Cowboy Dennis
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The dynamic duo in action once again. It's AP's shot. What would you do, or more importantly since this is Halloween, what is the only thing you wouldn't do?
Alex vs. Efren 2008 D.C.C. #5
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fred bentivegna
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This is a perfect shot. A shot I got a lot of heat for in a thread awhile back. Rail first kick bank on the 11/15? The ball in front of the right hand pocket down at the head rail.
Monster shot.
Beard
What I had said before is that you try and leave that ball there in hopes of a situation like this coming up where you can use it to your advantage.
SJDinPHX
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Absolutely the correct shot, even an idiot (or a Ghoat could see it)...JK, JK, JK..
PS..I have found someone worse than "Mc Swain" to argue with...Lou and I, have had a running gun battle with John Barton (JB cases) over at AZB, and I am certain he could spot you, or ER, 10 to 2 and the snap for vindictive, ego-ness, and b******g...Of course, he had the thread pulled (over 300 posts, 275 of them his) when he started getting the worst of it..
... As you know,even his own clique can't stand him.. Didn't realize how good I had it over here...Beardman,...You are "John Wayne", compared to that whiney biatch...
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Jimmy B
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Absolutely the correct shot, even an idiot (or a Ghoat could see it)...JK, JK, JK..
PS..I have found someone worse than "Mc Swain" to argue with...Lou and I, have had a running gun battle with John Barton (JB cases) over at AZB, and I am certain he could spot you, or ER, 10 to 2 and the snap for vindictive, ego-ness, and b******g...Of course, he had the thread pulled (over 300 posts, 275 of them his) when he started getting the worst of it..
Didn't realize how good I had it over here...Beardman,...You are "John Wayne", compared to that whiney biatch...
The other week I was in there and Barton was demonstrating how great kamui chalk was supposed to be. I never saw such a mess in my life. He started miscueing like crazy. He had to be high or drunk or have something wrong with him. I couldn't believe he put it up there. You had to see it to believe it. Unless it was supposed to be some kind of joke, but I don't think so. He loves aiming that aiming system too and never fails to pimp it. How can he run a business and put up so many posts like that. It amazes me.. How does he find the time. Of course they say if you need somebody to do something get a busy person to do it. But I'd have to pass on that ****ing nut case............
Frank Almanza
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Most obvious shot with a little reverse spin..Sorry Ghost, I couldn't resist.
One Pocket Ghost
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Frank my man, on the contrary...thank you, thank you, please keep it up - you guys are doing a great job helping me get action by letting everybody know that I shoot shots like that...ya know, I just can't stop myself from shooting those kind of shots cuz they're so much fun to try!...
... I made printouts of all the posts where you guys point out those shots that I shoot, and I bring them with me to the poolroom and show them to guys when I'm matching up...
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Weatherman
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Simple
Simple
Obviously..... he should roll the eleven in and leave the cue ball frozen to the end rail.... that'd be North Dakota. Eleven goes on the spot in scoring position for AP.
Simple
Obviously..... he should roll the eleven in and leave the cue ball frozen to the end rail.... that'd be North Dakota. Eleven goes on the spot in scoring position for AP.
wincardona
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Looks good on paper.
Looks good on paper.
I'm with you here Dave, despite most of our more knowledgeable players agreeing with the kick bank on the 11 ball. Too much distance with that shot and margin for error is lessened considering the position of the 6 ball. Plus the cue ball is positioned too close to the rail, and there really isn't a lot of good positions the 11 ball can end up in. If you either happen to lose the cue ball or run into the 6 ball with the 11 ball things will get worse real fast. It's a very good shot if hit well and the 11 ball ends up in a favorable position, but I don't see that happening. Time to show a little patience and roll the 11 ball in.:sorry
After rolling the 11 ball in Reyes won't have a good side of any ball to come off of other than the 3 ball. If he comes off the 3 ball at least you will have that side of the table open as an ally.
Billy I.
Looks good on paper.
I'm with you here Dave, despite most of our more knowledgeable players agreeing with the kick bank on the 11 ball. Too much distance with that shot and margin for error is lessened considering the position of the 6 ball. Plus the cue ball is positioned too close to the rail, and there really isn't a lot of good positions the 11 ball can end up in. If you either happen to lose the cue ball or run into the 6 ball with the 11 ball things will get worse real fast.
It's a very good shot if hit well and the 11 ball ends up in a favorable position, but I don't see that happening. Time to show a little patience and roll the 11 ball in.:sorryAfter rolling the 11 ball in Reyes won't have a good side of any ball to come off of other than the 3 ball. If he comes off the 3 ball at least you will have that side of the table open as an ally.
Billy I.
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Cowboy Dennis
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I think this is the shot too, either this shot or roll the 11 in and put it on the spot. Who knows what goes through a players mind during a game, Alex took several minutes and walked to the head of the table twice to look things over and then did this
:Freddy, you and Danny D. co-commentated this match and you advocated the kick-bank on the 11 then also
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Here's how he left Efren:
wincardona
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I think this is the shot too, either this shot or roll the 11 in and put it on the spot. Who knows what goes through a players mind during a game, Alex took several minutes and walked to the head of the table twice to look things over and then did this
Freddy, you and Danny D. co-commentated this match and you advocated the kick-bank on the 11 then also
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Here's how he left Efren:
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I don't like his choice, it looks to me that he gave up what little position that he had by shooting his blocker (6 ball) away and opening up the table for Reyes to comfortably get out of the potential jam.
I liked rolling the 11 ball in.
Billy I.
wincardona
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Another factor that I neglected to address is that the angle offered for the kick bank is a little flat, certainly not ideal. I prefer a steeper angle which would offer more of a sweet spot for the ball being banked, in terms of not only controlling the 11 ball but controlling the cue ball as well. Plus it's an angle that is easier to judge.I'm with you here Dave, despite most of our more knowledgeable players agreeing with the kick bank on the 11 ball. Too much distance with that shot and margin for error is lessened considering the position of the 6 ball. Plus the cue ball is positioned too close to the rail, and there really isn't a lot of good positions the 11 ball can end up in. If you either happen to lose the cue ball or run into the 6 ball with the 11 ball things will get worse real fast.
After rolling the 11 ball in Reyes won't have a good side of any ball to come off of other than the 3 ball. If he comes off the 3 ball at least you will have that side of the table open as an ally.
Billy I.
To make this a little easier to understand move the cue ball 6" to the right of where it is now and then look at the angle. Yes this angle is flatter than the original one, but the flatter the angle the more difficult the hit becomes to get the results needed. The original angle is ok, but still a little flat, that coupled with the distance of the shot makes this shot play difficult.
Dr. Bill
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wincardona
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Dave, your avatar looks to me like your buddy is Cole Dickson's friend...Keith Mc Cready.
Billy I.
lll
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so does efren bank the six put the cueball on the 2??
or bank the 6 and snuggle the cue on the 3/7??
or bank the 6 and snuggle the cue on the 3/7??
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This is the shot i liked too. It will normally roll off a little and its hard to get him on that rail, but i dont like kicking as it could hit that ball in the middle of the table.
Frank Almanza
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So now that Halloween is over and we're back to shooting shots that we would shoot. Here is my option.
Cowboy Dennis
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Tough shot that opens up the banking lanes Frank. Efren shot the 14.
He left Alex here:
