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  • Originally posted by gulfportdoc View Post
    This is why "swipe" or "drag" is not possible, unless the CB were trapped between cue tip and cushion, which would be illegal (and pretty useless).
    It's pretty useful for the old CB/OB Frozen Perpendicular to the Rail Push Stroke Spinning the OB Sideways Into the Nearby Corner Pocket shot. Which I think might be a felony.

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    • Originally posted by Patrick Johnson View Post
      1-2 milliseconds (thousandths of a second), depending on tip offset from center, hardness and stroke speed.

      There's pretty much nothing you can do with your stroke to change the contact time, because the soft flesh of the grip hand gives on impact, "decoupling" your hand/arm from the cue during the contact time. This means, for instance, that "accelerating through the ball" doesn't do anything to the ball (though it might help keep your stroke straight and give better speed control).

      pj
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      With some well delivered strokes the cue is in free flight at the time of contact.

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      • Originally posted by petie View Post
        With some well delivered strokes the cue is in free flight at the time of contact.
        I like to imagine that I'm throwing a spear underhand.

        pj
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        • Originally posted by Patrick Johnson View Post
          It's pretty useful for the old CB/OB Frozen Perpendicular to the Rail Push Stroke Spinning the OB Sideways Into the Nearby Corner Pocket shot. Which I think might be a felony.

          pj
          chgo
          Ha! One of the first trick shots I ever saw: Nick's Pool Room and Hat Cleaning Shop, Dormont, PA, 1959.

          ~Doc

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          • Originally posted by straightback View Post
            To conclude, I use differing strokes and grips because they allow me to get to the proper angle, speed and spin. In this way, they are correlated with the results I want, but they do not CAUSE them.

            Next time I'm in court I'll try that defense.

            "Well sure your Honor I rested the gun on a solid rest, took v-e-r-r-r-r-y careful aim, and gently pulled the trigger straight back. But that's not what killed him, it was the bullet what killed him."

            Sorry SB, just saw this and I couldn't help myself.
            "If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague."---unknown

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            • Originally posted by Cary View Post
              Next time I'm in court I'll try that defense.

              "Well sure your Honor I rested the gun on a solid rest, took v-e-r-r-r-r-y careful aim, and gently pulled the trigger straight back. But that's not what killed him, it was the bullet what killed him."

              Sorry SB, just saw this and I couldn't help myself.
              Well, I AM a lawyer and all, Cary!

              Nonetheless, if one bothers to think about it for a minute, I think my observation is spot-on.

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              • Originally posted by Patrick Johnson View Post
                1-2 milliseconds (thousandths of a second), depending on tip offset from center, hardness and stroke speed.

                There's pretty much nothing you can do with your stroke to change the contact time, because the soft flesh of the grip hand gives on impact, "decoupling" your hand/arm from the cue during the contact time. This means, for instance, that "accelerating through the ball" doesn't do anything to the ball (though it might help keep your stroke straight and give better speed control).

                pj
                chgo
                What about jacking up and masse the ball? Does the tip stay on the ball longer?

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                • Originally posted by straightback View Post
                  Well, I AM a lawyer and all, Cary!

                  Nonetheless, if one bothers to think about it for a minute, I think my observation is spot-on.
                  I'm just a plumber & I'll shut up now.
                  "If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague."---unknown

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                    Originally posted by Cary View Post
                    I'm just a plumber & I'll shut up now.
                    lawyers quit to become plumbers,,$$$

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                    • Why is it that Efren's millisecond does so much more than my millisecond?

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                      • Originally posted by petie View Post
                        Why is it that Efren's millisecond does so much more than my millisecond?
                        Petie; I can only assume, when Efren's tip contacts the CB, his tempo, timing and speed are ALL perfectly in sync at that millisecond, is better than yours and MOST players!

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                        • Originally posted by petie View Post
                          Why is it that Efren's millisecond does so much more than my millisecond?
                          He uses a 21 oz cue. Plus, if you're talking about English, he cuts across the ball a lot and spins the devil out of it. Everybody can do it, but his skill really lies in applying the exact amount he needs to get the angle and travel he needs.

                          That, and he uses inside English three times as good as any player in the history of this illustrious game.

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                          • 1-2 milliseconds (thousandths of a second), depending on tip offset from center, hardness and stroke speed.

                            There's pretty much nothing you can do with your stroke to change the contact time, because the soft flesh of the grip hand gives on impact, "decoupling" your hand/arm from the cue during the contact time. This means, for instance, that "accelerating through the ball" doesn't do anything to the ball (though it might help keep your stroke straight and give better speed control).

                            pj
                            chgo
                            backplaying:
                            What about jacking up and masse the ball? Does the tip stay on the ball longer?
                            Maybe, but if so it's caused by the obstruction, not by your stroke.

                            pj
                            chgo

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                            • For those who think a millisecond is not enough time to matter, I would like to pose the case of the double rifle. Double rifles, not double barrel shotguns, have been used for centuries to hunt dangerous game such as Cape Buffalo, Elephant, Lion, etc. The theory is that you have at least 2 sure shots without the need to cycle an action for the second shot with the obvious extra time and risk of a round hanging up in the action. Well, these double rifles go through a tedious process call registering whereby the two barrels are tuned to the cartridge and load that will be fired in them. They must be registered for a single load because the recoil will make the bullet go off the target if it is not registered. How long is the bullet in the barrel? You do the math.

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                              • Originally posted by petie View Post
                                For those who think a millisecond is not enough time to matter, I would like to pose the case of the double rifle. Double rifles, not double barrel shotguns, have been used for centuries to hunt dangerous game such as Cape Buffalo, Elephant, Lion, etc. The theory is that you have at least 2 sure shots without the need to cycle an action for the second shot with the obvious extra time and risk of a round hanging up in the action. Well, these double rifles go through a tedious process call registering whereby the two barrels are tuned to the cartridge and load that will be fired in them. They must be registered for a single load because the recoil will make the bullet go off the target if it is not registered. How long is the bullet in the barrel? You do the math.
                                I agree -- everything is relative, and the significance of cue tip contact variables on an object ball is definitely not an exception to that rule lol.
                                "One Pocket, it's an epidemic and there ain't no cure."
                                -- Strawberry Brooks

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