US Open One-Pocket

markgriffin

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Just to let everyone know, we announced bringing back the US Open One-Pocket event. It will be a the Plaza Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas. Nov 16-21, 2004. A lot more info will be coming out in a few weeks or so.

$5,000 added one-pocket (64 players) and $2,000 added Banks (32 players). Played on 9' Diamond Tables. $175 entry each event.

Held in conjunction with the BCA National 9-Ball Championships.

More info will be posted on playbca.com. Thanks

Mark Griffin
 

Chris Cass

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Hi Mark,

BTW, I wish you luck in the BCA thing. I'm extremely happy hearing about the one pocket added to the event. I am however stunned at the entry fee. I'm not a tight person and the entry fees normally don't bother me when it's worth the money but I am concerned whether I can afford to do all the events. Sure wish it was $75.

Anyway, we'll see what happens. I'm right now in the process of finding a sponsor for the open event. He has told me we'll talk. That's like $500. as you know. Now, with the travel and especially the accomidations. This is really a crunch. Lastime my room alone was a hundred a day and that killed me.

Regards,

C.C.~~brutally honest. :eek:
 

yobagua

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Eventually for one pocket players the US Open should be one of the premier events of the year. That and the Derby. Like Barry Behrman's US Open 9 ball and Reno is for 9 ball players. I dont think $175 is asking too much to participate in a event like this. It is the US Open and everything should be done to insure the fans of serious high quality play. This way the fans who do pay the money get to see the top players who are most committed to the game of one hole. I am sorry Chris I know how tough it is but I really would like to see this tournament become the tops. I think you should get some local sponsors and somehow BCA can support local qualifiers. Kind of like the satellite tournaments of poker. The World Poker Championships would be less reputable without its 10K buy in. But you must know there are ways to circumvent getting in by just plumping down your own hard earned cash.
The problem the way I see it is its low prize money. $5000 for the US open champion and $2000 for banks?!! It should be much higher and that way the money could filter down through the ranks. Also a true open should not be limited to 64 players. Otherwise why call it an OPEN. With more players you could lower the fee or better make the payoff to include more people.
These are just suggestions as I fully support what you are doing, Mark. I hope to be attending in November than going to Grady's affair in December. I figure it will cost me about $3000 for each event. I will be saving and I suggest others do as well as it is worth it.
 

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How does one get to be one of those elite 64 or 32 ??? Is it first come (with the $175 entry fee), first served ??? Are there going to be Qualifiers ??? Also, please define OPEN with a player limit.

Thanks...
Troy
markgriffin said:
Just to let everyone know, we announced bringing back the US Open One-Pocket event. It will be a the Plaza Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas. Nov 16-21, 2004. A lot more info will be coming out in a few weeks or so.

$5,000 added one-pocket (64 players) and $2,000 added Banks (32 players). Played on 9' Diamond Tables. $175 entry each event.

Held in conjunction with the BCA National 9-Ball Championships.

More info will be posted on playbca.com. Thanks

Mark Griffin
 

markgriffin

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I really appreciate everyones comments. Here is the reason for the limited field. First of all, Matt Rosendaul's previous events were limited to 64 players. The entry is about the same.

I agree that a true "open" should not have a limited field, however, this venue can only handle 72 or so 7' tables and 8 @ 9' tables. Remember this is also an amatuer 9-ball national BCA championship.

With 8 tables, we are limited to 64 players. A larger field just requires more tables. But there was a little extra time so we added a 32 man bank field - mostly for the courtesy of the players.

I want to make this event grow. Both of these events have NOT been held since 2001. Lets make this one work and we'll figure out how to make it bigger next year. I also want to state that the added money is coming from my pocket. It will be tough to have a gate (IF we even charge).

In time, I woulod like to see this be HUGE. One-Pocket is the best game

I still appreciate all the comments.

Mark Griffin
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Troy

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OK Mark, so it's not truely an "OPEN" for the reasons you gave.
Please answer my other questions --
"How does one get to be one of those elite 64 or 32 ??? Is it first come (with the $175 entry fee), first served ??? Are there going to be Qualifiers ???"

Thanks,
Troy
markgriffin said:
I really appreciate everyones comments. Here is the reason for the limited field. First of all, Matt Rosendaul's previous events were limited to 64 players. The entry is about the same.

I agree that a true "open" should not have a limited field, however, this venue can only handle 72 or so 7' tables and 8 @ 9' tables. Remember this is also an amatuer 9-ball national BCA championship.

With 8 tables, we are limited to 64 players. A larger field just requires more tables. But there was a little extra time so we added a 32 man bank field - mostly for the courtesy of the players.

