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    For a long time I've read the forum threads here and over at azbilliards and I've seen a lot of threads with opinions of who was really the best all time one pocket players. I know the game of one pocket as well as any living human, it's the best pool game in the world, so I'm going to give my opinion. Starting from the 60's I've seen them all play, I'm not including guys whose heyday was before that time because they weren't in their primes anymore when I saw them play. I'm not saying who was the one and only best player, but who was the best according to category.

    For aggressive, offensive, runout one pocket, I believe the two all time best are Ronnie Allen and Efren Reyes. And speaking of Efren, the part of his game that everybody always talks and raves about is his creativity, well I disagree. Yes he has that, but I think the strongest part of his game that has most of all given him his success, is his unsurpassed cueball control and his ball running. Scott Frost and Chohan are the up and comer's in this category.

    For careful, smart, defensive minded one pocket, Artie Bodendorfer was the best I've ever seen. For those of you on here who never saw him play and wonder if what you hear on here is B.S. or biased, as far as his playing, it's the truth, he did play that good. As far as some other things he's said, that might be a different story that I'll talk about another time. After Artie, next best at this style of one pocket were guys like Varner, Hopkins, and Fusco.

    Last of all are the best all time one pocket players who played a 'centered' game, somewhere in the middle area between very offensive minded and very defensive minded. In this category I put Grady and Bugs as the best, closely followed by guys like Steve Cook, Cliff, and Cooney. Up and comer's in this category are young players like Gabe Owen, Ochoa, Nevel, etc.

    OldSchool
    Last edited by OldSchool; 09-22-2008, 05:13 PM.

  • #2
    Originally posted by OldSchool
    For a long time I've read the forum threads here and over at azbilliards and I've seen a lot of threads with opinions of who was really the best all time one pocket players. I know the game of one pocket as well as any living human, it's the best pool game in the world, so I'm going to give my opinion. Starting from the 60's I've seen them all play, I'm not including guys whose heyday was before that time because they weren't in their primes anymore when I saw them play. I'm not saying who was the one and only best player, but who was the best according to category.

    For aggressive, offensive, runout one pocket, I believe the two all time best are Ronnie Allen and Efren Reyes. And speaking of Efren, the part of his game that everybody always talks and raves about is his creativity, well I disagree. Yes he has that, but I think the strongest part of his game that has most of all given him his success, is his unsurpassed cueball control and his ball running. Scott Frost and Chohan are the up and comer's in this category.

    For careful, smart, defensive minded one pocket, Artie Bodendorfer was the best I've ever seen. For those of you on here who never saw him play and wonder if what you hear on here is B.S. or biased, as far as his playing, it's the truth, he did play that good. As far as some other things he's said, that might be a different story that I'll talk about another time. After Artie, next best at this style of one pocket were guys like Varner, Hopkins, and Fusco.

    Last of all are the best all time one pocket players who played a 'centered' game, somewhere in the middle area between very offensive minded and very defensive minded. In this category I put Grady and Bugs as the best, closely followed by guys like Steve Cook, Cliff, and Cooney. Up and comer's in this category are young players like Gabe Owen, Ochoa, Nevel, etc.

    OldSchool
    That's a pretty good run down. I wonder, did you ever see 'Clem' play? He is the other player (besides Artie) active during the time frame you are talking about, that always had a reputation on tightly controling the game...
    "One Pocket, it's an epidemic and there ain't no cure."
    -- Strawberry Brooks

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    • #3
      Originally posted by NH Steve
      That's a pretty good run down. I wonder, did you ever see 'Clem' play? He is the other player (besides Artie) active during the time frame you are talking about, that always had a reputation on tightly controling the game...

      Steve, There's a few other players that could have, or should have been on my list, but I didn't see them play enough to be able to make an informed judgment of their game. Clem would be one of those. Ed Kelly would be another, because the times that I happened to see him play it was always 9ball rather than One Pocket.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by OldSchool
        Steve, There's a few other players that could have, or should have been on my list, but I didn't see them play enough to be able to make an informed judgment of their game. Clem would be one of those. Ed Kelly would be another, because the times that I happened to see him play it was always 9ball rather than One Pocket.
        Just got off the phone after a 2 hr. session with Kelly. We had not seen each other for thirty some years. His recall is much better than mine. ( but then he's just a kid of 70) He may be posting here soon, and like you (old school) he will prefer to remain anonymous. I hope he will bring some credibility to these discussions. (thats a joke guy's)
        Not saying anybody is wrong, or fibbing, but I will respect most (sic) of his observations re; what happened, and when. As guy's in our age bracket are prone to do, we spent a lot of time discussing our various surgeries.

