Ronnie Allen--My Memories

stevelomako

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I miss Ronnie Allen.

I haven't posted anything about Ronnie because I just felt empty and a little too emotional when he first passed away.

Even now typing this and thinking of him along with all the others that have passed before him its hard to sit here and put my fingers on the keyboard but I feel like I have to get at least a couple of memories out, his passing is just hitting me too hard and it really hurts inside.




1983-Music City Open, Maxwell House Hotel, Nashville TN.
We're sitting around just talking and out of nowhere he tells me he's so tired of no money in pool, he's sick of grinding it out, running around everywhere for nothing, blah blah blah...he says "I'm going back to California and become a sucker".

I started laughing and he says "Yah I'm serious, the suckers we're always looking for always have money. We beat them and they go home to their nice houses in their nice cars and they come back and they always have money. We go thru what we beat them out of and its back to the same shit looking for another sucker. Who's the real sucker?, yah, that's what I'm gonna do, go back home and become a sucker."

I thought it was pretty funny at the time but as I thought about it, it really made alot of sense.

Anyway, fast forward about 15 years later and I ask him if he's become a sucker like he was talking about and he doesn't remember and I have to tell him the whole story again.

He just looks at me a little bit then says "I must have been pretty damn drunk to come up with something stupid like that".




Early 2000's-DCC, Executive West Hotel, Lousville KY
Ronnie is playing someone (cant remember who) in the bar area on the first table when you walk in that area and there's a huge crowd around sweating it.

Ronnie has a tight cross corner bank to his hole, the ball is near the other guys pocket, its a tight bank and he keeps getting down looking at it then looking at other stuff then he gets looking at the bank again.

He bends down and looks at it then turns and looks at me then turns back to the bank. He's bending down looking at it then gets up and turns and looks at me again. He turns back to the bank looking down at it and gets up again and turns around and stares at me again. I shrug my shoulders and give the little frown like...'what?'

Now everybodys staring at me...trying to figure out why Ronnie keeps staring at me (I'm trying to figure out the same thing).

Ronnie gets down looking at the bank again...then gets up again...turns around again...looks at me and says "I know Cornbread would just get down and smack that bank in like it wasn't nothin".

He turns back to the table and gets down and just 2 rails the ball away and puts whitey in the stack.

Ronnie turns to me and says "I aint Cornbread".

Everybody just laughed and laughed.




2012 DCC, Horseshoe Casino Indiana

I know some people are going to find this hard to believe...but Ronnie never took anything from me...ever.

I don't know why but he always made sure I was OK. I couldn't even buy him a beer, he would never take anything from me.

I go out to the store for him and get him a bottle and while I'm there I buy a flask to give him as a present. I know it probably wasn't the best thing but its the only thing I could think of that I could give him.

I go back and he's at his favorite spot, the little tables outside of the tournament entrance and give him his bottle then put the flask down in front of him.

He says "What's this?". I tell him "You've always been good to me and never let me do anything for you so I got you a gift. It's nothing but I was just thinking about you".

Well, its just silence for awhile and he's just staring at it, picks it up, looks at it, puts it down, picks it back up, puts it down, picks it back up and says "Thanks".

I tell him "You're welcome" and off I go to do whatever it is I do there.

Ronnie was getting around in one of those little scooters there and it had a little basket in front and everytime he'd come scooting by he'd pull the flask out and start grinning that smile of his shaking the flask at me. I'd see him sitting at the little tables and he'd have the flask. It wasn't much but I think it made us both feel good.





I know these are a few goofy stories that don't really mean anything to anyone else. I have a lot of other stories but these are what I thought of thinking about him.

I wish I could say I feel better getting a little off my chest. I guess I do a little.



Ronnie, I miss you and thank you for being my friend.
 

