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  • #16
    Originally posted by jerry matchin View Post
    I grew up playing pool in tough parts of LA. I learned to keep my mouth shut and play. However, I often ran into sharking quite a bit. Sometimes sharking works in the opposite direction.......back at you. Earl sharks but I've seen it come back at him in some horrible loses such as his infamous race to 125 against Efren. I think he was ahead 110/90 and lost that match. When he started his downslide, he was as quiet as a church mouse.
    Jerry, if you recall Efren took a break at that point and headed off with this little fellow, and when he came back he was a totally different player and not the down and beaten player, but a very real energized hype up player. That was some good drugs, IMO. Earl was the better straight player!

    I hated that part of their epic battle!

    But, as far as the Ten Commandments of proper conduct, I wrote line 2. with Earl in mind.
    2. as the shooter: I will not open up an unwanted verbal discourse with or about my opponent! Whitey

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    • #17
      you have to live with sharking in all forms of gambling. if you cant you become the sucker.

      and a certain amount of sharking is acceptable but crossing the line gets bad. but if you dont like what your opponent does just quit him that is your right.
      it it tilts you then it works and you become the sucker.

      after all when gambling you are trying to use all your skills to win the opponents money. not just your playing skills as some might want it to be that way. but it isnt that way. that is what regulated tournaments are for.

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      • #18
        on a side note about sharking, it's kinda funny but even though I know my opponents will sometime shark me or try to, I honestly really try not to!

        Like if an opponent is shooting a shot towards his pocket, I get up and move away so I am not in his line of sight.

        In fact, when I am not quick enough to move or I find myself in their vision, I try to be real still and not move because I don't want to even move my little finger and have them miss and think I sharked them, lol..

        while on the other hand, sometimes they are in my vision having a conversation with a buddy and moving their arms all around like I am not even trying to concentrate on a shot...

        sad but true, maybe I am too honest?

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        • #19
          sharking or getting in the mind of your opponent is a part of every competition know to ma. This said if you dont like how some one acts and it bothers you don't play them or learn to deal with it. Learning to deal with distraction is what this game is all about

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          • #20
            We have went up and down the road on this subject many times, and I usually keep quiet.
            This time I am not.
            Sharks, slicks , movers ,are all low lives . !
            They ruin the game for anyone who has any morals, or even a modicum, of self respect and decency.
            Playing against them, and giving them any leeway at all , just propagates the behavior to anyone watching, or just beginning in pool, and spawns another pile of human trash, to deal with.
            Would you want the first thing every new player to learn, is how to shit mickey somebody? Probably you?
            The bottom line to me, is where is the bottom line?

            For all you unsharkable guys , you aren't.
            I have seen some of the greatest players ever, get sharked clear out of their shoes, so just cut the bs.
            The reason you don't get sharked, is because you are corpse killers, you would never dream of playing anyone with a tooth in their head to bite back , because you are too "smart" {chicken shit} for that.
            Lets say any of you, and I, are playing a game for serious money, you play a little better than me.
            So you figure, if you rattle me on a couple of key shots , you are pretty well assured of the win.
            Maybe just a cup move in my line of sight, at just the right moment or something as innocuous as that.
            What you didn't figure on, is that I am sick to death of clowns, I don't care any more what anybody thinks, and I will do whatever it takes to beat you.
            Anything!
            So, while you are on level 1 of sharking , passing a cup, up to having a friend bump me {accidentally} in my shooting wrist.
            i have jumped to level 10.
            My old prison buddy has your wife or kids at the end of a double barrel shotgun in the basement.
            If the score ever gets to you needing to make the game ball , I let you in on the secret.
            Now, before you start pumping out your chests and splathering all over the place about what you would do , 99% of you would do nothing, because you aren't one of the selfish turds that does the other crap.
            Other people matter to you .
            So, what I am trying to say is , when we, the players of this game , allow the scum, to dictate what the rules or lack of rules are , either by smiling and saying that's part of the game , or ignoring it because we aren't affected directly{everyone is , they just don't admit it } or whatever reasons you come up with.
            We are spreading the disease.
            It matters very little to me at this point in my pool life.
            I barely play any more and I am 70 and getting in worse shape every day.
            But ,I remember how much fun this game can be, and I met a lot of great people through pool.
            It is just that 1 in a thousand guy , that makes the game a shit show.
            They almost always end up dead by 35, or in jail for forever , but the damage they do in a short time is ridiculous, and should never be allowed by anyone who cares anything about this game, other than to try to make a quick buck from it, feeding on carrion.
            So, when you wink an eye or turn your head when you see someone pull a cheap move, you just became an accomplice!
            like I said before , where doe's it end?
            Is it a chalk drop perfectly timed, or a bump or aggravation from a "stranger" or something in your drink? a guy at your home?
            They are all possible and more, think about that the next time you "pass".
            Most of us are old and our ass kicking days are over, but I have seen the power of a handfull of good customers who tell the room owner someone is ruining the fun they are paying for.
            At least it's worth a try.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Billy Jackets View Post
              We have went up and down the road on this subject many times, and I usually keep quiet.
              This time I am not.
              Sharks, slicks , movers ,are all low lives . !
              They ruin the game for anyone who has any morals, or even a modicum, of self respect and decency.
              Playing against them, and giving them any leeway at all , just propagates the behavior to anyone watching, or just beginning in pool, and spawns another pile of human trash, to deal with.
              Would you want the first thing every new player to learn, is how to shit mickey somebody? Probably you?
              The bottom line to me, is where is the bottom line?

