Isaly's on Washington Rd. in downtown Mt. Lebanon. Their vanilla fudge ice cream was the stuff dreams were made of. I used to go there every day after junior high school to flirt with the girls. Then I found Nick's poolroom in Dormont, and haven't been the same since.

This is for Clare, Billy, Terry Adeno, Cal, and me:

http://www.isalys.com/about-us/

Does that storefront picture bring back any memories?

Doc

Billy, I believe Doc is right. The big one was in Oakland, with quite a few others scattered about. I loved their ice cream, too, but I especially loved their milk shakes. Thanks for the link to the website, Doc. Looks like they distribute the chipped ham all over now. Great memories ! I have a feeling that if we had a chipped ham sandwich today, it would just not taste like it did back in the day.

[Weatherman]

I have a question about Cole Dixon.

I live in Alexandria, VA and the old timers said that Cole just fired every ball in and never worried about shape and that he hit everything 100 miles an hour...and rarely missed. Does that sound about right? Just curious..and they do describe his technique this with an air of reverance, not disdain.

Cole still plays the same style. All you have to do to verify is check out the One Pocket match (On Accu-Stats) he played against Rudolfo Luat at Derby City. He fired at least 2 straight backs about a hundred miles an hour that didn't even think about not going! Unfortunately a few more misses have crept into his game. Otherwise Cole would have beaten Luat rather easily.
Still...
He had a top 50 finish in One pocket
He also had a top 20 finish in 9 ball!

Very impressive given he doesn't compete regularly.

[CaliRed]

Cole still plays the same style. All you have to do to verify is check out the One Pocket match (On Accu-Stats) he played against Rudolfo Luat at Derby City. He fired at least 2 straight backs about a hundred miles an hour that didn't even think about not going! Unfortunately a few more misses have crept into his game. Otherwise Cole would have beaten Luat rather easily.
Still...
He had a top 50 finish in One pocket
He also had a top 20 finish in 9 ball!

Very impressive given he doesn't compete regularly.

This has been posted in the past here, but if someone is reading Weatherman's description, it is helpful to visualize it more clearly with video:D

for those that cannot see the embedded video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiBM6JLcmK4

HiBM6JLcmK4

[lll]

This has been posted in the past here, but if someone is reading Weatherman's description, it is helpful to visualize it more clearly with video:D

for those that cannot see the embedded video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiBM6JLcmK4

HiBM6JLcmK4
nothing like hitting banks at pocket speed:rolleyes:
( the pocket on the third table down from where you are playing:D )

[wincardona]

You may be referring to the Isaly's factory and store on the Blvd. of the Allies, which I think was in Oakland. We went there on a school trip in the late 1950's, and I went back many times as a young man.

Like you, I can almost remember each individual tile on the floor, and every scratch on the tables at the Isaly's on Washington Rd. in downtown Mt. Lebanon. Their vanilla fudge ice cream was the stuff dreams were made of. I used to go there every day after junior high school to flirt with the girls. Then I found Nick's poolroom in Dormont, and haven't been the same since.:D

This is for Clare, Billy, Terry Adeno, Cal, and me:

http://www.isalys.com/about-us/

Does that storefront picture bring back any memories?

Doc

Blvd. of the Allies. Yes thank you for remembering. At least I got the blvd. thing right.:o

Now back to Braums.

[gulfportdoc]

This has been posted in the past here, but if someone is reading Weatherman's description, it is helpful to visualize it more clearly with video:D
Too bad we couldn't see a close-up freeze frame of his face while he's down on a shot. That would help to settle all that arguing over the "Cole" picture...;)

Doc

[CaliRed]

Too bad we couldn't see a close-up freeze frame of his face while he's down on a shot. That would help to settle all that arguing over the "Cole" picture...;)

Doc

hmmm... I could probably get that:D

1075

[androd]

hmmm... I could probably get that:D

1075
Who's the guy in the middle ? ;)
Rod.

[CaliRed]

Who's the guy in the middle ? ;)
Rod.

hmmm... well I took Frank's advice and hovered my mouse over it and it says the guys name is Cole Comparison.