        Dick

        PS Billy, some of his recollections vary from yours, AND mine. And thats all good. The odds of ANY pool player recalling, with great accuracy what really went down, 40 yrs. ago are very slim. Thanks for putting me in touch with him.

        Titanic Dick (pat. pend.)
        Last edited by SJDinPHX; 09-26-2008, 12:55 AM.

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        • #5
          Tommy the Greek

          Originally posted by Dick Mc Morran
          Just got off the phone after a 2 hr. session with Kelly. We had not seen each other for thirty some years. His recall is much better than mine. He will be posting here shortly, and like you (old school) he will prefer to remain anonymous. I hope he will bring some credibility to these discussions.
          Not saying anybody is wrong, or fibbing, but I will respect most (sic) of his observations re; what happened, and when.

          Dick

          PS Billy, some of his recollections vary from yours. And thats all good. The odds of ANY pool player recalling what really went down, are very slim.

          Titanic Dick (pat. pend.)

          Dick, did you know Tommy the Greek. He was a legend around Chicago in the 20s and 30s. I ran into him in the late 60s at 4th and Main in LA. I heard he played Eddie Taylor to a draw for $100 a game in LA when he was 69yrs old.

          the Beard
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          • #6
            Originally posted by fred bentivegna
            Dick, did you know Tommy the Greek. He was a legend around Chicago in the 20s and 30s. I ran into him in the late 60s at 4th and Main in LA. I heard he played Eddie Taylor to a draw for $100 a game in LA when he was 69yrs old.

            the Beard
            No Fred, don't recall that name. Wonder how old Eddie was when they played ?

            Dick

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            • #7
              Taylor was still playing good

              Originally posted by Dick Mc Morran
              No Fred, don't recall that name. Wonder how old Eddie was when they played ?

              Dick
              The year was either 69 or 70 at 4th and Main. I had just left there.
              Ronnie knew him. He called Ronnie, Junior. Tommy said "Junior" probably was as good as anybody, ever.

              the Beard
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              • #8
                Originally posted by fred bentivegna
                The year was either 69 or 70 at 4th and Main. I had just left there.
                Ronnie knew him. He called Ronnie, Junior. Tommy said "Junior" probably was as good as anybody, ever.

                the Beard
                "Junior" was RA's nickname all throughout his early years in LA.
                Last edited by SJDinPHX; 09-26-2008, 02:33 AM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by OldSchool
                  For a long time I've read the forum threads here and over at azbilliards and I've seen a lot of threads with opinions of who was really the best all time one pocket players. I know the game of one pocket as well as any living human, it's the best pool game in the world, so I'm going to give my opinion. Starting from the 60's I've seen them all play, I'm not including guys whose heyday was before that time because they weren't in their primes anymore when I saw them play. I'm not saying who was the one and only best player, but who was the best according to category.

                  For aggressive, offensive, runout one pocket, I believe the two all time best are Ronnie Allen and Efren Reyes. And speaking of Efren, the part of his game that everybody always talks and raves about is his creativity, well I disagree. Yes he has that, but I think the strongest part of his game that has most of all given him his success, is his unsurpassed cueball control and his ball running. Scott Frost and Chohan are the up and comer's in this category.

                  For careful, smart, defensive minded one pocket, Artie Bodendorfer was the best I've ever seen. For those of you on here who never saw him play and wonder if what you hear on here is B.S. or biased, as far as his playing, it's the truth, he did play that good. As far as some other things he's said, that might be a different story that I'll talk about another time. After Artie, next best at this style of one pocket were guys like Varner, Hopkins, and Fusco.

                  Last of all are the best all time one pocket players who played a 'centered' game, somewhere in the middle area between very offensive minded and very defensive minded. In this category I put Grady and Bugs as the best, closely followed by guys like Steve Cook, Cliff, and Cooney. Up and comer's in this category are young players like Gabe Owen, Ochoa, Nevel, etc.

                  OldSchool
                  Some very good observations Old School. I certainly concur with your take on Efren. What would your opinion be, on who would have had the best of it, among the guy's like RA, Efren,(and other smart but offensive minded player's)
                  versus full time squeezers like Artie, Fusco, etc. ? All during their respective prime's of course. You sure seem to favor Chicago style 1P.