              For all you unsharkable guys , you aren't.
              I have seen some of the greatest players ever, get sharked clear out of their shoes, so just cut the bs.
              The reason you don't get sharked, is because you are corpse killers, you would never dream of playing anyone with a tooth in their head to bite back , because you are too "smart" {chicken shit} for that.
              Lets say any of you, and I, are playing a game for serious money, you play a little better than me.
              So you figure, if you rattle me on a couple of key shots , you are pretty well assured of the win.
              Maybe just a cup move in my line of sight, at just the right moment or something as innocuous as that.
              What you didn't figure on, is that I am sick to death of clowns, I don't care any more what anybody thinks, and I will do whatever it takes to beat you.
              Anything!
              So, while you are on level 1 of sharking , passing a cup, up to having a friend bump me {accidentally} in my shooting wrist.
              i have jumped to level 10.
              My old prison buddy has your wife or kids at the end of a double barrel shotgun in the basement.
              If the score ever gets to you needing to make the game ball , I let you in on the secret.
              Now, before you start pumping out your chests and splathering all over the place about what you would do , 99% of you would do nothing, because you aren't one of the selfish turds that does the other crap.
              Other people matter to you .
              So, what I am trying to say is , when we, the players of this game , allow the scum, to dictate what the rules or lack of rules are , either by smiling and saying that's part of the game , or ignoring it because we aren't affected directly{everyone is , they just don't admit it } or whatever reasons you come up with.
              We are spreading the disease.
              It matters very little to me at this point in my pool life.
              I barely play any more and I am 70 and getting in worse shape every day.
              But ,I remember how much fun this game can be, and I met a lot of great people through pool.
              It is just that 1 in a thousand guy , that makes the game a shit show.
              They almost always end up dead by 35, or in jail for forever , but the damage they do in a short time is ridiculous, and should never be allowed by anyone who cares anything about this game, other than to try to make a quick buck from it, feeding on carrion.
              So, when you wink an eye or turn your head when you see someone pull a cheap move, you just became an accomplice!
              like I said before , where doe's it end?
              Is it a chalk drop perfectly timed, or a bump or aggravation from a "stranger" or something in your drink? a guy at your home?
              They are all possible and more, think about that the next time you "pass".
              Most of us are old and our ass kicking days are over, but I have seen the power of a handfull of good customers who tell the room owner someone is ruining the fun they are paying for.
              At least it's worth a try.
              All I can say is WOW !
              Rod.