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2012 at the derby i am hitting balls in the action room. well RA and some guy match up right next to the table i'm on(harry platis staking RA). there are no open tables so I offer to give the table up. problem #1 RA has no cue and asks to borrow mine. i agree. i had just cleared the balls off the table and the 30 min limit was up so no balls came to the ball return. before i could stop RA he turns my cue around and is ramming it into the end of the table trying to get the balls out. well by the time i stopped him he had absolutely scratched the heck out of my cue. kicker = it was a brand new diveney i had picked up a couple hours earlier. anyway nothing a refinish did not fix. just remember RA ramming that cue into the table(valley bar table style). i laugh today thinking about it. RIP RA
 

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2012 at the derby i am hitting balls in the action room. well RA and some guy match up right next to the table i'm on(harry platis staking RA). there are no open tables so I offer to give the table up. problem #1 RA has no cue and asks to borrow mine. i agree. i had just cleared the balls off the table and the 30 min limit was up so no balls came to the ball return. before i could stop RA he turns my cue around and is ramming it into the end of the table trying to get the balls out. well by the time i stopped him he had absolutely scratched the heck out of my cue. kicker = it was a brand new diveney i had picked up a couple hours earlier. anyway nothing a refinish did not fix. just remember RA ramming that cue into the table(valley bar table style). i laugh today thinking about it. RIP RA


Some great recollections there from you guys, but this one, I don't know why, strikes me so funny. I can't quit giggling about it. I mean I'm sorry about the cue and everything but damn..
 

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"I'm going to go be a sucker".....How strong is that? He told me something like that once a few years back. I aint "Cornbread", LOL now he wasnt but RA was something else.


Steve you know he never put the bite on me once, he respected me. Wouldnt take anything from me either-cept a ride to 7/11 a couple times, he steered me into a game i didnt play, to be honest I thought he was double steering me, and he wasn't, he got real pissed. I made a bad decision not to listen to him on that. RA handled me in a different way than 99% of pool(real pool players do), I screwed that up-and admit it. i'm embarrassed to admit it but its the truth.

When I met RA I had the most $$ I ever had, i was messed up bad with my back and pills & made a wrong decision. We always got along good, I ducked him a few times after(I was scared he would get a flash back-like freddy did and rob me). RA treated me like a gentalman and i'm proud of that, i was good to hom and should have listened to him when he steered me-that will never sit right with me. we would have made a score, i found out later(wont say who).
 

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Steve, thank you for sharing those memories fo Ronnie. I can just picture him saying all those funny lines. He could give you a look that would just make you laugh. That's what he loved to do, make people laugh.

We spoke to Ronnie's wife, Faye, yesterday, and she is a doll. I told her about this forum and a few other Internet-related things to Ronnie, to include that brief YouTube flick called "Johnston City Pool Hustling" from 1972. She said she can remember Johnston City, and she went there twice. She does not know how to work the computer, but she wrote everything down, so that her children could show her.

Ronnie will never die as long as he remains in our hearts. He was a one-of-a-kind player. There will never be anyone who can match Ronnie Allen's talent and gift of gab. He is a legend. :)
 

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I miss Ronnie Allen.

I haven't posted anything about Ronnie because I just felt empty and a little too emotional when he first passed away. Even now typing this and thinking of him along with all the others that have passed before him its hard to sit here and put my fingers on the keyboard....... <--I have had similar emotions Steve, but in telling 'RA stories'...I often found myself laughing too hard to let them creep in..That was HIS gift to us all !
.......Ronnie, I miss you and thank you for being my friend.

Good job Steve, He did plant a lot of mem's didn't he...John H. has asked me to say a few words in his rejuvinated publication, 'Cue Sports Journal'...Hard to believe we have known Ronnie, collectively, for over a 100 yrs, and we
do have a FEW stories..Myself, because I was the only one stupid enough to play pool, and drink with him, 'on sight', and John, because he used to go to the track, and drink with him, on sight. (either of which could be hazardous to your health ;))

My observance of him, will be a little different, in content..kinda like a belated eulogy. I will post a link to it, after John's new issue comes out !
 
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Good job Steve, He did plant a lot of mem's didn't he...John H. has asked me to say a few words in his rejuvinated publication, 'Cue Sports Journal'...Hard to believe we have known Ronnie, collectively, for over a 100 yrs, and we
do have a FEW stories..Myself, because I was the only one stupid enough to play pool, and drink with him, 'on sight', and John, because he used to go to the track, and drink with him, on sight. (either of which could be hazardous to your health ;))

My observance of him, will be a little different, in content..kinda like a belated eulogy. I will post a link to it, after John's new issue comes out !

I will make the issue available online in the members only section later this month, after the hard copy comes out.

Along with SJD'S words will also be something from The Beard and Keith McCready.
 
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