the shooter hit the 6 into the 13
leaving his opponent as diagrammed
his opponent took no time to cross the 6 to his side and bring the cue ball up towards the foot rail
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the shooter hit the 6 into the 13
leaving his opponent as diagrammed
his opponent took no time to cross the 6 to his side and bring the cue ball up towards the foot rail
It looks like he was playing all cueball and didn't much worry about the object balls. He should've at least got the cueball closer to the rail since it looks like he was playing it there. Mostly good things will happen if the 6 hits the stripe but I can't believe it hit the siderail first.
Dennis
Dennis, I'd like to know how you figure this.
Tom
the shooter hit the 6 into the 13
leaving his opponent as diagrammed
his opponent took no time to cross the 6 to his side and bring the cue ball up towards the foot rail
Tom,
I figured the 10 possible things most likely to happen if the 6 hits the stripe coming off the endrail and liked more than half of them. The worst thing that can happen is I give up a long bank on a 10' table with my opponent shooting from close to the footrail.
Dennis
Dennis, I don't necessarily agree with the percentages you offer but even if you are right that more than half the time you will get a good result the other half the time you will have given up that bank on the ten foot table when simply playing a safety. Why, when all balls can be totally controlled, give up anything?
As can be seen in this example, while it is true that no decent shot was sacrificed, not much was accomplished either.
Tom
Tom,
I didn't say "the other half the time you will have given up that bank on the ten foot table when simply playing a safety". I said "The worst thing that can happen is I give up a long bank on a 10' table with my opponent shooting from close to the footrail".
Dennis
All in all I will bide my time (play the score) and move the two balls uptable and wait for my opportunity. I'm not in a hurry to win.
Again, and you allude to my point exactly. Because you are not in a hurry to win why would you be in such a hurry to move both balls on the one shot? I can understand this thinking if the two balls are in a more threatening position but this is not the case here. I state all this not to dissuade you from what you feel is the right shot but to build a case for others to consider showing more patience in these situations. Many games have been lost by players trying to do too much too quickly when the situation did not warrant the risk.
Tom
Tom,
I never wrote this either. I diagrammed my shot and showed what I would attempt knowing the things that could go wrong. I have no desire to "move both balls" as you say.
P.S. Didn't you recently post that you never played a match on a 10' table?
P.Ps. If you cannot accurately comprehend and respond to what I write then I ask you to stop already.
Dennis
Dennis, I know you didn't say you had a desire to move both balls but you have been supporting the shot up to now haven't you? As for my not having played on a ten foot table, this does not alter the facts that giving up no shot is better than potentially giving up a straight back regardless of the added distance.
But I've said my piece and please forgive me if I've gotten on one of your nerves. That was not my intention. There is nothing personal in it for me. It is always about the game for me. I do appreciate your contributing these wwyd threads. Thanks,
Tom
Tom, you know as well as any good player that the shot being discussed is a very weak shot and there's not one good player that would shoot it, not one. The only shot that should be shot here is the cross bank on the 6ball, which is obviously the best choice by far. It's as natural a shot as any shot discussed and has both offense and defense value.
If there's any one who would allow me to start this position by giving me the first shot by banking the 6ball i'll play a freeze out and give them half of there money back if I should win, providing my opponent plays around my speed. Can you say that about the shot being discussed? If any one feels that way about the shot being discussed and plays around my speed they can give me a call they have action.
Dr. Bill
Agreed 100% See post #22
Tom
I'm curious if the 3 of you (Tom, Bill, Rob) would shoot the 6 ball bank on a 9-footer as well? In other words, is the 6 ball bank shot your choice because it's on a 10-foot table, or do you simply favor the shot in any case?
~Doc
I'm curious if the 3 of you (Tom, Bill, Rob) would shoot the 6 ball bank on a 9-footer as well? In other words, is the 6 ball bank shot your choice because it's on a 10-foot table, or do you simply favor the shot in any case?
~Doc
Tom,
I never wrote this either. I diagrammed my shot and showed what I would attempt knowing the things that could go wrong. I have no desire to "move both balls" as you say.
P.S. Didn't you recently post that you never played a match on a 10' table?
P.Ps. If you cannot accurately comprehend and respond to what I write then I ask you to stop already.
Dennis
Dennis, I know you didn't say you had a desire to move both balls but you have been supporting the shot up to now haven't you? As for my not having played on a ten foot table, this does not alter the facts that giving up no shot is better than potentially giving up a straight back regardless of the added distance.
But I've said my piece and please forgive me if I've gotten on one of your nerves. That was not my intention. There is nothing personal in it for me. It is always about the game for me. I do appreciate your contributing these wwyd threads. Thanks,
Tom
I'm curious if the 3 of you (Tom, Bill, Rob) would shoot the 6 ball bank on a 9-footer as well? In other words, is the 6 ball bank shot your choice because it's on a 10-foot table, or do you simply favor the shot in any case?
~Doc