                  Dick

                  PS Are you SURE you're not Artie with a hot new stenographer/ghost writer ?
                  Last edited by SJDinPHX; 09-26-2008, 05:16 AM.

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                  • #10
                    All time opinion challenge

                    Everybody has got their own opinion in this matter. But what I would like to know is if anybody has really played all these top guys more than me? Talking about, Ronnie, Efren, Grady, Artie, and Bugs. The least guy I played with was Ronnie, because we only played 5 times. Efren I played almost daily for a year. Grady and I played about 15 to 20 times all over the country. Artie and I hung out in the same poolroom and played regularly for 20 years. I played Bugs even more than Artie because I used to go to Bug's poolroom and play him on the South Side -- yeah, the place where no good player ever went to play him besides me and Mexican Johnny. Cardone and Grady would probably come next closest because they too played them all, but Grady only played Artie twice and Bugs 4 or 5 times. Ronnie and Artie never played, and Artie also never played Efren. I think Bugs only played Efren once.
                    That being said, and that drum now beat to death, I will choose to reserve my opinions because I would have to insert too many provisos. Plus, whatever I would say, my pal Cardone would choose to do battle with me over. I prefer to have my differences in opinion with Cardone occur when we are in the booth together doing an accu-stats taping. Pat Fleming has me under contract to argue with Cardone only when he has the camera on.

                    the Beard

                    PS my picks would be based on circumstances.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Dick Mc Morran
                      You sure seem to favor Chicago style 1P.

                      Dick

                      PS Are you SURE you're not Artie with a hot new stenographer/ghost writer ?

                      Dick, you're confused. I have no idea why you would say I favor Chicago style, I never said anything like that in any of my posts. I think the past champions were best served by playing the style that suited their own personal temperament and pool skills.

                      As for me being Artie, when you see the post that I'll be making soon, you'll sure as hell know that I'm not Artie.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by OldSchool
                        Dick, you're confused. I have no idea why you would say I favor Chicago style, I never said anything like that in any of my posts. I think the past champions were best served by playing the style that suited their own personal temperament and pool skills.

