cannon vs magician 2012 dcc #1

[Frank Almanza]

There is no way on a Diamond table that the qb is going to follow those lines.

I drew the lines hastly. I believe it has a good chance if you came off the first rail near the third diamond and spin the cue ball to come out near the corner pocket. Even on a diamond table. I will try it the first chance I get to a Diamond table.

 

[ace]

14 ball, draw cue over behind 9.

If you are knocking your own ball away when there are other balls to hit....kinda makes me wonder which side you're on

 

[lll]

I think Ace is on the right idea, except that I don't like the spot where he plans to park the cb. There is a possible 13-9 combination from there, and also a 12-15-9 combo. My priority would be to roll on the 5 ball and stop there, and to do whatever is necessary to get there. True, it would not move any balls to my side of the table, but I'm pretty certain I would like my next shot better than the one I am looking at.

My second choice would be to kick safe off the head rail, trying not to let him shoot the 9. There are no cross-corner banks there right now, and the 9 ball is the name of the game for now. Taking a scratch here is okay.

vapros gets a cookie
here was efrens shot

 

[lll]

the 10 ball hit the side pocket tittie and went down table at a straighter angle
heres how he left shannon

 

[lll]

id like to get a discussion not only what would you do here but as a philosophy
in this case the 9 ball is obviously a big threat
but if you can manage a ball on your side and leave him buried in the stack is it always a good shot choice even though yu leave his threat???you guys that play for money and have played for years
give alittle up now

If the 5 (or 1) is next to the side pocket-that looks doable-dangerous, but doable.

3 railing off that ball toward the 9 is tempting, but looks like the cb will go right at the 9ball. If the 9ball goes down-then it turned out real nice.

As a beginner, I don't see much that I like here.

I would try to soft bank the 5/1? toward the middle, and attempt to leave the cb on bottom rail 1/2 diamond from the corner, to leave a back cut combo on the 9ball.

Still an easy kick to re-position Efrens 14 near the top rail.

[SIZE="3"]Basically-I don't know what to do.:confused[/SIZE]:

3railkick
first of all i highly recommend billys dvd on one pocket
which you can get on freddys site
http://bankingwiththebeard.com/?p=294
he will give you a methodical progression to go thru after the break
frank showed one option to look for
coming off aball to do the same thing is another option
if you buy his dvd you will have a better idea what to do
please dont be afraid/intimitated to say what you would do or ask questions
thats what the site is for
to teach and help

 

[Island Drive]

the 10 ball hit the side pocket tittie and went down table at a straighter angle
heres how he left shannon
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I'm shooting the 13/8 combo from here.

 

[lll]

View attachment 6706 I like this if the three is not in the way.

3railkick
this shot comes up alot
often off the ball that rises by the side pocket
you bank it into the stack moving balls tp your pocket and get behind his ball near his pocket

 

[Cowboy Dennis]

I'm shooting the 13/8 combo from here.

Well, at least you're shooting at the right end of the table this time. You would have the other pocket though:sorry. It's now Daulton's shot.

 

[Cowboy Dennis]

vapros gets a cookie
here was efrens shot
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Larry,

You mislabeled Effie's pocket in this pic, sowing confusion amongst some here.

 

[lll]

ok here sthe corrected version
thanks for pointing that out

 

[lll]

Larry,

You mislabeled Effie's pocket in this pic, sowing confusion amongst some here.

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i should put this disclaimer out

ALL POSTS AFTER 8PM might not be accurate......... ......:sorry..

 

[lll]

still i do want to emphasize its not always what would you do in this particular thread but to teach an approach to similar situations and understand WHY

 

[backplaying]

I would now take a foul kicking to leave the cueball around efrens pocket behind the 14.

 

[vapros]

I would now take a foul kicking to leave the cueball around efrens pocket behind the 14.

You might want to think about that a minute, before getting into a kicking contest with Efren. You would probably find yourself behind the 9 ball - quick.

 

[wincardona]

Reyes executed the shot perfectly leaving Shannon in a very tough spot, Shannon really doesn't have a good option from where he is other than taking an intentional in one of two ways. The first way which to me is the weaker of the two ways would be to nudge the 5 ball and move the 11 ball very softly keeping the 5 ball in front of the cue ball. This shot could work out ok for Shannon but it doesn't have to, Reyes is the best with these little finesse shots which he will probably have one as a return option. The second intentional would be imo a better one especially if executed well. That would be to kick to the top rail and then to the side rail and hope to drop behind the 14 ball, not an easy shot but a very productive one if you can pull it off.

Dr. Bill