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  • Howz about some shooting for a change?

    We get a lot of great move-and-safe problems around here, but sometimes you have to shoot. And getting out when you get the chance to shoot depends a lot on your pattern skills.

    So, here's a simple problem to start with. Maybe we can get more complicated ones in the future.

    You need them all. How are you going to get them into pocket A?

    Skin

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  • #2
    Originally posted by Skin
    We get a lot of great move-and-safe problems around here, but sometimes you have to shoot. And getting out when you get the chance to shoot depends a lot on your pattern skills.

    So, here's a simple problem to start with. Maybe we can get more complicated ones in the future.

    You need them all. How are you going to get them into pocket A?

    Skin

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    My first shot would be to make the 9 and attempt position on the 6. I am surprised I remember how to WEI, it's been a long time.

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    • #3
      me also. draw back for the six. if i can't execute/get behind it, bank it last after the two.

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      • #4
        I would have to go 9=2=1 and try to get a shot to roll in the one with a natural ball two rails to the six
        "Born Into This"

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        • #5
          duplicate post - sorry

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          • #6
            I would try something like this: 9/1/6/2.

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            • #7
              Running balls in one pocket is simple but you need to know the priority of shot selection.

              First, play position on any balls blocking other balls.

              Second, try to get position on balls that are on the rail. It may take several attempts.

              Lastly play position for balls out in the open.

              In the example shown:

              Shoot in the nine and play position for the two ball. Make the two ball and play position on the one ball leaving the proper angle so you can go to the end rail for position on the six ball.

              Bill Stroud

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              • #8
                Originally posted by 12squared
                I would try something like this: 9/1/6/2.

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                Dave; Exactly how a billiard player would run out here, use the natural angle starting with the 9, 2 rails to 6 and so on! 100% correct.

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                • #9
                  I'm with RBL on this...9,6,1,2 (or 2,1) Shape on the 6, drawing off the 9, looks very doable and natural to me...You cannot go wrong...If the 6 hooks you on the 1, (your escape valve, if you miss shape on the 6)..that would mean you are straight in on the 6.......Ray Charles could then easily get the 1 and 2.

                  PS...If you take the 1 ball, for your next ball after the 9...you have just shot in your safety valve, and you had better get good on the 6, off the 1 then, or the odds of NOT getting all 4 balls, have increased substantially...JMHO..
                  Last edited by SJDinPHX; 08-25-2011, 02:17 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 12squared
                    I would try something like this: 9/1/6/2.


                    Dave
                    First of all you would have to shoot the 1 ball stretched out over the table to reach it. Second, if you hit the bottom of the 6 with the cueball after you shoot the 1 ball your inning will be over. That's why getting on the 6 at the first opportunity is important, if you attempt it and fail you still have the 1 to shoot. Keeping balls between the cueball & pocket is always a good strategy.

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                    • #11
                      If you were to pose this question to any of the high one pocket ball runners (Scott, Alex, etc) it would be unaminous (shape on the 6 off the 9)...I admit intermediate players may lack the touch to execute it comfortably...only you know your capability... maybe it would be best for you too cinch all the balls you can get.

                      PS..Now I'm confused....Are we playing billiards, staight pool, or one pocket ???
                      Last edited by SJDinPHX; 08-23-2011, 10:55 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by bstroud
                        Running balls in one pocket is simple but you need to know the priority of shot selection.

                        First, play position on any balls blocking other balls.

                        Second, try to get position on balls that are on the rail. It may take several attempts.

                        Lastly play position for balls out in the open.

                        In the example shown:

                        Shoot in the nine and play position for the two ball. Make the two ball and play position on the one ball leaving the proper angle so you can go to the end rail for position on the six ball.

                        Bill Stroud
                        Bill,

                        That is an excellent 14.1 strategy but it does not apply to one-pocket.

                        Dennis

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Skin
                          We get a lot of great move-and-safe problems around here, but sometimes you have to shoot. And getting out when you get the chance to shoot depends a lot on your pattern skills.

                          So, here's a simple problem to start with. Maybe we can get more complicated ones in the future.

                          You need them all. How are you going to get them into pocket A?

                          Skin

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                          • #14
                            Absolutely!

                            Originally posted by bstroud
                            Running balls in one pocket is simple but you need to know the priority of shot selection.

                            First, play position on any balls blocking other balls.

                            Second, try to get position on balls that are on the rail. It may take several attempts.

                            Lastly play position for balls out in the open.

                            In the example shown:

                            Shoot in the nine and play position for the two ball. Make the two ball and play position on the one ball leaving the proper angle so you can go to the end rail for position on the six ball.

                            Bill Stroud
                            Sorry, I put up the wrong goddamned sequence. Its 9,2,1,6. Everyone should have noted that I agreed with B Stroud and his selection of 9,2,1,6!

                            If a New York straight pool player went for the 6 ball first, the East Coast Straight Pool society would make him eat California pizza for a year. With the pineapple topping.
                            The above reasoning is rock solid. Especially for one pocket.
                            1.First, play position on any balls blocking other balls. You need to open up the lanes to shoot the other balls in.
                            2.Second, try to get position on balls that are on the rail.
                            Why? Very simple answer. YOU CAN ONLY GET ON ONE SIDE OF A BALL FOR POSITION WHEN IT IS ON THE RAIL. (If you get straight in on a ball that is on the rail you can only stop and hope you have another shot, draw it back and scratch in the pocket, or follow forward and scratch in the pocket you shot the ball in.
                            3.Lastly play position for balls out in the open. Why? Because unlike the above 2nd reason, if the ball is out in the open, as is the 1 ball here, you can use all 3 sides of the shot to get position.

                            Plus, in this situation if you choose the 9,2,1 path you are a Hungarian lock to get at least 3 balls and get to the hill and with zero pressure to do it. If you bump funny into the six you might only end up with one.

                            Beard
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                            • #15
                              It depends on how far the 9 is off the rail. To me the c/b is on a collision path with the 6. In that case I'd choose 9-2-1-6.

                              Rod

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