I want to make this event grow. Both of these events have NOT been held since 2001. Lets make this one work and we'll figure out how to make it bigger next year. I also want to state that the added money is coming from my pocket. It will be tough to have a gate (IF we even charge).

In time, I woulod like to see this be HUGE. One-Pocket is the best game

I still appreciate all the comments.

Mark Griffin
The BCA is here to stay.
812-987-1461
 

Chris Cass

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Hi Troy,

I can understand how tough it is for Mark getting this off the ground. With the purchase of the BCA money has to be tight. I was thinking of the US Open in Va. I assumme, it's limited to anyone and first come first serve, is what it is. I also think if the entry fee was a bit lower, he would have more entries and even the guy that's new to the game, might think about jumping up. I too am curious as to what Mark has to say?

Regards,

C.C.
 
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JoeyA

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U.S. Open One Pocket Championship, LAS VEGAS

U.S. Open One Pocket Championship, LAS VEGAS

It is simply AWESOME that you have resurrected the U.S. OPen One Pocket Championship. IN Kalamazoo, it was a great one pocket tournament for players and observers alike. I saw the best one pocket played at those tournaments and am simply thrilled that you have once again "stepped up to the plate". You are doing your part to see that our sport succeeds and thrives. Good luck with the BCA and this tournament.

I may not be able to make it this November (too many work days already taken from this calendar year) but you never know....

That $5,000 added is very generous on your part. 64 players should quickly JUMP at the chance to play in this ANNUAL ONE POCKET tournament.

Thanks again for your contribution to our sport and this particular discipline.
Regards,
JoeyA
New Orleans
 

yobagua

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You are right Joey. I went to Kalamazoo from Southern California just to attend. I got to see some of the best one pocket action. I regret that I didnt take Cornbread Red on his offer to play some for $50 a game. Oh I would have never won a game but at least I would have seen his game up close and been able to say I played him.
I plan to attend Mark and wish you all the success.
 

frankncali

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Thanks Mark for bringing back the US Open One Pocket event.

With such short notice I am glad you were able to get it off the ground this
year. I no its limited entries and is $5000 added but its better than nothing and I know you will make it grow. In most other sports the US Open
is more of a prestige thing and thats what this should be as well.
I look at the Open status in that it does not matter if you belong to
any organization. One could be a Pro or a flunky were as in other events
you have to be in an organization like the UPA, BCA, APA etc.
Thanks again and I will be there for sure.
I might even try to get the old guy from my old neck of the woods to come out. He has a friend or two in Vegas and I am sure would see some old friends.
frank howe
 

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US Open One Pocket schedule

US Open One Pocket schedule

The following schedule for Mark Griffin's upcoming BCA event -- including the much anticipated resurrection of the BCA One Pocket Open -- was just sent to me from one of Mark's helping hands for this event, Eydie Romano. It looks like the One Pocket event runs concurrently with their bar table events (with the One Pocket on the 9' tables of course!). I'm pleased that they are planning races to 4 in the One Pocket, with finals a race to 5. I love the DCC, but one thing I miss is the longer races. That's one of the great things about Grady's Legends events -- all long races.

Of course, that's another reason they have to cut off at 64 entries. Maybe not this year, but pretty soon they might need to come up with a method to ensure all the top players get in -- maybe with some regional qualifiers for the rest of us :) -- unless they can expand the field...

Hello Steve,

Here is all the timing and venue info for the BCA US One Pocket in Vegas this coming November.
I will have the Midwest Expo by the end of this week.

Eydie



Schedule of Events

Tuesday, November 16, 2004

12:00 NOON, Registration check in until 10:00 PM

6:30 PM Starts The US Open One Pocket Tournament, finals at 3:00 PM on Saturday. Race to 4, final race to 5. Limit 64 players, Entry fee $175.00 (incl. $10. reg fee and $25. green fee)

7:00 PM Starts Men's Singles, finals on Thursday at 2:00 PM. Race to 9, Limit 256 Entry Fee $75.00, (incl. $10. reg fee)

Mini Tournaments TBA

Wednesday, November 17, 2004

8:00 AM Starts Woman's Singles, finals on Thursday at 2:00 PM. Race to 7/8 (See all rules and regulations) Limit 128, Entry Fee $75.00, (incl. $10. reg. fee)

Mini Tournaments TBA, starting at 5:00 PM until?

Thursday, November 18, 2004

10:00 AM Registration check in until 3:00 PM

3:00 PM Starts Scotch (Dutch) Doubles, finals on Friday 9:30 PM. Limit 128 teams, race to 5, 6, and 7 depending on how many master players are participating ~ See all rules and regulations. Entry Fee $50.00, (incl. $10. reg.fee)

3:30 PM Starts 10 Ball, tournament time tentative . Limit 128, race to 7 $50.00, Entry ($10. reg fee incl.)

