Doc,gulfportdoc said:I wish I had the DVD of Brumback vs. Pagulayan from this year's DCC. John annihilated Alex 3-0. In one of the last shots of the match, John had a straight back on the 8 ball, that I was certain couldn't be made. He made it. I told him after the match I'd give him $20 if he told me how he made it, but he said he didn't know HOW he made it!
If someone has it, perhaps they'd "Greenshot" it for us...
It was something like this: John made it in pocket "A". ~Doc
Doc said:I wish I had the DVD of Brumback vs. Pagulayan from this year's DCC. John annihilated Alex 3-0. In one of the last shots of the match, John had a straight back on the 8 ball, that I was certain couldn't be made. He made it. I told him after the match I'd give him $20 if he told me how he made it, but he said he didn't know HOW he made it!
If someone has it, perhaps they'd "Greenshot" it for us...
It was something like this: John made it in pocket "A". ~Doc
I remember one of the first things that blew me away watching Banks played at a high level for the first time (at DCC, the first time I went) were all those impossible looking near-kiss duck-the-cue-ball shots like Rod just illustrated. wtf???? That was my thought, too Doc.androd said:Doc; Did it look like this ? If so you have to force the CB forward to beat the kiss. Not too hard on the long rails.
Rod.
PS, Much tougher cross corner.
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It could have been similar to your illustration. I can't remember the precise layout. Perhaps John will read this. If he remembers, he might comment.androd said:Doc; Did it look like this ? If so you have to force the CB forward to beat the kiss. Not too hard on the long rails.
Rod.
PS, Much tougher cross corner.
I remember that shot, it was the rail closest to where I was sitting and even after seeing these great bankers beat kisses all the time, that one still looked like there was no way he was going to get out of the kiss. After he fired it in, the very knowledable crowd showed their appreciation.gulfportdoc said:I wish I had the DVD of Brumback vs. Pagulayan from this year's DCC. John annihilated Alex 3-0. In one of the last shots of the match, John had a straight back on the 8 ball, that I was certain couldn't be made. He made it. I told him after the match I'd give him $20 if he told me how he made it, but he said he didn't know HOW he made it!
If someone has it, perhaps they'd "Greenshot" it for us...
It was something like this: John made it in pocket "A". ~Doc
I might try back bankin 9 to left rear corner and then cross the 2? to bottom right corner..if ya miss the nine maybe ya leave long awkward shotCowboy Dennis said:John is up 1-0 in games and 4-3 in this game. It's Luat's shot. What would you do?
P.S. Luat gets'em both.
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Cowboy Dennis said:John is up 1-0 in games and 4-3 in this game. It's Luat's shot. What would you do?
P.S. Luat gets'em both.
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Interesting comment -- but I am wondering, how can you expect to have a good shot on the 8 if you make the 9, yet "not leave much" if you miss the same shot? Would it be because you are counting on the 9 blocking the obvious pocket for banking the 8, in the event of a miss? If so, that is a really nifty little strategy that never occurred to me!blackeee said:I'd bank the 9 at pocket speed. If I make it I've got a good shot on the 8,If I don't I don't leave much.
AMEN I likeblackeee said:I'd bank the 9 at pocket speed. If I make it I've got a good shot on the 8,If I don't I don't leave much.
blackeee said:I'd bank the 9 at pocket speed. If I make it I've got a good shot on the 8,If I don't I don't leave much.
NH Steve said:Interesting comment -- but I am wondering, how can you expect to have a good shot on the 8 if you make the 9, yet "not leave much" if you miss the same shot? Would it be because you are counting on the 9 blocking the obvious pocket for banking the 8, in the event of a miss? If so, that is a really nifty little strategy that never occurred to me!
I'm not sure the cut on the 9-ball bank is enough to get the cue ball as far as I have drawn in this diagram, at pocket speed on the bank, but if it was, or either the cue ball or 9 ball was over a bit more to begin with, it would definitely work like this.
Anyway, I like the concept of banking a ball at pocket speed toward the same pocket that a second ball would also be a natural shot -- if you make it you have another shot, and if you don't, you hopefully block the pocket on the other bank...
androd said:Doc; Did it look like this ? If so you have to force the CB forward to beat the kiss. Not too hard on the long rails.
Rod.
PS, Much tougher cross corner.
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John Brumback said:Yes,that's how It was laying. I do remember that shot. It was worse than It looked. The 8 was even out father to the left than the cue ball. The reason I told Doc that I didn't know how I made It was because I couldn't believe how much I got the 8 to take the english. It Is sort of a stun shot.You have to stun the cueball with just a half a tip of left english to get the 8 to really grab and then twist while killing the cueball right there out of the way on the rail. It's not that hard If you know how to do It,But It Is kind of hard to explain.
Doc...don't spend that 20$ I'll show you how to make It In a few minutes.I was still busy at the time. lol John B.