Anyone know how he played?:D

[gulfportdoc]

Who's the guy in the middle ? ;)
Rod.
Heh, heh. It ain't Cole. But I'd like to consult with my ID advisor. Whaddya think, Clare?

Doc

[Clare]

Heh, heh. It ain't Cole. But I'd like to consult with my ID advisor. Whaddya think, Clare?

Doc


hmmm. Now this is getting tricky. It would help if I knew the approx. dates of each picture. The facial hair on the pic on the right is making it more difficult. One feature that is causing me to still say it's him: the lips.

Anyone know the dates of the pictures?

P.S. Could a reliable person possibly show him the pic and ask him if it's him?
But then again, based on my experience, you can only believe a pool player about 10% of the time. Maybe.

[Weatherman]

hmmm. Now this is getting tricky. It would help if I knew the approx. dates of each picture. The facial hair on the pic on the right is making it more difficult. One feature that is causing me to still say it's him: the lips.

Anyone know the dates of the pictures?

P.S. Could a reliable person possibly show him the pic and ask him if it's him?
But then again, based on my experience, you can only believe a pool player about 10% of the time. Maybe.


Unlike an undisclosed one pocket match (or should I say mismatch) in Louisville..

I'm in with Billy here.. I'm betting it IS Cole. No question.

[Terry Ardeno]

hmmm... I could probably get that:D

1075


C-R,

I been seeing that you're one of them talented, mad-scientist like genius's with what you can do with computers! Congrats sir on your talent.

Over at AZB, they have a fella named Derek Disco who is another super-genius with photo-shop or however he does what he does.

It can now be said that you're 1P.Org's answer to AZB's D-D! I'd like to see you two match up. Each of you can show & tell us all about your best "pic list" and then you guys can offer "good natured" rebuttles of who pic'ed who and when. Questions like "Was the subject who was pictured at the top of his game when he was in fact pic'ed?" "Did you announce ahead of time, before you pic'ed whoever, that you were going to pic them or did you come dressed as a plumber instead?" Lot's of potential here for a spirited competition!

:D

Seriously Cali, good job on all the photo things you've been doing for us here!

[vapros]

"But then again, based on my experience, you can only believe a pool player about 10% of the time. Maybe."

Better watch it, Clare. You may have just touched a whole lot of nerves. We're told that ol' Honest Abe was a Brunswick owner, which explains how he learned to be a politician. Mark Twain had a table, also, and became a writer of fiction.

[wincardona]

hmmm. Now this is getting tricky. It would help if I knew the approx. dates of each picture. The facial hair on the pic on the right is making it more difficult. One feature that is causing me to still say it's him: the lips.

Anyone know the dates of the pictures?

P.S. Could a reliable person possibly show him the pic and ask him if it's him?
But then again, based on my experience, you can only believe a pool player about 10% of the time. Maybe.
Since no one is willing to take $1,000,000 to $1.00 I will make another offer. And this one will be more realistic (not to say my last offer wasn't) I will be willing to wager my $500.00 against a favor (like a go get me a sandwhich type)with the first 5 people that would like to participate. By the way, i'm not saying that I should be put in the top 10% of pool players that tell the truth, but believe me i'm not lying.:confused:

[Terry Ardeno]

Since no one is willing to take $1,000,000 to $1.00 I will make another offer. And this one will be more realistic (not to say my last offer wasn't) I will be willing to wager my $500.00 against a favor (like a go get me a sandwhich type)with the first 5 people that would like to participate. By the way, i'm not saying that I should be put in the top 10% of pool players that tell the truth, but believe me i'm not lying.:confused:


I can shut my eyes and just imagine how it must have looked so many times before.....you laying all that brilliant thinking and analytical powers on some local-yokal, him with his hands in his pockets and a dumb, mouth slightly ajar, vacant look upon his unsuspecting face....:D

Bill, I'll repeat what I've espoused here so often. You're the smartest man in pool. Your confidence in the way you project your thoughts is pretty compelling. You could probably sell a glass of water to a drowning man and make him feel like he got a good deal! :D

I say that as a compliment. No wonder them fellas at Accu-Stats tell you "Now Billy....." :)

[Clare]