Mini Tournaments TBA

Friday, November 19, 2004

6:00 PM, The BCA Beer and Chips Mixer Party, For all hotel registered guests. Non hotel registered guests is $5.00 per person.

Tournament play continues
Mini Tournaments, starting at 10:00 AM all day long!

Saturday, November 20, 2004
8:00 AM Starts Men's Team Limit 128 teams, race to 10, $150.00 Entry Fee, ($10. reg fee incl.) Event ends Sunday at 4 PM.

12:00 NOON Starts Woman's Team Limit 64 teams, race to 10, $150.00 Entry Fee, ($10. Reg fee incl.) Event ends Sunday at 4 PM.

4:00 PM Dash for the Cash Tournament ~ Limited to 64 players, winner breaks, race to 5, $40.00 entry fee (incl. $5.00 reg fee) PAY AT THE DOOR

7:00 PM Starts The Bank Tournament, finals at 3:30 on Sunday. Race to 4 finals race to 5. Limit 32 players, Entry fee $175.00 (Incl. $10. registration fee and $25. green fee)

Sunday, November 21, 2004

Mini Tournaments all day.

3:30 PM Bank Tournament finals

4:00 PM ALL Team Tournament finals

Please Note: All tournament play will be on Diamond Tables. The Bank and One Pocket events will be on Diamond Smart 9 Ft tables. All other play will be on Diamond 7 ft Smart dollar coin-op tables. All tables will have Aramith Super Pro and red circle cue calls. All Diamond tables have 860 Simonis cloth for the BEST in tournament play.

*All tournament times are approximate.

All tournament Rules and Regulations will be posted at www.playbca.com/vegas
 

Pelican

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markgriffin said:
I really appreciate everyones comments. Here is the reason for the limited field. First of all, Matt Rosendaul's previous events were limited to 64 players. The entry is about the same.

I agree that a true "open" should not have a limited field, however, this venue can only handle 72 or so 7' tables and 8 @ 9' tables. Remember this is also an amatuer 9-ball national BCA championship.

With 8 tables, we are limited to 64 players. A larger field just requires more tables. But there was a little extra time so we added a 32 man bank field - mostly for the courtesy of the players.

I want to make this event grow. Both of these events have NOT been held since 2001. Lets make this one work and we'll figure out how to make it bigger next year. I also want to state that the added money is coming from my pocket. It will be tough to have a gate (IF we even charge).

In time, I woulod like to see this be HUGE. One-Pocket is the best game

I still appreciate all the comments.

Mark Griffin
The BCA is here to stay.
812-987-1461

Mornin' Mark, you still haven't said if it was first come on the entry. I would sure love to make it but have Breakers in August, APA in August, R. H. Gilmer's Fall Festival in October, Grady's in December plus I am trying to help him as much as I can prior to the event. Hey, wait a minute, the only thing I have in November is my birthday and that's on the 20th. Hey honey, I know what I want for my birthday! :D
 

Chris Cass

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yobagua said:
Eventually for one pocket players the US Open should be one of the premier events of the year. That and the Derby. Like Barry Behrman's US Open 9 ball and Reno is for 9 ball players. I dont think $175 is asking too much to participate in a event like this. It is the US Open and everything should be done to insure the fans of serious high quality play. This way the fans who do pay the money get to see the top players who are most committed to the game of one hole. I am sorry Chris I know how tough it is but I really would like to see this tournament become the tops. I think you should get some local sponsors and somehow BCA can support local qualifiers. Kind of like the satellite tournaments of poker. The World Poker Championships would be less reputable without its 10K buy in. But you must know there are ways to circumvent getting in by just plumping down your own hard earned cash.
The problem the way I see it is its low prize money. $5000 for the US open champion and $2000 for banks?!! It should be much higher and that way the money could filter down through the ranks. Also a true open should not be limited to 64 players. Otherwise why call it an OPEN. With more players you could lower the fee or better make the payoff to include more people.
These are just suggestions as I fully support what you are doing, Mark. I hope to be attending in November than going to Grady's affair in December. I figure it will cost me about $3000 for each event. I will be saving and I suggest others do as well as it is worth it.

Hi Yobagua,

Thanks for not getting all funny on me. I acually have the tourney mixed up with another event. I have the Va Open mixed up with the U.S. Open Marks talking about. LOL Well, never claimed to be the sharpest knife in the draw. :rolleyes:

Thanks for being kind,

C.C.
 
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