              Rodney Stephens.
              (e-mail) rod.stephens0105@att.net(e-mail) #713-973-0503 is now working

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              • #22
                wow as well.

                i can see why you went to prison. your mind leads you to places out of the realm of reason.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Billy Jackets View Post
                  We have went up and down the road on this subject many times, and I usually keep quiet.
                  This time I am not.
                  Sharks, slicks , movers ,are all low lives . !
                  They ruin the game for anyone who has any morals, or even a modicum, of self respect and decency.
                  Playing against them, and giving them any leeway at all , just propagates the behavior to anyone watching, or just beginning in pool, and spawns another pile of human trash, to deal with.
                  Would you want the first thing every new player to learn, is how to shit mickey somebody? Probably you?
                  The bottom line to me, is where is the bottom line?

                  For all you unsharkable guys , you aren't.
                  I have seen some of the greatest players ever, get sharked clear out of their shoes, so just cut the bs.
                  The reason you don't get sharked, is because you are corpse killers, you would never dream of playing anyone with a tooth in their head to bite back , because you are too "smart" {chicken shit} for that.
                  Lets say any of you, and I, are playing a game for serious money, you play a little better than me.
                  So you figure, if you rattle me on a couple of key shots , you are pretty well assured of the win.
                  Maybe just a cup move in my line of sight, at just the right moment or something as innocuous as that.
                  What you didn't figure on, is that I am sick to death of clowns, I don't care any more what anybody thinks, and I will do whatever it takes to beat you.
                  Anything!
                  So, while you are on level 1 of sharking , passing a cup, up to having a friend bump me {accidentally} in my shooting wrist.
                  i have jumped to level 10.
                  My old prison buddy has your wife or kids at the end of a double barrel shotgun in the basement.
                  If the score ever gets to you needing to make the game ball , I let you in on the secret.
                  Now, before you start pumping out your chests and splathering all over the place about what you would do , 99% of you would do nothing, because you aren't one of the selfish turds that does the other crap.
                  Other people matter to you .
                  So, what I am trying to say is , when we, the players of this game , allow the scum, to dictate what the rules or lack of rules are , either by smiling and saying that's part of the game , or ignoring it because we aren't affected directly{everyone is , they just don't admit it } or whatever reasons you come up with.
                  We are spreading the disease.
                  It matters very little to me at this point in my pool life.
                  I barely play any more and I am 70 and getting in worse shape every day.
                  But ,I remember how much fun this game can be, and I met a lot of great people through pool.
                  It is just that 1 in a thousand guy , that makes the game a shit show.
                  They almost always end up dead by 35, or in jail for forever , but the damage they do in a short time is ridiculous, and should never be allowed by anyone who cares anything about this game, other than to try to make a quick buck from it, feeding on carrion.
                  So, when you wink an eye or turn your head when you see someone pull a cheap move, you just became an accomplice!
                  like I said before , where doe's it end?
                  Is it a chalk drop perfectly timed, or a bump or aggravation from a "stranger" or something in your drink? a guy at your home?
                  They are all possible and more, think about that the next time you "pass".
                  Most of us are old and our ass kicking days are over, but I have seen the power of a handfull of good customers who tell the room owner someone is ruining the fun they are paying for.
                  At least it's worth a try.
                  I gota like this guy! Whitey

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                  • #24
                    I have never been in prison or even been in trouble with the law. I am trying to show that when you allow some jerk to get away with infantile moves , you never know what might be spawned from it.
                    Like I said , all these moves are 150 years old, and they are a pitiful joke to anyone but a dolt, I just don't understand, why intelligent people allow buffoons to dictate the rules.

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                    • #25
                      Nice read....with my fathers best friend Otto Graham HOF, Cleveland Browns, my Olympic skating background, (dad played for the Blackhawks farm team WWII). The men that my dad had as best friends, and those that coached me, and my experiences of the pool rooms/characters since the 60's....our perspective/feels have a similar ring.

                      Because of the sports figure men my dad surrounded me by in youth with fairplay always in play.... the ''others'' that roamed the pool rooms ''stuck out''.
                      This is EXACTLY why ''in my prime'' I never went to the Rack in Detroit in the late 80's early 90's. Too thick with thieves for me, I would NOT trust anyone, therefore I had no interest in this arena. I just enjoy a good game.
                      Bill Meacham
                      WBT
                      www.worldbilliardtour.com
                      no link....

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