John vs. Barry 8 - wwyd?

One Pocket Ghost

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Barry's shot, he's in a tough situation again, but he is ahead in the score 6-4, both going to 8 --- his pocket is at the top right --- not a whole lot of choices here --- the 5ball is not frozen to the foot rail --- the 1ball blocks the 8 from being pocketed --- wwyd >>>

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jtompilot

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Lightly come off the 12, triple hiding the QB. Or just bank the 12 pocket speed.

I kinda like one rail the 8 into the 5 following the QB to the foot rail.

Can I call a time extension?
 
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One Pocket Ghost

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Lightly come off the 12, triple hiding the QB. Or just bank the 12 pocket speed.

I kinda like one rail the 8 into the 5 following the QB to the foot rail.

Can I call a time extension?
You only get one pick, not three...you're supposed to leave some shots for the other patients of this asylum to choose 🤪
 
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beatle

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just cut the 8 in and be done with it. dont say it doesnt go as it does.

if you cant or wont, hit it into the thin left side of the 1 ball hard and draw cue back to the rail. 8 ball 3 rails or so and gets out of play for his runout possibilities. and if you hit it badly it banks to your hole and the 1 goes up table.
 

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I like coming softly off he 12 and leaving him close to the top rail. Looking for something better next inning. K
 

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THe only thing I like is to shoot the 8 ball two rails and follow the cue ball down leaving the cue ball below the second diamond
 

mr3cushion

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It looks like if one were to roll up on the 12 ball, a free shot is available.

A player could just shoot the 8 ball into the long cushion, then into the 5 ball and, 'double kiss' it into the pocket or hang it. Even if the 5 isn't frozen, if hit correctly, it can kiss.

Stop the CB right there.
 

sorackem

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Seems like the best place to be safe is behind that 5. The follow is touchy, but a good eye on it should allow for success.
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THe only thing I like is to shoot the 8 ball two rails and follow the cue ball down leaving the cue ball below the second diamond
i would be nervous leaving the cue ball within a diamond or two of the 5 as the kick to make the 5 is very inviting
and/or banking the 11 in to it
banking the 11 will probably leave you the your repositioned 8 ball but the cue ball will end near the head rail and the 5 and 11 will be near my pocket if i dont make the 5
so i dont think you go after the 9
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jmho
same critique for sorackems shot
if you dont leave me on the 5 or blocking the side rail for the kick
makes the kick inviting
disclaimer if the 5 is FROZE the kick is tougher so i would have to think about it
but since the 5 is so close a soft bump should work
jmho
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I'm shooting the 8 ball into the 1 ball. If you aim to pocket the 8 ball in his corner it should catch the good side of the 1 ball and move some things around. Pinch draw the cb and park it left of the 12 ball.
 

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I think I would just roll off the 12 to the left side , close to the middle diamond and leave him a line of balls that don't go My next shot will probably not be as tough as this one.
I like sorackems shot, but 65 years of playing tells me I am not getting behind that 5 I will be short off the rail and leave him straight in, if its not too far off the rail Whiteys jacked up shot could get me long enough, but I lose control of the cueball speed on that shot.
 

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The 12ball straight back with inside to kill whitey could be good, but only if the 12 ends up right in front of the pocket (or pocketed). I can reach the shot, but I wouldn't shoot it if I had to use the rake.

I'd take a good look at shooting the 8ball into the right side of the 1ball, caroming the 8 toward my pocket, and banking the 1 off the long rail. The CB should be drawn toward the upper left corner, leaving only a blood tester on the 11.
 

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i dont like much, but the first thing I liked is what whitey and kybanks suggested 8 into the left side of 1, draw to head rail, move both the balls toward your side, leave him long on the 11.
 

sorackem

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it doesnt look like you can get there with the CB....1 ball is in the way too much...
That puzzles me, Cincy. The CB can be made to follow that 8 exactly straight, and minute adjustments to contact can allow the CB to take just about any line you want. Seems like there's a ton of room to catch the left-side rail to make that hit.
I'd hope to hit it like shown where the 5 would bounce an inch off the rail leaving CB right at the jaws of his pocket. - like I say; it is touchy.
 

cincy_kid

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That puzzles me, Cincy. The CB can be made to follow that 8 exactly straight, and minute adjustments to contact can allow the CB to take just about any line you want. Seems like there's a ton of room to catch the left-side rail to make that hit.
I'd hope to hit it like shown where the 5 would bounce an inch off the rail leaving CB right at the jaws of his pocket. - like I say; it is touchy.
if you look at the line you drew for the CB to follow, if it hits that long rail around where you diagrammed, you are going to have to have a ton of RHE to spin down that far to hit the 5, otherwise, it looks to me that the CB hits the foot rail past the 5...again i could be seeing it wrong, pics can be tricky :)

Also, when the CB is that close to the 8, its hard to get a lot of good follow on it (for me anyways) without double hitting the CB.
 
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