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  • #16
    Even after all the comments, I am still breaking up the 1 & 2 ball, by hitting the 1 with bottom right and try to leave the CB behind the 15 ball.
    I thought about the 2 rail on the 8 but was drawn off of it as I don't want him to have any shot that might move ball towards his pocket.-Smitty

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    • #17
      I like Doc's shot if it lays right. You can lag 2 rails to your pocket and slide whitie up behind the 9. He might have a similar shot in return but you stymied him for now.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Tom Wirth View Post
        Doc, the shot on the seven must be hit fairly softly, not hard, if the shot is to be effective. If enough of the seven can be seen then that is the correct shot. With a softer hit with inside English the seven ball can be held up nicely and the cue ball floats down like a dream come true behind those two balls. A hard hit won't work because the English doesn't have time to grab the seven and hold it up enough to find the pocket. ... Tom

        Yeah, the angle and speed are to what I'm referring. To my eye, if hit dead center, the 7 ball looks like it would roll into the 13. But hit dead center, it would be difficult to roll the CB behind the 12-15, unless the shooter could use left english.

        In order to roll the CB behind the 12-15 the shooter would have to hit the 7 left of center, which would cause a kiss at slow speeds. Hit with high karate or a stun stroke the CB would hesitate for a spit second, then roll behind the 12-15. But then the 7 would be turned loose.

        Each guy's feel for speed, and perspective of the angles on these types of WWYD layouts dictates which shot he'd recommend.

        To me the 4 ball bank is not possible. If hit straight it'll contact the 12-15. If cut a little to the right it'll clip the 7.

        Another shot that Grady liked to shoot, but which Parica might not, is a "blast-em" shot using the 14 into the 12. That might work out hunky-dory if the CB can be floated down towards the corner pocket.

        ~Doc

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        • #19
          Originally posted by gulfportdoc View Post

          Yeah, the angle and speed are to what I'm referring. To my eye, if hit dead center, the 7 ball looks like it would roll into the 13. But hit dead center, it would be difficult to roll the CB behind the 12-15, unless the shooter could use left english.

          In order to roll the CB behind the 12-15 the shooter would have to hit the 7 left of center, which would cause a kiss at slow speeds. Hit with high karate or a stun stroke the CB would hesitate for a spit second, then roll behind the 12-15. But then the 7 would be turned loose.

          Each guy's feel for speed, and perspective of the angles on these types of WWYD layouts dictates which shot he'd recommend.

          To me the 4 ball bank is not possible. If hit straight it'll contact the 12-15. If cut a little to the right it'll clip the 7.

          Another shot that Grady liked to shoot, but which Parica might not, is a "blast-em" shot using the 14 into the 12. That might work out hunky-dory if the CB can be floated down towards the corner pocket.

          ~Doc
          Doc, As you can see the 7 is slightly off the side rail which give a little leeway in hitting just to the left of center which will shorten the shot somewhat. The soft draw helps keep the cue ball from running forward too fast and into the path of the 7 as it returns off the rail. After the 7 has cleared the area the cue ball will slowly drift down the rail.

          The angle on these wwyds sometimes makes it difficult to be certain about the viability of shots of this nature but in theory this shot should work.

          I don't see the "blast" shot as a good choice here because the 12 and 15 look to lay awkward in relation to the cue ball. As the shooter you have very little working for you at this time. A clearing action only allows your opponent to put you in continuous trouble. That is why hacker was somewhat interested in opening up the two balls on his side of the table.

          Your statement; Each guy's feel for speed, and perspective of the angles on these types of WWYD layouts dictates which shot he'd recommend. is absolutely correct. That is why that practice shot I described is a great shot to know. These types of banks are common in One Pocket and they also provide a second method to shoot what looks to be a normal straight back but now the cue ball can be manipulated more ways. Just my take on it. I will be interested in what Jose does here.

          Tom

          "Controlled Aggression" trwirth369@gmail.com

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          • #20
            well jose looked it over and shot the bank
            left himself in good shape...
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            • #21
              7 ball seems like a natural choice for a strong banker......

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              • #22
                Hello, Good call Rob.

                "Controlled Aggression" trwirth369@gmail.com

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by piggybank04 View Post
                  7 ball seems like a natural choice for a strong banker......
                  In the only DVD I own of Parica playing Bugs, Parica puts on a banking exhibition for the Bankpool master so I'd say he was a "strong" banker.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by lll View Post
                    well jose looked it over and shot the bank
                    left himself in good shape...
                    Well he obviously had the angle for the cross corner on the 7. Great shot from a great player!

                    That setting looks familiar-- like it was from one of Grady's events; or Roanoke or World's.

                    ~Doc

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                    • #25
                      It is the Roanoke event. I have the DVDs, so I declined to comment on what I "thought" Jose would do.

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