Dennis "Whitey" Young
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In my playing days I grew up knowing that it was illegal to shoot into more than one ball frozen to the cue ball. How I knew this I do not know, but for me it was just common knowledge, or I might of learned this from Fred Whalen or Vern Peterson, I can not recall. But I do 'not' know of any rule that specifically states this.
I am here not to argue this foul scenario but to lay out the facts as I know them, for this is very controversial, because by the rule, it states; 'when an object ball is frozen to the cue ball, you can shoot towards it'. Plus no one thus far that I have discussed this with has even heard of such a ruling nor do they agree that it is a foul to shoot towards more than one ball frozen to the cue ball. Dr. Cue, Massey, Dr. Dave. Dr. Cue stated; "it would have to based upon the governing authority". It put Dr. Dave into a frenzy for about 3 days! LOL! I should add in here that this question was posed to bcapl referees on their facebook, and they all thought it was a legal shot.
Except for one person, Dr. Bill. in a PM I posed the scenario to him and I do not believe he would mind if I shared his reply; "I believe it should be a foul for you are pushing the 1st ball through the 2nd ball". This was entirely inline with my thinking also, plus I also have another reason that I'll explain.
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=Sng0cER3anRtYU5FYUZlMmlidnJ3d1dsdEhiaDNR
I was watching the World Championship Artistic Pool on TV with Eva Lawrence commentating. Eva is also a World Champion Artistic Pool Player. After this shot was made she stated; "That is a beautiful shot, but I want our viewers to know that in a regular game of pool that shot is illegal, for it is illegal to shoot into more than one ball frozen to the cue ball".
I was very glad she brought this to the attention of the viewers, plus it verified what I had known about this shot.
And this is the other reason that I think the authorities of Billiard Congress of America wanted this shot illegal.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1d62jdSkR6JsbOpcaYsNP2uZbcXQZNO56/view?usp=drivesdk
Back in the day straight pool world championship matches were refereed, and just how could a referee ever be able to see a foul in real time if these types of shots were allowed. I also think they wanted to prevent the normal social player from performing what in my opinion would be very ugly shot of blasting into the stack of balls.
To be continued in my next post! Whitey
I am here not to argue this foul scenario but to lay out the facts as I know them, for this is very controversial, because by the rule, it states; 'when an object ball is frozen to the cue ball, you can shoot towards it'. Plus no one thus far that I have discussed this with has even heard of such a ruling nor do they agree that it is a foul to shoot towards more than one ball frozen to the cue ball. Dr. Cue, Massey, Dr. Dave. Dr. Cue stated; "it would have to based upon the governing authority". It put Dr. Dave into a frenzy for about 3 days! LOL! I should add in here that this question was posed to bcapl referees on their facebook, and they all thought it was a legal shot.
Except for one person, Dr. Bill. in a PM I posed the scenario to him and I do not believe he would mind if I shared his reply; "I believe it should be a foul for you are pushing the 1st ball through the 2nd ball". This was entirely inline with my thinking also, plus I also have another reason that I'll explain.
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=Sng0cER3anRtYU5FYUZlMmlidnJ3d1dsdEhiaDNR
I was watching the World Championship Artistic Pool on TV with Eva Lawrence commentating. Eva is also a World Champion Artistic Pool Player. After this shot was made she stated; "That is a beautiful shot, but I want our viewers to know that in a regular game of pool that shot is illegal, for it is illegal to shoot into more than one ball frozen to the cue ball".
I was very glad she brought this to the attention of the viewers, plus it verified what I had known about this shot.
And this is the other reason that I think the authorities of Billiard Congress of America wanted this shot illegal.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1d62jdSkR6JsbOpcaYsNP2uZbcXQZNO56/view?usp=drivesdk
Back in the day straight pool world championship matches were refereed, and just how could a referee ever be able to see a foul in real time if these types of shots were allowed. I also think they wanted to prevent the normal social player from performing what in my opinion would be very ugly shot of blasting into the stack of balls.
To be continued in my next post! Whitey
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