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  • #16
    dino
    is that you in the avatar??
    your dad and i got to know each other alittle via this site
    and i got to meet him in person at the first tourney at tunica
    i miss him
    nice of you to be posting over here
    larry landsman

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    • #17
      Originally posted by dinoboy1 View Post
      I never knew he played 3 cushion, wow. I know he was at one time the best bank pool player in the world, and another when he was considered the best one-hole player in the world. At the height of his game and glenn rogers game, he would give piggy bank 10-8, which is ridiculous.
      My dad and i went to visit him in hospice, about two weeks before he died. he called my dad and asked us to bring him king crab legs, AND, ribs (the HOT One's), from "Ribs and Bibs". So, my dad bought a case of king crab legs, had me cook some for him, and then we stopped at "Ribs and Bibs", on the way to the hospital, and had a little lunch visit. Probably the worst thing a guy could eat, that's dying and is a diabetic. But he was still very grateful for granting his request!
      Hey Dino, thanks for the post and welcome to the site, I have not see you post before so it's nice to meet you. Although I never met your dad personally, I know that almost everyone (if not everyone) on this site was a big fan of Freddy and misses him a lot.

      Hope you hang out some more and maybe we get to meet at one of our pool events - Chicago about 85 days away!

      PS - I was talking about Gary playing 3 cushion...i don't know if Bugs did or not.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by dinoboy1 View Post
        i wish i could have seen the parica match. What were the match details?
        accu stats might have it..... i dont know what year but it was legends of op and i believe steve won it that year--he beat parica 5 zip in a completely dominating performance......

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        • #19
          http://www.onepocket.org/forum/showthread.php?t=8971


          Originally posted by dinoboy1 View Post
          i wish i could have seen the parica match. What were the match details?
          your dad and billy commentated it. pic of them in the booth somewhere in that thread.....

          Originally posted by poolisboring View Post
          accu stats might have it..... i dont know what year but it was legends of op and i believe steve won it that year--he beat parica 5 zip in a completely dominating performance......
          PIB - used to be available on accustats. the beard and billy thought that cook played nearly perfect one pocket. if i remember correctly, grady was in the booth for a while as well. its a keeper....

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          • #20
            Originally posted by cincy_kid View Post
            a beast indeed....any time I hear that name it also reminds me of Gary. They played on several occasions and to be honest I am not sure who won the majority of the time (maybe someone else can chime in on that).

            Here is an old video (not complete) from a 1993 LA tourney (1p, banks and 9b). Not sure if this video was part of the tourney or just action on the side but here you go - part 1 of 11 hehe:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UARNoccs5-0

            Those pockets sure were huge back then

            Ironically enough, you have 2 of the best bank pool players who ever lived and neither one of them won this particular tournament - it was Mark Tadd, who also won the 9b tourney as well. He almost snapped all 3 off but the cookie man Steve Cook stood in his way and knocked off the 1 hole.
            another bank pool legend took 2nd in the banks behind tadd -- Donny Anderson ......

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            • #21
              Originally posted by poolisboring View Post
              another bank pool legend took 2nd in the banks behind tadd -- Donny Anderson ......
              AKA The Cincinnati Kid

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Miller View Post
                http://www.onepocket.org/forum/showthread.php?t=8971




                your dad and billy commentated it. pic of them in the booth somewhere in that thread.....



                PIB - used to be available on accustats. the beard and billy thought that cook played nearly perfect one pocket. if i remember correctly, grady was in the booth for a while as well. its a keeper....

                Somewhere between 90' and 92", right? I think i do remember that, and have the match where he played Bugs. Thanx

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by cincy_kid View Post
                  Hey Dino, thanks for the post and welcome to the site, I have not see you post before so it's nice to meet you. Although I never met your dad personally, I know that almost everyone (if not everyone) on this site was a big fan of Freddy and misses him a lot.

                  Hope you hang out some more and maybe we get to meet at one of our pool events - Chicago about 85 days away!

                  PS - I was talking about Gary playing 3 cushion...i don't know if Bugs did or not.
                  It's nice to meet you too.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by lll View Post
                    dino
                    is that you in the avatar??
                    your dad and i got to know each other alittle via this site
                    and i got to meet him in person at the first tourney at tunica
                    i miss him
                    nice of you to be posting over here
                    larry landsman
                    Nice to meet you too. Also, yes, that is me in the avatar. Thanks for the warm welcome Larry!