                        As for me being Artie, when you see the post that I'll be making soon, you'll sure as hell know that I'm not Artie.
                        Old School, You sound like a knowledgeable, guy, with a lot to contribute.
                        Why do you feel it is necessary to play the "cloak and dagger" game ? Do you owe an unpayable debt, or does someone has it in for you ? It's all fun here. Either 'fess up or stop teasing. What do you have to gain ? IMO
                        Dick
                        Last edited by SJDinPHX; 09-29-2008, 05:23 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Dick Mc Morran
                          Old School, You sound like a knowledgeable, fun guy, with a lot to contribute.
                          Why do you feel it is necessary to play the "cloak and dagger" game ? Do you owe an unpayable debt, or does someone has it in for you ? It's all fun here. Either 'fess up or stop teasing. What do you have to gain ? IMO
                          Dick
                          One way thinking will never change and that is howe most people are programed and keep thinking. Change youre thinking. The greatest one pocket player. Everyone picks their favorite player and the player the like and have seen play and think the are the best.And the even pick the player with the most dominating personality and attitude. Some people pick Efren some people pick Ronnie and nobody picked Bugs because of the people who are talking and picking. And if we had as many black people answering on the sight as white people the would pick Bugs just like your picks. And the would even say Ronnie and Bugs played 3 times and Bugs one twice so does that make Bugs a better player then Ronnie. It all depends on the peoples favorites its all in the beholders eyes. And everyone would have a different favorite and different player. THe truth is it can not be proven. Its all information and hir say. And people will stay with their pick. Just like some fans the will only pick their team from their city no matter what the game or sport. People will pick their player from their state no matter what. Do you see the picture. And you will see what I am telling you when the same people will respond to what I wrote and the will stay loyale no matter what. And some people will pick people the never even seen play. The repeat what other people have said or herd. And these players would shoot at eveything. The wouldnt pass up a shot if the could lock up the game the would still shoot. The figure the will make the shot and run eight and out. And Bugs was as creative and aggressive on offense as any player in life. And back then you were not allowed to shoot jump shots and macey shoots. So again the rules changed the game and Bugs and Ronnie didnt shoot jump shoots like the players today. And if the would have been in their prime today. They would have jumped over a ball and banked the ball and ran 8 and out. TIME changes everything. And even the equipment thats why you cant compair players from 35 years ago to today. If you didnt see the 3 best players play how would you no who to pick. Or even compare the players to the other players if you never seen them play. Its all a guess and your pick. And people will go broke trying to pick winners. When Efren played the one pocket field was very slim and the great old time one pocket players were going down hill. And the field Efren had to play were Cliff Shannon Parica and a young Scott Frost and maybe a few more. But thats not much of a field. And even today their are only 5 or 10 great one pocket players. But 35 years ago the had a great and big one pocket field the greatest ever in the world. The had Edie Taylor Bugs Ronnie Allen Bosten Shorty Marvine Henderson Jersey Red Grady Mathues Cinn Clem Harold Worst Edie Kelly Nick Varner Jimmy Fousco Pittsburg Billy Steve Cook Corn Bread Red Cannon Ball Blackie Squarll Chriss Mageean Mike Carillo Richie Florence Mexican Johnny Det Whity Baby Face Eral Hisler Steve Mizrack Buddy Hall Mike Siegal And many more. THIS IS THE GREATEST FIELD OFF ONE POCKET PLAYERS IN LIFE. I guess some one out their will chalange this too. But its ok Because some people always want to take the other side no matter what thats what makes gambling. ThIS IS A MONSTER FIELD. Now we will brack it down. And her are some of the keys. 1 Are the gitting backed. Well thats a edge for the player gitting backed. Because the fear factor of loosing their own money will change their game and style. And the will be less aggressive with their own money.So betting their own money makes a difference wheather you belive it or not. THe difference is you can win but you can not lose any money. Its a free shoot and players shoot acordingly.Everyone is brave when the can only win and cant lose.And If the get backed the want to bet as high as the can 50 million would be ok. But if the had to bet 10 thousand of their own money playing another champion it would never happen. And if the had to bet their own money you would see very few of these players playing each other. And some would never play. Everything is a factor and comes into play. And see if these champions would give out spots of 9 to 8 or 9 to 7 with their own money. You would have to waite a life time. THe would rather run to the race track or to a Casino then to bet their money on themselves against each other. The Backers make these games possiable or the would never happen. And some great players wont bet their own money on a tough pool game no matter what. And all of this will lower a player credability when you compair all these great players. And if the make a big score their gone because the dont want to bet their winnings and their own money. And the will look for a new backer the next day. And give you a story what the did with the money. And remember gitting stacked and betting their own money makes a very big difference. And it will show the true caracter of the player and his heart. When you pick out the greatest player you have to weigh up eveything. And Boston Shorty won more one pocket tournaments in Johnson City. Then any player. And betting their own money will change their aggresive style and show their true game and speed the play. Not getting backed and shooting at the moon because their all geared up and cant lose a penny. And if the had to shoot a real tough shoot and if the miss the shoot and lose their own 5 thousand dollares the will not shoot at the shoot and play safe. And her is number 2 If the play 3 out of 5 any player can win that I mentioned. Any player but if the play 5 or 6 games ahead the best player will win and the player who desirves it. And the very agressive one pocket style will change and get weeker.And being all geared up will change and even their attitude playing 5 or 6 games ahead. And its not a indurance contest or a poke and hope contest either and if the players are 30 or 35 years old the will have no problem playing 10 or 15 houers. And the more consistant players will keep their foucus and concentration longer. And not just shoot at give up and qutie playing. We no who the aggresive shooters are and we no who the more conservative players are. And to find out who the best player is the would have to play 5 or 6 games ahead with each other a round robin and bet 5 thousand dollares of their own money. And then you would have a good Idea who the best player is. Not just a few people saying the same thing over and over and their is no autentesade and it is also incomplete. And some of these great players never even played each other so howe can you say who is the best. You can only give your byas opinion with no cedability. And playing each other in a tournament does not prove anything. You have to have some real seasons and not some sociable 20 dollares a game because you are friends And you win that doesnt prove anything. And next time you watch a great player watch what he shoots in a tournament and what he shoots when he bets 5 or 10 thousand dollares in a freeze out session and watch everything change including his temper ment. I have watched pitts burg Billy play in tournaments and he is one player that playes way better betting his own money then when he playes in a tournament. When he playes in a tournament his style is way different then when he gambles. Even his attitude and personality changes. Billy is a good money player but not a good tournament player. And some one will disagree with me on this. But its the truth and I dont think Billy will disagree with me and if he does. He has his pool rights and that is only my opinion not someone elses. And Billy is a great salesman to. I hope this isnt to long. Emagine if I was with Moses and the 10 commanments. But I wrote this so people can see a different way to look at who is the best player and not just pick their player because the no him and he is from their town. Or the love his Bs and stories but that does help and it will get you votes. By the time you read this sunday will be gone and you dont get to spend this day over again.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Artie Bodendorfer
