Cowboy Dennis
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I would bank the 3, three rails and send the rock uptable. Under no circumstances would I leave the cueball near where the 3 is now.
One Pocket Ghost said:Steve......You'll notice in my original post I said that the percentage of making the 3-railer will go down, when, as you said, you have to adjust for speed and english to follow down the rail, rather than shooting the 3-railer straight ahead, having to do nothing to the cueball, and sticking right there where the 3ball was....nobody's picked that option, but I wouldn't rule it out...cuz since as I said in my opening post, the 3-railer is pretty much straight ahead dead on, I think the the likelihood of making the 3-railer would be 20%-30% higher by shooting it straight on and sticking, than by adjusting the hit and following down table.
- Ghost
If the 3-ball is off the rail, it could probably be banked up and down. Position-wise however, it wouldn't be as good as the 3-railer.One Pocket Ghost said:Had this situation come up awhile back...tough choice...You have pocket A, you need two, your opponent needs one - the 3ball is 1/4" off the rail, the 4ball is frozen on the rail....
ghost you should know weii would not hit it that badOne Pocket Ghost said:I'm not sure which shot is the best choice, but for all of you that like shooting the 3-railer and following on down...you could hit the 3railer a little off, either too short or too long, and have it come out something like this, giving your opponent a (possibly free) cut shot to get out >>>
- Ghost
PS, And as we all know, the 4 being frozen makes the cut a lot easier than if it was slightly off the rail.
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One Pocket Ghost said:Steve......You'll notice in my original post I said that the percentage of making the 3-railer will go down, when, as you said, you have to adjust for speed and english to follow down the rail, rather than shooting the 3-railer straight ahead, having to do nothing to the cueball, and sticking right there where the 3ball was....nobody's picked that option, but I wouldn't rule it out...cuz since as I said in my opening post, the 3-railer is pretty much straight ahead dead on, I think the the likelihood of making the 3-railer would be 20%-30% higher by shooting it straight on and sticking, than by adjusting the hit and following down table.
- Ghost
SJDinPHX said:Cole Dixon wouldn't be crazy enough to try and cut the 4 down the rail, if I left him that good
Well, I am considered "weak to the pocket" but when I tried the three-railer on the 3-ball to see how I liked it, I missed and left the three on the bottom rail -- very similar to this diagram. Just for the heck of it I cut away at the 4-ball just that one time, and it slid down the rail just as slick as can be, and with pocket speed, I would not have even sold out in the event of a miss. Bottom line, you don't have to be Cole, or Louie or Keith... (when you are just practicing, lol)One Pocket Ghost said:Papie....I have to disagree with you here...if you left Cole, St. Louie Louie, or Keith this cut shot down the rail...THEY'RE SHOOTING IT - AND PROBABLY MAKING IT...if I was playing one of those guys and left him like this, I'd be hoping that he played safe and not shoot the cut - I'd say that these three all-time shot-makers would make this cut shot 8 out of 10 tries...other opinions on the making-it-% of those three champions shooting this cut shot ?
- Ghosty
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NH Steve said:Well, I am considered "weak to the pocket"
NH Steve said:I still like the two-railer on the 4-ball
Steve <--- against the grain again
One pocket Smitty said:Here is my shot. Ithink this will work.--Smitty[CUETABLE]http://CueTable.com/P/?@4AEoL4BHiL4CaqN2DagA4EKkK4FNuK4GQwK3HTaN3IRFL3JWLN4KTiJ3LFNJ3MIPK3NLBJ3ONuK4PVLI4QdOs4WaqN4Wctf2WOCp2WbqD4Wbbq4kVLI4kaaU1kYCX@4AEoL4BHiL4Ccps2DagA4EKkK4FNuK4GQwK3HTaN3IRFL3JWLN4KTiJ3LFNJ3MIPK3NLBJ3ONuK1PXlV4QdOs2XagA2Xbdq4XcYr1kXlV2kYiK2kYqK2kbeQ1kIfr@[/CUETABLE]
The three railer is too good to pass up. Your close enough to the 3 ball to hit it accurately and also controll the direction and speed of both balls. And as a plus you can win with this shot if you follow it and play good speed with the cue ball. I wouldn't worry about leaving a shot on the 4 ball, and if my opponent decided to shoot the 4 ball and made it, I for sure would have the nuts.One Pocket Ghost said:Interesting results...Steve and jtompilot would shoot the 2-railer on the 4ball, everybody else so far, chooses the 3-railer with follow...still waiting for opinions from Papie, Freddy, Billy, Dennis, senor, etc.etc.
- The One Holey Ghost
wincardona said:The three railer is too good to pass up. Your close enough to the 3 ball to hit it accurately and also controll the direction and speed of both balls. And as a plus you can win with this shot if you follow it and play good speed with the cue ball. I wouldn't worry about leaving a shot on the 4 ball, and if my opponent decided to shoot the 4 ball and made it, I for sure would have the nuts.
One Pocket Ghost said:I'm so jealous............