What Do You Do?

lfigueroa

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Yes we have choices, and in regard to this situation I have traveled down the many roads that this type of a situation offers and have concluded that the best path to take is Rodney's choice. Maybe i'm missing something here but i'll stick with the road Rod travels because that's the one that made all the difference. (TO ME)



Dr. Bill


That's fine, Dr. Bill. At least this time you allow that it is the correct answer for you and perhaps not everyone.

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If you mean play if you like the game--don't play if you don't like it, that's fine but you would have to be very tolerant to like it. You know very well by now that your opponent is not going to lose more than one barrel. You also know that, at least for a lot of you guys, if you get stuck you'll fire the rent at him along with the good money. I just don't see it. Find another customer.

He's playing for a fortune if he wins--one barrel if he loses. You're playing for one barrel if you win--a fortune if you lose.


I think one of the best answers so far is to just ask the guy: are you just playing one set if you lose? I think that subtly puts him on notice that it's kind of a kind of nitty move for small money.

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Rod's got the only answer that makes sense to me: "If you don't like the game don't play. If you do like it, play til you get broke or win or he does you a favor and quits."

This money odds stuff is nonsense. If you think otherwise, then I am going to help you become very rich with a can't lose strategy (patent pending)!

Step 1. Go to Vegas or Atlantic City.

Step 2. Pick your favorite game that gets you closest to 50/50. This is probably video poker, craps playing full odds, or loose rules blackjack.

Step 3. Place a bet.

Step 4. If you win, keep going until you lose.

Step 5. If you lose, go home and come back tomorrow.​

This is just Player A's master strategy for getting money odds in one pocket, applied to casino gaming.

Of course, since it's infallible, why go home and come back tomorrow? You should just take a few hours off and come back. Wait, it always works, so maybe just one hour. Infallible? Ok, just a trip to the bathroom and then restart the foolproof system. Wait, maybe just think about something else and then restart the unstoppable money-odds-creating system?

Everyone who wins with this system owes me 10% vig (PayPal will be fine). Anyone who loses did it wrong.

Cory

P. S. The odds are the odds. You can't change them by resequencing the wagers. You might say, "Well it takes me time to warm up" or something. That just means you're overestimating your odds of success in early sets and you should adjust accordingly. E.g., If that's true, you should say "I never play well until the second set, so I'll play you this one even and then play 9-8 thereafter." If they say no, see Rod's Rule!


But don't forget that now Player B has asked for weight and Player A is willing to give up a ball. Whereas before Player A probably felt he had at least small bit the best of it and didn't mind the one barrel shot so much, now he has to contend with a closer game or perhaps even one where he is a very slight dog in a short race.

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I think the question is whether A should let the fact that he could have won only one set influence him regarding whether to play another after losing the first. Rod's answer was No, and it's a reasonable answer. My answer is that he should have decided what to do in this situation before he lost the first set.

Either decision he made would be OK, but I think it's worth mentioning that for some players there may be a detrimental effect on the quality of his play by being stuck a set, and maybe also by not being able to get rid of the thought that he was now risking losing more than he could have won. A may be a person who knows he'd be better off starting fresh on the next day. He could want to play, and like the game, but decide he'd like it even better starting fresh.


And I think your comments reflect the fact that we play in the real world where we don't all play like Efren right out of the gate and execute everything perfectly and never get a bad roll.

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I mentioned the 1 and done guy who I played. I knew he would quit. I didn't care. I loved the action even if it was short. That's just me. I know many may have done differently.


That's another element -- maybe you just want the action, are bored, or just don't mind the one barrel though I doubt most of us are wired thataway.

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I was playing Bill Cress, we'd been playing a few hours. Bill went to the restroom and a triple smart sweater came over and said "do you know what you could've won ?" I said no, he said, he only had $40 dollars.

I said " I personally know he now has more than $1200 dollars , should I quit " He resembled a cow watching a passing train. :D


lol, good story.

My one-and-done guy was Big Ed. Race to four, $200, that was it win or lose. One afternoon, for the "matinee performance," we played the $200 race to four 1pocket and I got stuck 0-3. But then managed to win four in a row for the win. Later that day Ed comes back for the "evening show" and we play another $200 set and again I get stuck 0-3 but somehow manage to win four in a row again.

One of the rail birds who'd witnessed both sets chirped to Big Ed as he was leaving the pool room, "I'd avoid going over any bridges on the way home."

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Great quote, Lou. It was worth slogging through this whole thread to be pleasantly surprised by the Frost diamond in the rough.;)

~Doc


Yep. It's a wonderful poem, Doc, and many people misunderstand it.

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Full disclosure, I just realized that I am that type of player now. If I win or lose a race to three I'm all done. Its mostly my knees and back. Since I got my heart shocked back into rhythm, its not that anymore.
 

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Full disclosure, I just realized that I am that type of player now. If I win or lose a race to three I'm all done. Its mostly my knees and back. Since I got my heart shocked back into rhythm, its not that anymore.

Nah, you're not the type of player that B was in the original question, Petie. He was gonna play a second set after he won the first. He was only one loss and done.
 
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