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  • #16
    The odds are not terrible, you're only laying 2 to 1 the first game or the first set.
    Rod.

    Rodney Stephens.
    (e-mail) rod.stephens0105@att.net(e-mail) #713-973-0503 is now working

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    • #17
      Originally posted by androd View Post
      The odds are not terrible, you're only laying 2 to 1 the first game or the first set.
      So Rod you think laying 2 to 1 on an even bet isn't terrible? It's horrible. K

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      • #18
        Ive never staked anyone (that I remember) and I really have never been staked, I feel more comfortable playing on my own money.

        That being said, I understand your logic Keith but here's the thing.

        If you are backing someone, what makes you think they want to win you money when there's nothing in it for them? Even if they don't do any funny business with their opponent, how hard do you think they are going to fight to win the game? You have to give them something as an incentive to win. It's using their skills, their time and energy, their knowledge to out move or out smart their opponent. Why should that be for free just to benefit you?

        Otherwise, you are going to have to step up yourself and make a game with the opponent which is what I have always opted to do.

        So yea, you are not going to win as much as you could potentially lose but that's why you have to be confident in the person you are backing and the game they have made. You can always say no, but I can't imagine anyone playing to win and not getting any of the loot after they have succeeded.

        (just my 2 cents)

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        • #19
          I was in the pool room the other day and some guy who thinks he's smart started in on betting on players.

          Smart guy: "Yeah, we aren't staking any more players. We are just going to bet on the side. Why lay 3-2 when you can get even money?"

          Me: "Do you guys tip the player"?

          Smart guy: "Nah, that's the whole point. We keep the money."

          Me: "How long until the players realize that the only way they can make money is to dump the rail?"

          Smart guy: "They wouldn't do that, would they?"

          I knew a guy who is quite famous; actually in this Hall of Fame, who was notorious for dumping the rail until they got off the bet, then taking the opponent off after he fattened him up. All these smart guys thought they could just bet on the side. He would let them all bet on him and then lose on purpose, knowing that he could make 5 x the score by doing that. So go ahead and try to just bet on the rail and never let the player make any money. See what happens.
          Last edited by BRLongArm; 05-21-2019, 02:05 PM.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by cincy_kid View Post
            Ive never staked anyone (that I remember) and I really have never been staked, I feel more comfortable playing on my own money.

            That being said, I understand your logic Keith but here's the thing.

            If you are backing someone, what makes you think they want to win you money when there's nothing in it for them? Even if they don't do any funny business with their opponent, how hard do you think they are going to fight to win the game? You have to give them something as an incentive to win. It's using their skills, their time and energy, their knowledge to out move or out smart their opponent. Why should that be for free just to benefit you?

            Otherwise, you are going to have to step up yourself and make a game with the opponent which is what I have always opted to do.

            So yea, you are not going to win as much as you could potentially lose but that's why you have to be confident in the person you are backing and the game they have made. You can always say no, but I can't imagine anyone playing to win and not getting any of the loot after they have succeeded.

            (just my 2 cents)
            Sorry Kid, I don't think you read my post. I said unless you have THE NUTS backing anyone where the game is somewhat even is a bad bet/investment. Im saying that the backing anyone where you are only getting a piece of the winning but you pay all of the losses is a terrible bet. K

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            • #21
              If you are going to be a full time stakehorse then 50% is doable IF you are winning. If you get into the red staking the same person then he has to redeem himself, get you whole again before the 50% split goes into effect again. If its a one time shot then 30% is the norm. HOWEVER, sometimes 30% might force him to something you may not like.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by sappo View Post
                So Rod you think laying 2 to 1 on an even bet isn't terrible? It's horrible. K
                I've only staked someone I liked to help them make a little money, even then I have to think I've a little the best of it.
                Rod.

                Rodney Stephens.
                (e-mail) rod.stephens0105@att.net(e-mail) #713-973-0503 is now working

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