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    This layout is from W.O.P. and it's a good measure of a person's level of play. You have pocket 'A' and need five balls. Do you shoot the 9 and draw over for shapes on the 10/12 or shoot the safer 6 and still get the same shapes. Or maybe send the 1 ball into the 10/12 and put the cueball behind the 13/14. What would you do?

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  • #2
    Probably the 6 ball, maybe the 10 ball depending what the carom on the 12 ball looked like.
    Rod.
    Rod.

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    • #3
      Dennis, i like shooting the 6 ball 1st. I would use center ball and pocket speed. I think the cueball will float to the side rail at the 3rd diamond and from there you can run the rest of the balls. A big plus for this shot is at pocket speed if you miss the shot the 6 ball should be real close to your pocket if not hanging and the 10 & 12 balls will hide it from your opponent. I thinks hes in big trouble either way.
      Trust me, Im a vetenarian!! Keith

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      • #4
        The 9 looks free with natural position to get out.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Cowboy Dennis
          This layout is from W.O.P. and it's a good measure of a person's level of play. You have pocket 'A' and need five balls. Do you shoot the 9 and draw over for shapes on the 10/12 or shoot the safer 6 and still get the same shapes. Or maybe send the 1 ball into the 10/12 and put the cueball behind the 13/14. What would you do?

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          Hey Dennis. I'm definitely shooting at my pocket here. I'm pretty sure I shoot the nine because I can hit it with a stroke and put almost all my effort into potting the ball. Then I would just go from there according to where the cueball stops. To me it's almost as safe as the six, since my cueball is so weak I could roll at the six and still sell out the 13 or something.
          "Born Into This"

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          • #6
            Full pocket, full hit

            ...nine ball. No guarantee of a safety with the 6 if you hit it bad, and the 6 cut is a much harder shot to make. No guarantee of another shot if you make the 6. You might land badly behind the 1 ball and be snookered on the good ones.

            If I was really shakey that night I might roll bunt at the 10.

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            • #7
              I believe the two best shots from this position are the 9 ball and the 10 ball and in no exact order. The 1 ball isn't an option for me because the 10 ball offers a built in safety if you should choose it, the 9 ball offers you the best chance of getting out if your a good shot maker. Most top players would choose the 9 ball unless they are feeling a little weak at the time as Freddie mentioned, and then the 10 ball would be a better option. As far as the 6 ball is concerned it's a little too tough of a shot and there's no guarantee of a solid safety if missed. If the 6 ball was an easier shot I would definitely consider it, but not from the positioned referenced.

              By the way if the 1 ball wasn't there and didn't represent a possible interfering ball, or a ball you could sell out than the 6 ball would be a much more appealing option.

              Billy I.
              Last edited by wincardona; 08-25-2011, 02:27 PM.

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              • #8
                i must confess i posted early and deleted my posts
                i picked the 9,10,12,15, 6
                my thinking was like freddy said the angle to the pocket made a "bigger "pocket and the shape on the 10 or 12 was easy

                then i got to (over)thinking
                dennis said this was a test of your speed
                stroud said get rid of the balls by the rail
                rod liked the 6

                so i copped out and deleted my preference for the 9

                but im going to stick to it
                especially since freddy likes it

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                • #9
                  My first shot would also be the 6. Miss it and you probably don't sell out the table.

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                  • #10
                    The 9 ball no question.

                    In this situation you just block out your opponent and shoot away.
                    Position is easy and you should feel no pressure on the shot.

                    This is the situation you practice for. A chance to win the game without your opponent ever getting back to the table. That is what you must focus on. Not the shot. Winning.

                    Bill Stroud

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                    • #11
                      A lot of the selection in these problems is about which shot you're personally most comfortable with. The 6 ball is a shot I handle with ease, make it or not I'll put the CB below the 1 ball. The 9 ball is a shot that when I want to move the CB, more than a few inches to the left I'm in danger of missing. If I shot the 9 ball I'd play shape on the 15 ball to be sure I didn't miss. Rolling the 10 ball looks like automatic position and safety off the 12 ball. I think everyone should play to their strengths, ergo many of us should have different opinions. I believe knowing your own game is different than what level you play.
                      So there.
                      Rod
                      P.S. Probably knowing your own limitations enables you to play at a higher level.
                      Rod.

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                      • #12
                        I shoot the nine too. It's an easier shot for me with less consequence if missed.

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                        • #13
                          In a close and important game I'm shooting at the six because lag speed is what's needed here and you'll have to be very unlucky not to have a follow up shot. If you miss and leave it near the hole there is protection for it plus his banking lanes are not open.

                          The nine ball if very tempting but you better feel good about shooting at it because their will be a fair amount of speed involved. If you miss pocketing the ball it will be flying around the table and you might not be safe even if you place the cue ball where you intend to.

                          So the difference is shooting a soft, well under controlled shot, or hitting one with a fair amount of distance with a lot more power. Like I said the nine ball looks easy until you realize the game is on the line with it.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bstroud
                            This is the situation you practice for. A chance to win the game without your opponent ever getting back to the table. That is what you must focus on. Not the shot. Winning.
                            My game and confidence level in my game (chicken/egg) jumped to peak potential when I started asking myself "What if I make this shot?" instead of "What if I miss this shot?" That mindset allowed me to play my best more often.

                            About the shot here...I kinda like them all and I believe I have shot them all in very similar type situations.

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                            • #15
                              I shoot the 9 all day long in this spot. It gets position almost 100% of the time onto multiple balls and gives me a much better shot at making 5.
                              It's better to burn out than fade away...

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