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  • #76
    Originally posted by Cal
    Someone explain this to us. You make a nice score & the next day you cant play because you dont have a stake horse, can you play with your own money ?????? or when you play with your own ,you cant play at the same level?????
    Just wondering..."Can you explain" this to us as to who and what you are talking about? I'm just curious.If It's me..(John Brumback) why are you after me so bad? Man, I try to get along with everyone.I think you got sidetracked
    here somehow.Not trying to be mean or a smartas- just wondering like I said.

    If It's me (John B.) you were asking...I'm not really sure If I can play better
    on my own $ or somebody elses $.I haven't played on my own hardly ever.For sure not big $.I'll addmit that I don't bet my own except In maybe a small tourny.I usually have people and friends who want to go In with me or just back me.The biggest and best thing that's happened to me In a long time was winning the master of the table at DCC cause that got me free entrys and free rooms for life as long as they keep having the DCC.And now I have Diamond Greg S.backing me In the bankpool ring game every year and I'm also a player rep for Diamond Billiard products.Thanks," John the truth Brumback"
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    • #77
      To answer your question...

      Originally posted by Cal
      Last explanation of this BS, My question didn't pertain to any individual or situation. The question is still why is it that some players play better on someone else dime than on their own. As to Viffer & John B. I could care less whatever their dispute may be ,as to my opinion to any situation or question "I have without question " EARNED my right to voice my opinion on any matter. I have walked the walk and have earned the right to talk the talk if I so choose to.
      ...the reality is, most players, myself included, play better on OP (other peoples). That is just a natural fact. Took me years to admit to it. The only exception I ever saw that played better on his own, was Artie. Not to say that he played badly on OP either. Now a lot of guys, again myself included, well maybe not a lot, can play good on their own $, but that wasnt the question.

      Beard

      At Johnston City Fats once said, "OP is stronger than the Atomic Bomb."
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      • #78
        Originally posted by NH Steve
        I know both Cal and John and they are both GREAT guys. Sometimes things don't come across the way they are intended on the internet -- or interpretations take off in unexpected directions with a life of their own. I believe that's already happened about three times in this one thread alone
        Boy,this has gone sideways a few times,aint It!!?? LOL Sorry to Tony Coleman
        Where the heck did Tony go?? John B.
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        • #79
          Originally posted by Cal
          Last explanation of this BS, My question didn't pertain to any individual or situation. The question is still why is it that some players play better on someone else dime than on their own. As to Viffer & John B. I could care less whatever their dispute may be ,as to my opinion to any situation or question "I have without question " EARNED my right to voice my opinion on any matter. I have walked the walk and have earned the right to talk the talk if I so choose to.
          Cal,

          I am accepting Steve's evaluation, that you and John B. are both "great guy's", However, I am still not sure that anyone ever "earns the right" to intercede in two guys trying (or failing to) to match up. (unless of course they are involved $$$ wise)

          I would also consider it a low blow, to insinuate that someone plays better on stake money than his own...That is usually a given, as I doubt there any many 'real' players on this forum who don't. I also doubt there are many more players, with more time in the tough action pit, than myself...And I feel that gives me right to express MY opinion.

          You are certainly free to voice your opinion, as we all are. But if you re-read your posts, it certainly appears you have it in for John B...Opinions are one thing. Pointed questions involving ones gambling ability, (or lack thereof) are quite another...I think John explained his situation quite well, and bottom line, IMHO, you owe him an apology. (nice guy's do that...jes sayin'...)..

          PS..No harm, no foul, no flame, I prefer getting along, to turning this place into another AZB ...
          Last edited by SJDinPHX; 08-19-2011, 02:18 PM.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Cal
            I cant believe that this was taken so out of context,my question wasn't directed at anyone person ot situation,but merely an observation and a question.
            Fair enough Cal.. If Steve says you're a great guy, then you must be. I trust his judge of character.

            John and Dippy were going on about when they played, and it was mentioned that John made a nice score, it was mentioned that John couldn't play the match in July due to his stakehorse having family issues and it was mentioned that John's not to crazy about the game anymore, due to him having to have played perfect pool to beat Viffer at that spot and due to the fact that Viffer is playing better.

            Then you say this.....

            Originally posted by Cal
            Someone explain this to us. You make a nice score & the next day you cant play because you dont have a stake horse, can you play with your own money ?????? or when you play with your own ,you cant play at the same level?????

            Hopefully you can see why it appears that you're talking about John in a not to favorable light.