Since no one is willing to take $1,000,000 to $1.00 I will make another offer. And this one will be more realistic (not to say my last offer wasn't) I will be willing to wager my $500.00 against a favor (like a go get me a sandwhich type)with the first 5 people that would like to participate. By the way, i'm not saying that I should be put in the top 10% of pool players that tell the truth, but believe me i'm not lying.:confused:

I looked at the pics again and it is definitely him. But if anybody thinks it isn't, you should take Bill up on his bet. Good bet (as long as Billy doesn't ask for anything weird.LOL)

[fred bentivegna]

Since no one is willing to take $1,000,000 to $1.00 I will make another offer. And this one will be more realistic (not to say my last offer wasn't) I will be willing to wager my $500.00 against a favor (like a go get me a sandwhich type)with the first 5 people that would like to participate. By the way, i'm not saying that I should be put in the top 10% of pool players that tell the truth, but believe me i'm not lying.:confused:


It aint him, it aint him, it aint him!!! Bet creep! If im lying, im dying! If his face was artificially swollen up from snake bite or some kind of pill overdose then you may, and I say may, be right. Plus if you and Grady were laying down a spread and I find out (Grady would definitely snitch on you), then all bets are off.

Beard

[gulfportdoc]

Since no one is willing to take $1,000,000 to $1.00 I will make another offer. And this one will be more realistic (not to say my last offer wasn't) I will be willing to wager my $500.00 against a favor (like a go get me a sandwhich type)with the first 5 people that would like to participate. By the way, i'm not saying that I should be put in the top 10% of pool players that tell the truth, but believe me i'm not lying.:confused:
You've got a short memory, Hazelwood. I took your bet way back in post #10. I gave you an out, because I suspected you'd have a heart attack realizing that someone might actually take you up on your bet, which was probably only a figure of speech on your part.:rolleyes: When you quickly wanted to adjust, I knew the bet was off. For the record I wouldn't have held you to the $million, although I would have accepted an iced coffee as a buyout.:D

I think Clare was being generous about the percentage of pool player liars. I think there are only 2% of them who are honest. Naturally I believe you to be in that 2%.:cool:

Doc

[Clare]

Clarification: Bill, could you please clarify your bet for me? You mention "$500" and you mention "first 5 people". Can I safely assume you mean that you will pay out $500 to EACH of the 5 people?

Correction: I did not say that 10% of pool players tell the truth. I said that "pool players tell the truth 10% of the time".


Clare< just likes to keeps things "straight". :)

[wincardona]

You've got a short memory, Hazelwood. I took your bet way back in post #10. I gave you an out, because I suspected you'd have a heart attack realizing that someone might actually take you up on your bet, which was probably only a figure of speech on your part.:rolleyes: When you quickly wanted to adjust, I knew the bet was off. For the record I wouldn't have held you to the $million, although I would have accepted an iced coffee as a buyout.:D

I think Clare was being generous about the percentage of pool player liars. I think there are only 2% of them who are honest. Naturally I believe you to be in that 2%.:cool:

Doc
Thank you for putting me in the 2% field, but in no way are you going to weasel out of our bet of $2,000,000 to $3.00. And I expect cash in Mobile if you're going to be there. If you want to get involved with the $500 bet against a favor i'll be happy to oblige you there as well. :D

[wincardona]

Clarification: Bill, could you please clarify your bet for me? You mention "$500" and you mention "first 5 people". Can I safely assume you mean that you will pay out $500 to EACH of the 5 people?

Correction: I did not say that 10% of pool players tell the truth. I said that "pool players tell the truth 10% of the time".


Clare< just likes to keeps things "straight". :)
Yes Clare I will pay all 5 people $500 if the picture in discussion is not Cole, but I will then have 5 people running errands for me (1 errand) if it is Cole. So far no one has taken me up on the proposal.:mad: And another thing, my proposal falls in the !0% of the time pool players tell the truth.;) I think I got that right?:confused:

[wincardona]

It aint him, it aint him, it aint him!!! Bet creep! If im lying, im dying! If his face was artificially swollen up from snake bite or some kind of pill overdose then you may, and I say may, be right. Plus if you and Grady were laying down a spread and I find out (Grady would definitely snitch on you), then all bets are off.

