Corey vs Reyes I US Open 2011

tylerdurden · Oct 14, 2011

It is Corey's shot.

Corey needs one, Efren needs 4.

Any thoughts?

I also would like to talk about another shot in this match, i'll post that later.

petie · Oct 14, 2011

Make the 9 in the side and follow down to the end rail near the pocket.

tylerdurden · Oct 14, 2011

petie said:
Make the 9 in the side and follow down to the end rail near the pocket.

Nice shot. If you could do that without making the 9, I really like that. But from this angle it looks like you may have to make it though, as you say.

vapros · Oct 14, 2011

Pure defense here, of course. Corey has to shoot off the rail and try to keep Efren from hurting him too much. That's not easy, but he certainly does not want the 9 ball on the spot and back in action. I think he wants to bunt it straight ahead into the long rail and down by the 1 ball. Hopefully he can tie them together. Move the cueball as little as possible, leaving Efren one or two off-angle banks.

lll · Oct 14, 2011

obviously cory wants all the balls uptable
the 9 ball isnt really "uptable" now and is in a spot that cory has to worry about as a favorable ball for efren
even if you take peties shot and make the 9 so now its "less" up table

but an equally threatening position ball for cory and efren
so you have left distance moved a ball that was more favorable for efren
thats not so bad

if you can tie up the 9 and 1 like vapros suggested that would be ideal

Billy Jackets · Oct 14, 2011

Make the combination bank.
It's not the shot for most people, but top calibre players will hit it good most of the time.

tylerdurden · Oct 14, 2011

vapros said:
Pure defense here, of course. Corey has to shoot off the rail and try to keep Efren from hurting him too much. That's not easy, but he certainly does not want the 9 ball on the spot and back in action. I think he wants to bunt it straight ahead into the long rail and down by the 1 ball. Hopefully he can tie them together. Move the cueball as little as possible, leaving Efren one or two off-angle banks.

This was my solution, I get scared kinda hoping that they will tie up, i'd try to put the cb close to the point on that side rail, and really try to concentrate on tying those 2 up. I figure if i dont tie them up, I at least have one ball somewhat out of play (after he banks a ball and potentially gets on those 2 balls).

I also wonder about shooting that 7 into the 10 (trying to hit about half of the 10), and leaving him a shot at that 9ball and just letting him go. I just don't really shoot stuff like that, but i kinda like it the more i look at it. I'll diagram this shot, i'm liking it more and more here, the cb would probably go more to the right than that, but that was my first try with those arrows

jtompilot · Oct 14, 2011

Bank 9 to Cory's side. Qb hits left side of 13 and stops at middle diamond of head rail. 13 ball ends up near corner pocket out of play.

tylerdurden · Oct 14, 2011

jtompilot said:
Bank 9 to Cory's side. Qb hits left side of 13 and stops at middle diamond of head rail. 13 ball ends up near corner pocket out of play.

This is a nice shot as well, i'd worry about sliding in that hole off the wrong side of that 13, but i really like this shot.

lll · Oct 14, 2011

tylerdurden said:
leaving him a shot at that 9ball and just letting him go.

thats usually not a good strategy against efren

lll · Oct 14, 2011

jtompilot said:
Bank 9 to Cory's side. Qb hits left side of 13 and stops at middle diamond of head rail. 13 ball ends up near corner pocket out of play.

too long a distance for an accurate carom like that for me.
i think too much could go wrong
jmho
icbw

tonygreen · Oct 14, 2011

tylerdurden said:
This was my solution, I get scared kinda hoping that they will tie up, i'd try to put the cb close to the point on that side rail, and really try to concentrate on tying those 2 up. I figure if i dont tie them up, I at least have one ball somewhat out of play (after he banks a ball and potentially gets on those 2 balls).

I also wonder about shooting that 7 into the 10 (trying to hit about half of the 10), and leaving him a shot at that 9ball and just letting him go. I just don't really shoot stuff like that, but i kinda like it the more i look at it. I'll diagram this shot, i'm liking it more and more here, the cb would probably go more to the right than that, but that was my first try with those arrows

Mr Tyler
Are you not concerned with leaving a free throw w/ the 9-ball for the best player in the world to shoot at it ?

androd · Oct 14, 2011

You guys are forgetting the CB's on the rail. Whatever shot is chosen will be very tough to execute.

Rod.
P.S. I think Vapros is dead on with what I'd try.

tylerdurden · Oct 14, 2011

tonygreen said:
Mr Tyler
Are you not concerned with leaving a free throw w/ the 9-ball for the best player in the world to shoot at it ?

My thinking was, if you look at the layout (or if I look at it i should say), you are going to leave him something here. So why not get as many out of play as you can. Plus, if you look at where that 9 is, and if you put the cb near that side rail over there, it may be tough for him to get behind any balls as the side is kinda in the way to get back with low outside. I think sometimes we are so afraid to leave a kinda tough cut, we fail to realize certain banks are just as easy. And that ball is closest and you will get the most accurate hit on it from the rail. It was really just a thought, I don't think i'd shoot that, but it was a confusing shot, so I diagrammed it. I wish I had the guts to shoot it though

tylerdurden · Oct 15, 2011

This is something like what corey was trying, yet he hit the point on the side with the cb. i'll post his shot result too.

tylerdurden · Oct 15, 2011

Corey's actual result..... Efren ran 4 from here, with a bank on the 13 to end it off. Game set match. This was a hill hill game.

lll · Oct 15, 2011

corey got a bad roll
if executed a great shot given the layout
now why didnt i think of that!!....:lol:heh

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