Maybe I should give that system a better chance. Seems like guys who use it always beat me.
Ok, whatever you think buddy
Let us say what has perhaps gone unspoken with these little exchanges, John: You typify the "instinct" players as much as anyone alive. Accordingly, I will take your seasoned comments in that spirit.
Without an understanding of basic physics and geometry, you are straight fukked in bank pool. You might not *know* you are using them, Best Banker in the Galaxy, but you are. Similarly, show me a good three-cushion player (other than Bill Smith) and I will show you a person with a head chock full of kicking systems.[/QUOTE
:sorry Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers. I really do like how you word things
If I may....serious question too.....what is the diff between a method and a system? I like to think I use "methods" ( for the shot at hand) and most others use systems for the shot at hand?????. Sorry for going off topic. John B.
Let us say what has perhaps gone unspoken with these little exchanges, John: You typify the "instinct" players as much as anyone alive. Accordingly, I will take your seasoned comments in that spirit.
Without an understanding of basic physics and geometry, you are straight fukked in bank pool. You might not *know* you are using them, Best Banker in the Galaxy, but you are. Similarly, show me a good three-cushion player (other than Bill Smith) and I will show you a person with a head chock full of kicking systems.[/QUOTE
:sorry Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers. I really do like how you word things
If I may....serious question too.....what is the diff between a method and a system? I like to think I use "methods" ( for the shot at hand) and most others use systems for the shot at hand?????. Sorry for going off topic. John B.
You didn't ruffle my feathers at all. I just wanted to point out that to hear you talk, you appear to me to come from the instinct or trial and error side of the continuum, and that I will wager that most new players shorten their learning curve with kicking systems. Hell, just knowing the Corner Five system will help you out tremendously.
Difference between a method and a system? Dunno, depends on exactly what your method is, I suppose. Perhaps you can tell me all your secrets and then I can make a ruling
My $.02:
If you're thinking "To get this 3-railer to come off really long I need it to come off the 3rd rail here, so I need to hit the first rail here with a little bit of runnng, to hit the 2nd rail there," that's a method (mostly feel and experience rather than calculation to find the places on the rail that look right.)
If you're thinking "This diamond to this diamond will equal that diamond on the second rail and from that diamond to that diamond= first diamond on that rail, so I need to aim just inside that diamond with center ball," that's a system (using pre-existing target points on the rails and adjusting off of them.)
My guess is that you only use a diamond to help establish an exact first-rail aim point after you've figured out what looks right for where you need to hit each other rail to come off the last rail toward your target (straightback's "instinct" method.)
Edit: ah, now I see petie said it simpler. (I had all these damn words layin' around and I had to put 'em somewhere.)
My $.02:
If you're thinking "To get this 3-railer to come off really long I need it to come off the 3rd rail here, so I need to hit the first rail here with a little bit of runnng, to hit the 2nd rail there," that's a method (mostly feel and experience rather than calculation to find the places on the rail that look right.)
If you're thinking "This diamond to this diamond will equal that diamond on the second rail and from that diamond to that diamond= first diamond on that rail, so I need to aim just inside that diamond with center ball," that's a system (using pre-existing target points on the rails and adjusting off of them.)
My guess is that you only use a diamond to help establish an exact first-rail aim point after you've figured out what looks right for where you need to hit each other rail to come off the last rail toward your target (straightback's "instinct" method.)
Edit: ah, now I see petie said it simpler. (I had all these damn words layin' around and I had to put 'em somewhere.)
I understand all of that and it even makes sense
Only one problem though...I have never in my life used a diamond to help me with a pool shot