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  • Buddy vs. Cliff, 2001 DCC

    Buddy has just made a straight-back, and has left himself this layout. The announcers believe that the 5-ball can be made straight in. What's the best shot here; and what did Buddy do? ~Doc

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  • #2
    Maybe a shot like this....lol
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    The more I play, The Luckier I get

    Walter Kelley
    Ace High Billiards @ http://poolcueandcase.com

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    • #3
      Buddy can tell if the 5 ball goes, and he would shoot it only if he can get shape on the stripe on the short rail. Otherwise, I think he shoots Ace's shot, or passes that up to cut the ball farthest to the right, so he can go back up to the head rail with the cueball.
      If it ain't funny, it ain't much.

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      • #4
        I definitely like Ace's combination, as long as it's not a natural scratch in the corner...that said...

        ...because I don't believe the cueball is going to take the path that Ace suggests, i.e. hitting the 15 dead center...I believe it will deflect off the combinated balls to the outside of that 15 ball, hopefully clipping it and deflecting over to the long rail.

        - Ghost
        Last edited by One Pocket Ghost; 12-02-2012, 02:18 AM.
        jrhendy: Ghost does come up with shots that others don't see.

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        • #5
          I think I'm banking the 15 ball 3 rails and caroming into the 10-6 with some draw.

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          • #6
            I like soft drawing off the 8ball opening up the balls on my side of the table. The cue ball should hit the outside of either the 14ball or the 13ball and then float to the side rail.

            Dr. Bill

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            • #7
              I would shoot the 11 ball over toward the stripe nearest my hole and bringing whitey back over by Cliffs side pocket, just keeping things simple but very effective although the angle might be a little off for this shot.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Fast Lenny View Post
                I would shoot the 11 ball over toward the stripe nearest my hole and bringing whitey back over by Cliffs side pocket, just keeping things simple but very effective although the angle might be a little off for this shot.
                This is what i'd shoot here too. I may use a little inside from the looks of it, and i'd really try to get him right on that rail. I'd want the 11 on the side rail ideally.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by vapros View Post
                  Buddy can tell if the 5 ball goes, and he would shoot it only if he can get shape on the stripe on the short rail. Otherwise, I think he shoots Ace's shot, or passes that up to cut the ball farthest to the right, so he can go back up to the head rail with the cueball.
                  Originally posted by Fast Lenny View Post
                  I would shoot the 11 ball over toward the stripe nearest my hole and bringing whitey back over by Cliffs side pocket, just keeping things simple but very effective although the angle might be a little off for this shot.
                  Originally posted by wincardona View Post
                  I like soft drawing off the 8ball opening up the balls on my side of the table. The cue ball should hit the outside of either the 14ball or the 13ball and then float to the side rail.

                  Dr. Bill
                  i agree with vapros about the 5 ball.buddy wont shoot it just to get one
                  although a stop shot might leave him a bank on the 7?? into the stripe by his pocket cue ball following to cliffs side rail and behind the stack

                  alot to be said for simple (best shot(for you) is the one you know you can execute)

                  for me i like the draw off the 8
                  its an investment for the future and not too difficult to execute

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                  • #10
                    id have to be at the table to say yay or nay for me on aces shot
                    to get the stripe on cliffs side to go past the side pocket as diagrammed you would have to hit fairly firmly
                    the balls would have to lined up right so the caroms would work as ace depicted
                    also to make a 3 ball combo with the amount of distance between the balls is no gimmee
                    if it doesnt go i think with the cue ball in close proximity to the balls around buddy pocket(ie on or near the short rail) it could leave cliff options to counter the move

                    the other shots
                    except for shooting the 5
                    leave the stack in the way
                    i like that

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by gulfportdoc View Post
                      Buddy has just made a straight-back, and has left himself this layout. The announcers believe that the 5-ball can be made straight in. What's the best shot here; and what did Buddy do? ~Doc

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                      The combo on the 9 ball with a stun draw and park whitey 2 diamonds up on Cliffs side.
                      Bill Meacham
                      WBT
                      www.worldbilliardtour.com
                      no link....

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by philwelch View Post
                        I think I'm banking the 15 ball 3 rails and caroming into the 10-6 with some draw.
                        I like your shot except with high instead of draw.

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                        • #13
                          Well, y'all had some great ideas! I like several of the suggestions. As it happens, Billy I. gets closest to the cookie (a birthday cookie). Buddy studied the table for almost 5 minutes. He then fired in the combination on the 5 ball, hitting the 8 ball first:

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                          The balls spread open nicely toward his hole, but surprisingly, he didn't have a viable follow-up shot!

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                          He moved some balls to his hole, and played a safety. They went back and forth. Cliff ultimately left Buddy a shot. Buddy proceeded to run out, and Cliff conceded... ~Doc

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by gulfportdoc View Post
                            Well, y'all had some great ideas! I like several of the suggestions. As it happens, Billy I. gets closest to the cookie (a birthday cookie). Buddy studied the table for almost 5 minutes. He then fired in the combination on the 5 ball, hitting the 8 ball first:

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                            The balls spread open nicely toward his hole, but surprisingly, he didn't have a viable follow-up shot!

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                            He moved some balls to his hole, and played a safety. They went back and forth. Cliff ultimately left Buddy a shot. Buddy proceeded to run out, and Cliff conceded... ~Doc
                            For Buddy's next shot I like playing the 10ball into the 15ball opening up balls around his pocket. The cue ball should go one rail towards the side pocket. From that position his opponent (Cliff) will be in deep stuff.

                            Dr. Bill

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                            • #15
                              In the final pic, it appears whitey Never touched the 14, the two balls below the 14 (7 & 6) also never got moved.
                              Bill Meacham
                              WBT
                              www.worldbilliardtour.com
                              no link....

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