                            One way thinking will never change and that is howe most people are programed and keep thinking. Change youre thinking. The greatest one pocket player. Everyone picks their favorite player and the player the like and have seen play and think the are the best.And the even pick the player with the most dominating personality and attitude. Some people pick Efren some people pick Ronnie and nobody picked Bugs because of the people who are talking and picking. And if we had as many black people answering on the sight as white people the would pick Bugs just like your picks. And the would even say Ronnie and Bugs played 3 times and Bugs one twice so does that make Bugs a better player then Ronnie. It all depends on the peoples favorites its all in the beholders eyes. And everyone would have a different favorite and different player. THe truth is it can not be proven. Its all information and hir say. And people will stay with their pick. Just like some fans the will only pick their team from their city no matter what the game or sport. People will pick their player from their state no matter what. Do you see the picture. And you will see what I am telling you when the same people will respond to what I wrote and the will stay loyale no matter what. And some people will pick people the never even seen play. The repeat what other people have said or herd. And these players would shoot at eveything. The wouldnt pass up a shot if the could lock up the game the would still shoot. The figure the will make the shot and run eight and out. And Bugs was as creative and aggressive on offense as any player in life. And back then you were not allowed to shoot jump shots and macey shoots. So again the rules changed the game and Bugs and Ronnie didnt shoot jump shoots like the players today. And if the would have been in their prime today. They would have jumped over a ball and banked the ball and ran 8 and out. TIME changes everything. And even the equipment thats why you cant compair players from 35 years ago to today. If you didnt see the 3 best players play how would you no who to pick. Or even compare the players to the other players if you never seen them play. Its all a guess and your pick. And people will go broke trying to pick winners. When Efren played the one pocket field was very slim and the great old time one pocket players were going down hill. And the field Efren had to play were Cliff Shannon Parica and a young Scott Frost and maybe a few more. But thats not much of a field. And even today their are only 5 or 10 great one pocket players. But 35 years ago the had a great and big one pocket field the greatest ever in the world. The had Edie Taylor Bugs Ronnie Allen Bosten Shorty Marvine Henderson Jersey Red Grady Mathues Cinn Clem Harold Worst Edie Kelly Nick Varner Jimmy Fousco Pittsburg Billy Steve Cook Corn Bread Red Cannon Ball Blackie Squarll Chriss Mageean Mike Carillo Richie Florence Mexican Johnny Det Whity Baby Face Eral Hisler Steve Mizrack Buddy Hall Mike Siegal And many more. THIS IS THE GREATEST FIELD OFF ONE POCKET PLAYERS IN LIFE. I guess some one out their will chalange this too. But its ok Because some people always want to take the other side no matter what thats what makes gambling. ThIS IS A MONSTER FIELD. Now we will brack it down. And her are some of the keys. 1 Are the gitting backed. Well thats a edge for the player gitting backed. Because the fear factor of loosing their own money will change their game and style. And the will be less aggressive with their own money.So betting their own money makes a difference wheather you belive it or not. THe difference is you can win but you can not lose any money. Its a free shoot and players shoot acordingly.Everyone is brave when the can only win and cant lose.And If the get backed the want to bet as high as the can 50 million would be ok. But if the had to bet 10 thousand of their own money playing another champion it would never happen. And if the had to bet their own money you would see very few of these players playing each other. And some would never play. Everything is a factor and comes into play. And see if these champions would give out spots of 9 to 8 or 9 to 7 with their own money. You would have to waite a life time. THe would rather run to the race track or to a Casino then to bet their money on themselves against each other. The Backers make these games possiable or the would never happen. And some great players wont bet their own money on a tough pool game no matter what. And all of this will lower a player credability when you compair all these great players. And if the make a big score their gone because the dont want to bet their winnings and their own money. And the will look for a new backer the next day. And give you a story what the did with the money. And remember gitting stacked and betting their own money makes a very big difference. And it will show the true caracter of the player and his heart. When you pick out the greatest player you have to weigh up eveything. And Boston Shorty won more one pocket tournaments in Johnson City. Then any player. And betting their own money will change their aggresive style and show their true game and speed the play. Not getting backed and shooting at the moon because their all geared up and cant lose a penny. And if the had to shoot a real tough shoot and if the miss the shoot and lose their own 5 thousand dollares the will not shoot at the shoot and play safe. And her is number 2 If the play 3 out of 5 any player can win that I mentioned. Any player but if the play 5 or 6 games ahead the best player will win and the player who desirves it. And the very agressive one pocket style will change and get weeker.And being all geared up will change and even their attitude playing 5 or 6 games ahead. And its not a indurance contest or a poke and hope contest either and if the players are 30 or 35 years old the will have no problem playing 10 or 15 houers. And the more consistant players will keep their foucus and concentration longer. And not just shoot at give up and qutie playing. We no who the aggresive shooters are and we no who the more conservative players are. And to find out who the best player is the would have to play 5 or 6 games ahead with each other a round robin and bet 5 thousand dollares of their own money. And then you would have a good Idea who the best player is. Not just a few people saying the same thing over and over and their is no autentesade and it is also incomplete. And some of these great players never even played each other so howe can you say who is the best. You can only give your byas opinion with no cedability. And playing each other in a tournament does not prove anything. You have to have some real seasons and not some sociable 20 dollares a game because you are friends And you win that doesnt prove anything. And next time you watch a great player watch what he shoots in a tournament and what he shoots when he bets 5 or 10 thousand dollares in a freeze out session and watch everything change including his temper ment. I have watched pitts burg Billy play in tournaments and he is one player that playes way better betting his own money then when he playes in a tournament. When he playes in a tournament his style is way different then when he gambles. Even his attitude and personality changes. Billy is a good money player but not a good tournament player. And some one will disagree with me on this. But its the truth and I dont think Billy will disagree with me and if he does. He has his pool rights and that is only my opinion not someone elses. And Billy is a great salesman to. I hope this isnt to long. Emagine if I was with Moses and the 10 commanments. But I wrote this so people can see a different way to look at who is the best player and not just pick their player because the no him and he is from their town. Or the love his Bs and stories but that does help and it will get you votes. By the time you read this sunday will be gone and you dont get to spend this day over again.
                            Now you're really pissing me off Artie. I did not find ONE THING in your post that I didn't agree with. How are we going to have arguments if you are going to start making sensible post's ? You sure have learned a lot in the short time you've been contributing here. (that's a joke Booth)
                            I have even learned to read your posts without getting a headache. So does that mean I'm losing my f###ing mind.(another joke)
                            Seriously, I enjoyed Steve's interview with you, and now feel different about you than I used to. If I was born in the middle of WWII, and had to grow up in downtown Chicago (which was another war zone, in those days) I may not have made it to my present station in life. (which is OK, but poor) I bet my own cash, against all the good player's.... way too many times