            My comments were directed at the trend I've noticed since subscribing to the azb forums.. that there's 50 people that probably can't play a lick of pool, but yet they go around badmouthing any pros or any gamblers that post over there. It's funny in a way, but annoying as hell in another.

            So I've tried to make sure I don't ever do that, and every once in a while I'll bust someone's chops over there to let them know what they're doing, isn't right.

            I"m dropping the whole thing and chalking it up as a misunderstanding. Though there is some good info in the messages that followed yours, so that's a good thing.

            Peace brother!

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Cal
              Last explanation of this BS, My question didn't pertain to any individual or situation. The question is still why is it that some players play better on someone else dime than on their own. As to Viffer & John B. I could care less whatever their dispute may be ,as to my opinion to any situation or question "I have without question " EARNED my right to voice my opinion on any matter. I have walked the walk and have earned the right to talk the talk if I so choose to.
              Sir,I'll be glad to answer your question. It's an easy one too.Pressure!!!
              Another thing about this Is,at least for me.I think I play better when I know that my backer has plenty of $.When I know that, I can play more loose and better.I never did like playing on someone's $ knowing they would be running short If I were to lose.So It's all about taking some pressure off for me.and maybe not having the $
              Hope that helps,Bud.John B. I should add that It could be the player just doesn't have the money.
              Last edited by John Brumback; 08-19-2011, 04:49 PM.
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              • #82
                unfortunately im not someone stakehorses seek out
                but heres my 2 cents anyway
                if you are jew paul (from the stories i read) or dippy you are playing for amounts that dont matter .
                if you lose your lifestyle doesnt change

                when playing for amounts that if you lose you sleep in your car
                carries extra pressure beyond winning or losing


                so even tho assuming you care about the backer(not dumping)
                one level of pressure is removed playing with a backer
                if you lose you are in the same place

                that little bit of less pressure should help you play better

                thats my opinion but what do i know

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by lll
                  unfortunately im not someone stakehorses seek out
                  but heres my 2 cents anyway
                  if you are jew paul (from the stories i read) or dippy you are playing for amounts that dont matter .
                  if you lose your lifestyle doesnt change

                  when playing for amounts that if you lose you sleep in your car
                  carries extra pressure beyond winning or losing


                  so even tho assuming you care about the backer(not dumping)
                  one level of pressure is removed playing with a backer
                  if you lose you are in the same place

                  that little bit of less pressure should help you play better

                  thats my opinion but what do i know
                  I have played with backer's and I have played on my own...If the backer is a close friend, I feel more pressure, than I do playing on my own $$$. This is true, even if the friend just has a piece of my action. I think it is because I try harder, and take less risk on a friends money, and I don't play my normal game.

                  If the backer is ultra wealthy, and a big loss will not really hurt him, the opposite is true, I may play better...Bottom line, I prefer playing my own $$$..Then you can let the shaft out, with no remorse if you screw up...You are on your own..
                  Last edited by SJDinPHX; 08-22-2011, 03:13 PM.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by SJDinPHX
                    Bottom line, I prefer playing my own $$$..Then you can let the shaft out, with no remorse if you screw up...You are on your own..
                    That very same thing is what scares people who cannot or will not bet their own money. Not too many people were ever staked against me but I hated playing guys who weren't betting their own. The same guys who played tight and protected their own cash freewheeled and shot at everything on OP's cash.

                    I don't care who the player is, RA, Efren, or any other top player, if he ain't bettin' his own it means nothing to me what he's done in his illustrious career.

                    If a man can't bet his own he should get a job. If he has a job he should get a higher paying one.

                    Dennis

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Cowboy Dennis
                      If he has a job he should get a higher paying one.

                      Dennis
                      Not a bad idea.. are you hiring?

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Banks
                        Not a bad idea.. are you hiring?
                        Do you know how to operate a weedwhacker? It will be necessary after you have shorn & groomed the lawn to perfection. $30 a week is what I paid last sunday but of course the grass was so high in the backyard that rabbits & groundhogs were making out and you'd never have seen them in the cover provided. $25 would be a normal fee for regular length lawn. Get back to me if interested.

                        Dennis

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Cowboy Dennis
                          $30 a week
                          Sorry, I haven't been playing pool that long, I'll let the neighborhood kids take that one. Unless you offer 401k, fully paid medical, dental and at least 4 weeks off(paid, of course). For $20, I may be able to find you a goat.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Banks
                            For $20, I may be able to find you a goat.
                            For $20 I can get four cheap Detroit hookers to cut the grass and give me a trim.

                            P.S. I had a goat last year but she jumped the fence and got hit by a Miller Lite truck .

                            Dennis

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