efren/scott #678

lll said:

jeff a wwyd for you since you asked and the gang
here is a wwyd to ponder
jeff maybe let a few of the less experienced among us offer their suggestions before letting us know what a seasoned player like yourself would do
(you usually get an A+ on these "quizzes"...)
efren leads in ball score 3/2
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wincardona said:

Looks like the angle is there to double bank the 8ball. The 9ball is an ally positioned well enough to be banked into Reyes pocket, after he positions the 8ball near his pocket his opponent will have to defend against giving up a shot on not only the 8ball but the 9ball as well
Dr. Bill

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gulfportdoc said:

Are you still in Vegas? If so, how about sharing your take on the proceedings?

Not to highjack this thread. Perhaps you could add on to one of the Frost/Alex threads, or start a new one.

Thanks~
Doc

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lll said:

jeff a wwyd for you since you asked and the gang
here is a wwyd to ponder
jeff maybe let a few of the less experienced among us offer their suggestions before letting us know what a seasoned player like yourself would do
(you usually get an A+ on these "quizzes"...)
efren leads in ball score 3/2
efrens shot
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LSJohn said:

I can't see clearly enough to tell whether I'd shoot the 8 and draw the CB off the stripe nearest the 8(double-kissing off the stirpe) or spin off the stripe beside that one to put CB on the 10. If I can hit the stripe nearest the 8 full in the face when shooting the 8, I'm shooting the 8.

Efren might kick the stripe beside the 7 off the 7 to his hole.

Thanks for the WWYD, and keep 'em coimin'.... pretty please. :smile

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Tom Wirth said:

It is a little difficult to get a true feel for the angle on this eight ball but I'm thinking that the shot can be cue down the rail. Hit the ball with follow and a touch of right hand English and bring the cue ball along a diagonal path for position on what I assume to be the nine. The cue ball should carom off whatever stripped ball that is along the side rail near the eight ball.

Tom

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One Pocket Ghost said:

And I think, maybe you've already seen this match......

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Jeff sparks said:

Tom, the stripe looks to close to the 8 IMVingO, looks like you'd end up on the bad side of the 9 shooting it as you suggested, really hard to tell though from the pic. Cutting the 8 has 1 or possibly 2 ball value IMO, if the double kiss pushes the stripe the right way, but I think Efren prolly kicked the stripe, either caroming off the 7 or missing it, Looks like a shot he'd like.

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wincardona said:

Looks like the angle is there to double bank the 8ball. The 9ball is an ally positioned well enough to be banked into Reyes pocket, after he positions the 8ball near his pocket his opponent will have to defend against giving up a shot on not only the 8ball but the 9ball as well
Dr. Bill

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Frank Almanza said:

Sometimes what you do depends on who you're playing. I might do this. Mainly to get rid of it before he gets more over there.
(my edit since the pic doesnt come on the screen unless you click on attachment ....frank's shot is moving the stripe away from scotts pocket)

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lll said:

i was surprised that except for frank noone else wanted to move the stripe away..... ...although it may be an "ally" to me as dr. bill stated why put another ball in play??...you have him in a wedge with a small lead and scott is more likely to go for something and maybe give up opportunities to efren...efren did Z bank the 8 (i guess the cut wasnt there or the angle to get behind the 9)...and drew the cue ball to scotts side rail to protect against the 9...he hit it poorly

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Yeah, at first glance my impression was to wonder why it went so short on a Gold Crown!? Then I realized that Reyes had to hit it right of center in order to be able to draw the CB to the side rail. Turns out it was a poor selection anyhow. When Efren takes a "show off" shot, and mangles it, he looks just as silly as do the rest of us.... I know Cardone would have left it better.

~Doc

gulfportdoc said:

Yeah, at first glance my impression was to wonder why it went so short on a Gold Crown!? Then I realized that Reyes had to hit it right of center in order to be able to draw the CB to the side rail. Turns out it was a poor selection anyhow. When Efren takes a "show off" shot, and mangles it, he looks just as silly as do the rest of us.... I know Cardone would have left it better.

~Doc

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Tom Wirth said:

There is a difference between playing the wrong shot and playing the right shot poorly. I see nothing wrong with Efren's choice. I would not be surprised if this was one of the early games in this match and he didn't expect the eight to come off so flat off the second rail on a Brunswick. Had that ball laid further down table and maybe somewhat closer to his pocket, Scott would have been in a very different situation.

Removing the nine ball was not necessary here. The score is so low and with the balls tied up in the wedge, it is logical that Efren would like to force the issue a bit.

Tom

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