Beard
Since you are special to me i'm going to lay you $1,000 to a favor that it is Cole, not $500 to a favor. Hows that sound, good I hope. And I expect to get paid the next time we meet, pal.:)
I'm going to call Cole again and have him respond. But we have action, no squirming out.:p

[wincardona]

I can shut my eyes and just imagine how it must have looked so many times before.....you laying all that brilliant thinking and analytical powers on some local-yokal, him with his hands in his pockets and a dumb, mouth slightly ajar, vacant look upon his unsuspecting face....:D

Bill, I'll repeat what I've espoused here so often. You're the smartest man in pool. Your confidence in the way you project your thoughts is pretty compelling. You could probably sell a glass of water to a drowning man and make him feel like he got a good deal! :D

I say that as a compliment. No wonder them fellas at Accu-Stats tell you "Now Billy....." :)
Thank you for the compliment, but i'm not the smartest man in pool, not even close. But I will give you some of the formula to my success. I put more emphasis on how other people feel about a question, that helps me out quite a bit. Take for instance this debate. When The Beard said "it ain't him" I knew I had the nuts.:D

[Clare]

Yes Clare I will pay all 5 people $500 if the picture in discussion is not Cole, but I will then have 5 people running errands for me (1 errand) if it is Cole. So far no one has taken me up on the proposal.:mad: And another thing, my proposal falls in the !0% of the time pool players tell the truth.;) I think I got that right?:confused:

So, then, Billy, if only one person takes you up on this, he/she will get $2500 from you? I think Freddy has taken you up. Maybe Doc, too???:confused:

[Clare]

Thank you for the compliment, but i'm not the smartest man in pool, not even close. But I will give you some of the formula to my success. I put more emphasis on how other people feel about a question, that helps me out quite a bit. Take for instance this debate. When The Beard said "it ain't him" I knew I had the nuts.:D

LOL. :D :p

[Clare]

Yes Clare I will pay all 5 people $500 if the picture in discussion is not Cole, but I will then have 5 people running errands for me (1 errand) if it is Cole. So far no one has taken me up on the proposal.:mad: And another thing, my proposal falls in the !0% of the time pool players tell the truth.;) I think I got that right?:confused:

Since I think the pic is Cole, too, I'm with you on this, Bill. So, then, how about you cover the losses (doubt there will be any), and I'll cover the wins. Whaddya think? :)

[gulfportdoc]

Since you are special to me i'm going to lay you $1,000 to a favor that it is Cole, not $500 to a favor. Hows that sound, good I hope. And I expect to get paid the next time we meet, pal.:)
I'm going to call Cole again and have him respond. But we have action, no squirming out.:p
I KNEW IT! I suspected all along that you already had an ironclad confirmation that it was in fact Cole. There's no way in hell that you'd put up that kind of dough unless you had the lock-down Hungarians.:cool: Gettin' money outta you would be like trying to take a pork chop away from a Bengal tiger.:rolleyes:

Doc

[lll]

I KNEW IT! I suspected all along that you already had an ironclad confirmation that it was in fact Cole. There's no way in hell that you'd put up that kind of dough unless you had the lock-down Hungarians.:cool: Gettin' money outta you would be like trying to take a pork chop away from a Bengal tiger.:rolleyes:

Doc
doc how often have you ever had a proposition bet that wasnt %100 in favor of the propositioner?????
when there might have been some doubt(buyers remorse??) you offered a compromise (were you trying to save face for you or billy???? just askin)
cant scold billy for squeezing the nuts. in fact he should be complented for showing us how its done:)

[gulfportdoc]

doc how often have you ever had a proposition bet that wasnt %100 in favor of the propositioner?????
when there might have been some doubt(buyers remorse??) you offered a compromise (were you trying to save face for you or billy???? just askin)
cant scold billy for squeezing the nuts. in fact he should be complented for showing us how its done:)
My point was that I'd take $1M to $1 on just about anything that might be considered a bet.;) I had initially assumed Cardone was just innocently posturing, but when he continued on, I knew for sure that he had verified his end. It's an old Pittsburgh trick... Even Freddy figured that out, and he's from Chicago.:D