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                    • #25
                      [QUOTE=cincy_kid;198133]a beast indeed....any time I hear that name it also reminds me of Gary. They played on several occasions and to be honest I am not sure who won the majority of the time (maybe someone else can chime in on that).

                      Well Chris, as you know, Gary was my best friend and road partner for many years. I staked Gary, with the exception of a couple of years when I was busy opening Beechmont Billiards. Over the years I staked him to play Bugs 5 times. The first time, in Chicago, Gary knocked off a Bank Tournament there beating Freddy in the finals and just as the tournament ended Bugs showed up. They played 2 sets. Gary won the first set easily and Bugs won the second, just barely (went down to the last ball of the set). We had doubled the bet on the second set so, in money we lost a grand there! Over the next 5 or 6 years Bugs came to Cincinnati to play Gary 4 times. First of those visits they played even full rack banks, Gary won. next time they played a few games of even banks again and Bugs' stakehorse pulled him up & told him to make a one-pocket game. Bugs gave Gary 9-7 and continued to lose. Next 2 times they came to town they played 8-7 one pocket, Gary won.

                      Don't get the idea that I'm disrespecting Bugs! We loved the guy! He was always a gentleman! Never had any kind of even a minor beef with him over the games. It was just a matter of who was "in their prime" at the time! When ever Gary was asked who the best bank pool players were he placed Eddie Taylor as the greatest and Bugs only second to him!

                      Now that I've mentioned four top bank pool players that are no longer with us, do you think they have a little partner bank game going in heaven?

                      Sherm
                      Just more hot air!


                      Sherm

                      Sherm Custom Cues
                      Cincinnati, Ohio

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                      • #26
                        Enjoyed your recap, Sherm. So as far as games, Gary and Bugs broke even in Chicago, whereas Gary won in each of Bugs' 4 visits to Cincinnati. I wish I'd met Spaeth when I lived in Cincinnati in the mid '60s, although I do remember Donnie Anderson tending bar in the lounge off Mergard's poolroom. I didn't know who the top players were, even though I played occasionally at Mergard's, and also in that joint upstairs off the bowling alley west of Peebles Corner.

                        If the best bankers of the day were: Taylor, Spaeth, and Bugs; who were #4 and #5? Were Donnie Anderson and Freddy in that mix?

                        ~Doc

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                        • #27
                          [quote=cuesmith;207150]
                          Originally posted by cincy_kid View Post
                          a beast indeed....any time I hear that name it also reminds me of Gary. They played on several occasions and to be honest I am not sure who won the majority of the time (maybe someone else can chime in on that).

                          Well Chris, as you know, Gary was my best friend and road partner for many years. I staked Gary, with the exception of a couple of years when I was busy opening Beechmont Billiards. Over the years I staked him to play Bugs 5 times. The first time, in Chicago, Gary knocked off a Bank Tournament there beating Freddy in the finals and just as the tournament ended Bugs showed up. They played 2 sets. Gary won the first set easily and Bugs won the second, just barely (went down to the last ball of the set). We had doubled the bet on the second set so, in money we lost a grand there! Over the next 5 or 6 years Bugs came to Cincinnati to play Gary 4 times. First of those visits they played even full rack banks, Gary won. next time they played a few games of even banks again and Bugs' stakehorse pulled him up & told him to make a one-pocket game. Bugs gave Gary 9-7 and continued to lose. Next 2 times they came to town they played 8-7 one pocket, Gary won.

                          Don't get the idea that I'm disrespecting Bugs! We loved the guy! He was always a gentleman! Never had any kind of even a minor beef with him over the games. It was just a matter of who was "in their prime" at the time! When ever Gary was asked who the best bank pool players were he placed Eddie Taylor as the greatest and Bugs only second to him!

                          Now that I've mentioned four top bank pool players that are no longer with us, do you think they have a little partner bank game going in heaven?

                          Sherm
                          Nice recap buddy and yea of course I knew how close you were with Gary and you were his main stakehorse

                          I did not know how he and Bugs came out in their battles though, that's quite interesting! I know Gary was a much better bank pool player than he was at one hole but still...he had such great CB control, I cant imagine someone giving him 9/7...geez...

