Roy Steffensen
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I posted this over at AZBilliards during the DCC, but would like to get yours opinion on this.
This is two posts, the last one is more clear about what happened:
DCC sucks bigtime right now
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Well, I am here at the Derby City Classic 2009, have been travelling for 24 hours from Norway just to get here to play my favourit game of One Pocket in the worlds biggest One Pocket tournament, and then I do the most stupid mistake ever!
"I'm a loser baby, so why don't you kill me" is the tune that keeps playing in my head right now...
I played the One Pocket tournament this morning, and the luck of the draw made me play John Brumback, the 2009 Bank Pool Champion.
I started out good on my break, and made him do two fouls, and at one time he needed 10 balls and I only like 4, I think. I had an open table, but dogged it, and he ended up winning the first rack.
The next rack lasted very long, with many safeties, but John grabbed that rack too, so now I was down 2-0.
I kept on doing the stuff JoeyA teached me last night, and I played smarter than before, but aggressive when I finally got a chance, and I took the next rack to make it 2-1 to John.
In the next rack I found a four ball combination in the pack and hit it with solid draw, and got a wide open table. I ran 8 and out on him, with position to keep on running 10-11-12 balls.
I racked the balls, and when I had finished racking we noticed that I owed a ball, and should have ran 9 balls.
Tournament director made me lose the game on forfeit, and then lose the match 3-1 instead of 2-2 and my break.
I have done many tournaments myself, and would probably have made the same call myself. There is only one person to blame here, and that's me...
But it still sucks, especially since I have used my buyback and is now out of the one-pocket...
Post 2, answer to the following question: Who ended the game prematurely?" Did you start raking balls and pulling balls from pockets or did John get out of the chair (essentially conceding the rack) and move to begin the next game?
Not a stupid question at all. It was actually a part of the discussion we had with the referee/tournament director.
After I pocketed the last ball I walked back and checked for sure that I had made 8 balls, then I moved the balls over the lights (which we use to keep score).
He got out of the chair, walked back to the end of the table, looked at the 8 balls I had made and walked back to his chair. At the same time I raked the balls and started racking.
When I finished racking we both noticed the coin near my pocket, at the same time.
Because neither of us didn't realize the foul before the racking was done, I asked the referee to let us play the last game one more time.
The referee's reply was that if John agreed to play it again, we could do that. Of course John didn't want to do that, and I am of the opinion that the referee should never even have given that option to John.
This is two posts, the last one is more clear about what happened:
DCC sucks bigtime right now
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Well, I am here at the Derby City Classic 2009, have been travelling for 24 hours from Norway just to get here to play my favourit game of One Pocket in the worlds biggest One Pocket tournament, and then I do the most stupid mistake ever!
"I'm a loser baby, so why don't you kill me" is the tune that keeps playing in my head right now...
I played the One Pocket tournament this morning, and the luck of the draw made me play John Brumback, the 2009 Bank Pool Champion.
I started out good on my break, and made him do two fouls, and at one time he needed 10 balls and I only like 4, I think. I had an open table, but dogged it, and he ended up winning the first rack.
The next rack lasted very long, with many safeties, but John grabbed that rack too, so now I was down 2-0.
I kept on doing the stuff JoeyA teached me last night, and I played smarter than before, but aggressive when I finally got a chance, and I took the next rack to make it 2-1 to John.
In the next rack I found a four ball combination in the pack and hit it with solid draw, and got a wide open table. I ran 8 and out on him, with position to keep on running 10-11-12 balls.
I racked the balls, and when I had finished racking we noticed that I owed a ball, and should have ran 9 balls.
Tournament director made me lose the game on forfeit, and then lose the match 3-1 instead of 2-2 and my break.
I have done many tournaments myself, and would probably have made the same call myself. There is only one person to blame here, and that's me...
But it still sucks, especially since I have used my buyback and is now out of the one-pocket...
Post 2, answer to the following question: Who ended the game prematurely?" Did you start raking balls and pulling balls from pockets or did John get out of the chair (essentially conceding the rack) and move to begin the next game?
Not a stupid question at all. It was actually a part of the discussion we had with the referee/tournament director.
After I pocketed the last ball I walked back and checked for sure that I had made 8 balls, then I moved the balls over the lights (which we use to keep score).
He got out of the chair, walked back to the end of the table, looked at the 8 balls I had made and walked back to his chair. At the same time I raked the balls and started racking.
When I finished racking we both noticed the coin near my pocket, at the same time.
Because neither of us didn't realize the foul before the racking was done, I asked the referee to let us play the last game one more time.
The referee's reply was that if John agreed to play it again, we could do that. Of course John didn't want to do that, and I am of the opinion that the referee should never even have given that option to John.