                            Titanic Dick (patent pending)

                            PS Hope Artie takes this post in the spirit it was intended, if not WTF do I care.
                            Last edited by SJDinPHX; 09-29-2008, 02:17 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dick Mc Morran
                              Now you're really pissing me off Artie. I did not find ONE THING in your post that I didn't agree with. How are we going to have arguments if you are going to start making sensible post's ? You sure have learned a lot in the short time you've been contributing here. (that's a joke Booth)
                              I have even learned to read your posts without getting a headache. So does that mean I'm losing my f###ing mind.(another joke)
                              Seriously, I enjoyed Steve's interview with you, and now feel different about you than I used to. If I was born in the middle of WWII, and had to grow up in downtown Chicago (which was another war zone, in those days) I may not have made it to my present station in life. (which is OK, but poor) I bet my own cash, against all the good player's.... way too many times

                              Titanic Dick (patent pending)

                              PS Hope Artie takes this post in the spirit it was intended, if not WTF do I care.
                              My kids use to say the same thing when the were 15 years old now the are older and the tell me gee dad its amazing how much you learned. If you grew up in world war 2 we would have been on opposite sides. Thank God hitler didnt win or the whole world would have lost. And I would have never played pool or been in Las Vegas. Ans the world wouldnt have to worry about terrorists because the real terrorists would have controled the world. So you see it does matter who wins. It changes the whole world. Put people dont realy think about what the world would have been if he realy won. Maybe the world wouldnt have even been her any more.

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