I knew a pool scuff when I lived in L.A. in the late 60's, who was actually a pretty sharp bettor. He went out to watch the L.A. open one year. A very famous golfer (could have been Sam Snead) was faced with a pretty routine 3 foot putt. He was bragging to the crowd, and said "I'll bet all the money in my pocket to a dollar that I make this putt". My friend immediately shoved out a dollar from the crowd. Turns out the guy had like $3K on him! He made the putt, but the crowd had gotten real quiet, and he took about 10 minutes studying it and figuring it. Those 3 foot putts all of a sudden don't look too routine if you're laying 3000 to 1...:eek:

Doc

[wincardona]

I KNEW IT! I suspected all along that you already had an ironclad confirmation that it was in fact Cole. There's no way in hell that you'd put up that kind of dough unless you had the lock-down Hungarians.:cool: Gettin' money outta you would be like trying to take a pork chop away from a Bengal tiger.:rolleyes:

Doc
Doc, firstly, the post quoted on post #92 was not a response to your post, it was a response to The Beards post. Post #85 was the response to your post. Now that that's straight it's confirmed, we have action. I really don't know anything about the Hungarians, but I do know a little about the drop down,silver lined, gold plated, Brazilions.:D


And gettin money out of me is a lot easier than you think, but not here.:p

[wincardona]

So, then, Billy, if only one person takes you up on this, he/she will get $2500 from you? I think Freddy has taken you up. Maybe Doc, too???:confused:
Not exactly, but just this one time I will pay any one person the $2,500, but they must hurry.:)

[wincardona]

My point was that I'd take $1M to $1 on just about anything that might be considered a bet.;) I had initially assumed Cardone was just innocently posturing, but when he continued on, I knew for sure that he had verified his end. It's an old Pittsburgh trick... Even Freddy figured that out, and he's from Chicago.:D

I knew a pool scuff when I lived in L.A. in the late 60's, who was actually a pretty sharp bettor. He went out to watch the L.A. open one year. A very famous golfer (could have been Sam Snead) was faced with a pretty routine 3 foot putt. He was bragging to the crowd, and said "I'll bet all the money in my pocket to a dollar that I make this putt". My friend immediately shoved out a dollar from the crowd. Turns out the guy had like $3K on him! He made the putt, but the crowd had gotten real quiet, and he took about 10 minutes studying it and figuring it. Those 3 foot putts all of a sudden don't look too routine if you're laying 3000 to 1...:eek:

Doc

I varified my end when I initially looked at the picture, I know Cole and was positive it was him. Since then I have talked to Cole, and I got him today to look at the picture and he laughed and said " you got the nuts, of course that's me" But I really didn't need his reassurance, I was positive it was him. Matter of fact, if he would of said it wasn't him I would of bet him.:D

[CaliRed]

Matter of fact, if he would of said it wasn't him I would of bet him.:D

Wow, Now THAT'S Strong!!!!

Your next challenge is to get Cole on these forums to hang out, so we can get to know him.

If you meet any resistance, you can always bring up the fact that Artie B did it, and if Artie B can do it, Cole has no reason not to..... Or is he SCARED?:D

(Note: I don't know if that approach will work, but hey, I don't have the Brazilions or Hungarians slapping around, right now)

[gulfportdoc]

I varified my end when I initially looked at the picture, I know Cole and was positive it was him. Since then I have talked to Cole, and I got him today to look at the picture and he laughed and said " you got the nuts, of course that's me" But I really didn't need his reassurance, I was positive it was him. Matter of fact, if he would of said it wasn't him I would of bet him.:D
Not at 1M to 1 you wouldn't have, or even $2500 to "gofer"...

Doc

[Clare]

"Thanks for your offer, but I'll have to pass. The whole proposition sounds a little fishy." --Clare, Post #54


"I looked at the pics again and it is definitely him." -- Clare, Post #81

:rolleyes:

[Frank Almanza]

So it seems that Billy had some inside information on this matter. So I'm backing out of my bet for the running favors. Inside trading is as bad as wetting the balls.