                          PS - let's get together again someday soon so we can have a little one pocket rematch!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by gulfportdoc View Post
                            Enjoyed your recap, Sherm. So as far as games, Gary and Bugs broke even in Chicago, whereas Gary won in each of Bugs' 4 visits to Cincinnati. I wish I'd met Spaeth when I lived in Cincinnati in the mid '60s, although I do remember Donnie Anderson tending bar in the lounge off Mergard's poolroom. I didn't know who the top players were, even though I played occasionally at Mergard's, and also in that joint upstairs off the bowling alley west of Peebles Corner.

                            If the best bankers of the day were: Taylor, Spaeth, and Bugs; who were #4 and #5? Were Donnie Anderson and Freddy in that mix?

                            ~Doc
                            He was a neat guy Doc... very laid back, easy going and played so damn jam up (seemed to me he was far above the rest in all games but for sure in bank)..I am sure you would have really liked him had you met.

                            I think it would be hard to say who the best bankers were in the day..the answer probably changes on who you ask and what time period you are speaking about. I remember watching Gary and JB play some at Beechmont Billiards..was a great match to sweat (although I don't know how they played or who won, sorry!) I know Gary's dad, Joey Spaeth was a great one hole player. I am told he was better than Gary but I wasn't around back then to meet him or see him play.

                            Sherm? or anyone who knows...was Joey a better one pocket player than Gary and did Gary play better banks that his father?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by cincy_kid View Post
                              He was a neat guy Doc... very laid back, easy going and played so damn jam up (seemed to me he was far above the rest in all games but for sure in bank)..I am sure you would have really liked him had you met.

                              I think it would be hard to say who the best bankers were in the day..the answer probably changes on who you ask and what time period you are speaking about. I remember watching Gary and JB play some at Beechmont Billiards..was a great match to sweat (although I don't know how they played or who won, sorry!) I know Gary's dad, Joey Spaeth was a great one hole player. I am told he was better than Gary but I wasn't around back then to meet him or see him play.

                              Sherm? or anyone who knows...was Joey a better one pocket player than Gary and did Gary play better banks that his father?
                              I gotta admit that I didn't know them when Joey was in his prime (50's through 70's) but as I understand from knowing them and other old timers of that era, Joey was one of the best movers, ever but didn't quite have the firepower that Gary had with his superior banking skills. I've been told that when you played Joey a session, you left feeling like you'd been doing hard labor the whole time. But in Cincinnati back then you also had Donnie Anderson who played Bugs even and it was a toss up. Donnie seldom played one pocket and wasn't a big threat at that. We also had Clem Metz who never played in tournaments but often showed up at them trying to shame the winner to play him. Clem was a real character, who admittedly had used a pistol to get the money a couple of times when he felt he should have been the victor if not for bizarre luck! Clem would give Joey 8-7 playing one hole and had a little the best of it, I've heard. I was out of the loop in Cincinnati from when I went into the Navy in '68 and lived in Miami for 9 years when I got out before returning to Cincy in '81, So I missed a lot of the best action years. I do have the dubious honor of having been a pall bearer at both Joey and Gary's funerals and miss them both like they were close family.

                              Sherm
                              Just more hot air!


                              Sherm

                              Sherm Custom Cues
                              Cincinnati, Ohio

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by mr3cushion View Post
                                I knew VERY well for 50 years, I NEVER saw him even attempt to play one 3 cushion shot! He and I used to run into each other all over the country. He was in DC when I played, 'George the Greek' for BIG money in 3C. Bugs knew He could always get a 'Gapper' when I played! And I always tried to sneak a bet in on Him, without knocking His action!
                                I'm confused Billy, were you referring to Gary or Bugs who you'd never seen playing 3C? Gary actually played pretty good 3C for a pool player but he knew his limitations. He played a lot at my poolroom and loved the game. Had he had the opportunity to play with you on a regular basis I think he could have real threat, because he picked it up pretty well when he did play play with people who knew the game.

                                Sherm
                                Just more hot air!


                                Sherm

                                Sherm Custom Cues
                                Cincinnati, Ohio

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