ike/darren2013 #1

lll · Aug 8, 2015

i dont remember the member who really liked the side rail break
but he might like this wwyd...

i havent watched the whole game/match yet
but ike decided to to kick bank to start the match
(fwiw he started out to break from the right side rail to have the lower right pocket but changed his mond to break from here for the same pocket

lll · Aug 8, 2015

heres how it ended up
its darren's shot
wwyd

Miller · Aug 8, 2015

u12 from indy is a big proponent of the side rack break i think.

not sure where they are going, but not staying there and moving some furniture my way....

LSJohn · Aug 8, 2015

lll said:
heres how it ended up
its darren's shot
wwyd
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Tough.

I think I have room to force forward off a slightly right-of-center hit on the 8, 2-railing the 9 out and drifting CB to bottom rail. The 8 and 14 won't go far, but if the 9 hits the 14 on the way out I think I'll like it.

One Pocket Ghost · Aug 8, 2015

Simple safety called for here = bank the 11 back into the center of the stack - cueball goes into the long rail and comes back to rest frozen on the center of the foot rail.

- Ghost

jtompilot · Aug 8, 2015

One rail to hit the bottom of the 15.

I do like Ghosts shot

tylerdurden · Aug 8, 2015

The 8 to 9 bank combo looks good then the cb follows straight forward off the 10 along that line of four balls to the side rail.

jtompilot · Aug 8, 2015

Miller said:
u12 from indy is a big proponent of the side rack break i think.

not sure where they are going, but not staying there and moving some furniture my way....

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That has a good chance of working

LSJohn · Aug 8, 2015

One Pocket Ghost said:
Simple safety here = bank the 11 back into the center of the stack - cueball goes into my long rail and comes back to rest frozen on the center of the foot rail.

- Ghost

Dammit! That was my first shot I chose. I should have stayed with it.

Frank Almanza · Aug 9, 2015

Miller said:
u12 from indy is a big proponent of the side rack break i think.

not sure where they are going, but not staying there and moving some furniture my way....

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Nice shot and very creative. The six should come back and really open balls to your side. The only down side is would you be able to generate enough back spin with the cue ball being so close to the object ball. looks like you would need a pretty big stroke to draw the cue ball around.

Also you would have to be careful of the ten ball pushing the eight ball into the path of the cue ball.

One Pocket Ghost · Aug 9, 2015

Miller said:
not sure where they are going, but not staying there and moving some furniture my way....

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Miller · Aug 9, 2015

One Pocket Ghost said:
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et tu brute?

hey pops

, you think that maybe i might have just set it up and hit it a couple times?

i think that the focus has to be on spinning whitey outta there.

androd · Aug 9, 2015

Miller said:
et tu brute?

hey pops , you think that maybe i might have just set it up and hit it a couple times?

Set it up ?
The shot or the pipe ?

Fast Lenny · Aug 9, 2015

One Pocket Ghost said:
Simple safety called for here = bank the 11 back into the center of the stack - cueball goes into the long rail and comes back to rest frozen on the center of the foot rail.

- Ghost

If I am left on the center of the foot rail I am going to be playing the 15 off the 9 ball unless they get moved. If the shot goes then game over and if not the position left after the shot will be worse then what is shown right now.

One Pocket Ghost · Aug 9, 2015

Fast Lenny said:
If I am left on the center of the foot rail I am going to be playing the 15 off the 9 ball unless they get moved. If the shot goes then game over and if not the position left after the shot will be worse then what is shown right now.

Your shot, as per what I would be leaving my opponent, was taken into consideration by me before I made and stated my choice - and it's one of the three reasons why I said the cueball needs to be left at the "center of the foot rail".

LSJohn · Aug 9, 2015

Fast Lenny said:
If I am left on the center of the foot rail I am going to be playing the 15 off the 9 ball unless they get moved. If the shot goes then game over and if not the position left after the shot will be worse then what is shown right now.

I see your shot, but I don't get the "game over" part.... I don't see reason to be at all confident of having another shot. 9 and 14 leave, 11 is in the stack (maybe after clipping the 8)....

Maybe you'll have the angle to draw to Darren's long rail and out for the 1, 7. Is that what you're thinking?

androd · Aug 9, 2015

LSJohn said:
I see your shot, but I don't get the "game over" part.... I don't see reason to be at all confident of having another shot. 9 and 14 leave, 11 is in the stack (maybe after clipping the 8)....

Maybe you'll have the angle to draw to Darren's long rail and out for the 1, 7. Is that what you're thinking?

To draw the 15 into the pocket, you have to follow the CB into the stack.

LSJohn · Aug 9, 2015

androd said:
To draw the 15 into the pocket, you have to follow the CB into the stack.

I see what you mean (you're seeing it into the long-rail corrner with center CB) but I didn't know that high vs low would make that much difference on a carom like this.

Thanks

I didn't used to be a slow learner, but I 'spect I got me somma that 'ere auld tymers kickin' in.

And besides, I ....................................... this damned dog is............. think I better have .......

Why'd I come in here?

Fast Lenny · Aug 9, 2015

LSJohn said:
I see your shot, but I don't get the "game over" part.... I don't see reason to be at all confident of having another shot. 9 and 14 leave, 11 is in the stack (maybe after clipping the 8)....

Maybe you'll have the angle to draw to Darren's long rail and out for the 1, 7. Is that what you're thinking?

I think you have a better then 50/50 chance of getting a second shot if that 15 ball goes and at these guys level it is probably curtains. Personally I would thin off the 5 ball as opposed to what Ghost suggested and go down table getting to the end rail and leave a bad angle shot on the 7 ball at most which Ike will not shoot even on those buckets. I should be coming back to the table in a better position to do something then what is pictured.

LSJohn · Aug 9, 2015

Fast Lenny said:
I think you have a better then 50/50 chance of getting a second shot if that 15 ball goes and at these guys level it is probably curtains. Personally I would thin off the 5 ball as opposed to what Ghost suggested and go down table getting to the end rail and leave a bad angle shot on the 7 ball at most which Ike will not shoot even on those buckets. I should be coming back to the table in a better position to do something then what is pictured.

Thanks

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