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Old 06-01-2012, 08:32 PM
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While I was reading through all this again I got to thinking about alot of the moves and crap I've had pulled on me.I'm going to tell all the ones I can think of right now and I might add to it as I remember somemore.( there will be more,I'm sure)I don't think I'm going to name names as of yet.Might give a hint though.

9ball bar table tourny,few thou on the line.It's down into the $ rounds and I draw the best player in the country at the time.Race to 9,he's got me like 6 to 2,I come back and it's like 7 to 7 and I weld him to the back of a ball.He's got to kick like 3 rails to even have a chance at hitting the ball.Well there's this cluster of balls over on a rail,( he's doggin his brains out and pisssed right now cause I'm coming back) Well he shoots and doesn't even come close to hitting the ball and the cballs flys around hard right at this cluster that might keep me from running out,(it's coming DEAD at the cluster with enough speed to bust em wide open.Guess what he did.He snatched the cball up in the middle of the table and threw it at me.( I should have fired it back at his head)I went screaming to the tourny director and told him what just happened and he came over to the table and the creep I was playing just said, awe it wasn't go to hit them balls.Well,since he was the big 9ball king they let him have it.It cost me the set.Instead of having a road map runout and me bing so pissed off that the prick got away with that,I let the creep win the match. This guy here is as skinny as a one iron and tall with black hair.Hails From the south.

Here's a good one too.A few years ago at the DCC,I'm out pretty far in the banks,playin good.I'll just tell you who this was right now.Luat.I've never had problems with any other pinos.Well we get to playin our match and I noticed he wouldn't set down.He just kept leaning on his cue like he was getting ready to start a foot race and close to the table,I might add,like I was making him wait so HE could shoot.I let it go for as long as I could which would be way to long.About the second or third game,I told him It's my turn to shoot, set down in your chair please,your making me nervous.That's what I told him.Would you belive he still wouldn't and didn't.I said look,we have rules over here that you must be in your chair when the opp is at the table.He said I don't care about them rules or something like that.I started to go get Ken but I didn't want to look like an ass,(that sounds kinda stupid))He never did touch his seat. Guess what,It's 2 to 2 his break,he runs out.I couldn't make a ball it sharked me so much.Well I got him back a couple years later with the ole double dip in the finals.That felt extra good.
Got somemore good ones.Happy trails to you John B.

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Old 06-01-2012, 10:07 PM
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For the record,I used to be a top 9ball player now I suck and don't like the game at all.

I'm in a huge pro 9ball event,don't remember which one.I'm playing capten hook in this one.It's a race to 11 and the score is 9 to 9 and I'm shooting the 7ball,it's a little easier than a spot shot,just as go to pull the trigger he strikes a match real hard and I shoot it into the rail.I'm mad and can't believe
that this champion would do such a thing and I dog it off to him.I had him dogging it and I would have won the set If he hadn't sharked me out of it.Never have cared much for that guy since.

Playin in a real nice tourny down at Jimmy Hodges pool room in SC.I got a match with this player that I had become buddys with.Helping him and his trick shots and putting the balls up there for him so he could spin the balls with his fingers around balls.He's the best there ever was at that stuff.Think he's a church goin fellow too.Nice big tall man.Well we get to playing our match and every time I get down on a shot I hear this loud sucking noise.I only hear it when I'm down on my shot.It's driving me crazy but I'm still winning the match pertty easy.Finally I couldn't take it anymore and I turned around and asked him nicely If he would please quit making that sucking noise while I'm shooting ( I kinda just laughed it off when I said it).He said he didn't know he was doing it and that it must be a habit.I just said I've played you a few times and you didn't do it then.He just looked down and I went ahead and shot him in.He is alot better at trick shots than playin 9ball.It was nothin but an ole school shark tactic.Never messed with him again either after that.Stayed way away from him.

At the DCC a few years ago in the 9ball and (I was in the running for the master of the table) (big $) I'm playing this player that everyone thinks Is the nicest guy you could meet.He would never ever do anything unsportsman like,blah blah blah,well we are using the sardo rack.Race to 7 he's got me 6 to 1,I finally get a turn and run a 5 racks in a row,he doesn't come to the table for 5 racks.I've found my break spot and I'm making the wing ball straight in the corner,5 racks in a row.I'm breaking perfect and squatting the cball dead in the middle with 3/4 speed.(This was deep into the 9ball)Ok so it's 6 to 6 my break.I hit them perfect with the same exact speed I hit the other breaks with and the wing ball hits 6inches above the corner pocket this time and I squat the cball perfect in the middle of the table and nothing falls.Leaves him a Ray Charles,connect the dot roadmap.Come to find out this player had been doing it to maore than just me.When using the sardo rack they had dots on the cloth that you were supposed to line the rack up with.Well what he did to me and some others was he put the rack way above the spots.That's why all of the sudden my wing ball hit so far up the rail.I knew for sure I hit them just like all the others in that match.I liked the sardo rack at that time because I thought finally I don't have to check these thiefs racks.Wrong again.

There's alot that the crowd never ever has a clue about whats going on out there on that pool table.That's one of the main reasons I quit that ole pro tour about 15 or 20 years ago.I knew I was out gunned cause I don't cheat lie or steal.Never was a good hustler either.I got more for later.Untill we meet again. John B.
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Old 06-01-2012, 10:30 PM
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In Truman's race to 23, in the finals match my opponent is standing at the end of the table in my line of sight switching his cue from his left hand to his right hand, flopping it back and forth. I didn't say anything, i was numb i was so tired, but i knew he was attempting to shark me. Another time while i was down on a cross side bank, he began swinging his leg back and forth real fast as if he was getting a cramp, i called him on this one, and said are you trying to shark me or what? I don't muck with anyone, and don't expect them to muck with me either. Two other opponents would throw a fit, scream and holler when they missed, leaving me a duck cross side, another form of sharking...They even threw their cues onto the next table.
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Old 06-01-2012, 11:01 PM
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While I was reading through all this again I got to thinking about alot of the moves and crap I've had pulled on me.

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As long as you're going to cry like you stuck yourself with a barbed hook I'll tell you a story about a guy here. His name was Frederick Hess but he was known as "Fast Freddy". He was playing in a 9-Ball tourney one day and this layout came up. Just before he got down to shoot the 7 ball he noticed his opponent had turned around for a second. Freddy shot the 7 ball in and knocked the 8 ball in the side with his hand and played perfect shapes on the 9 ball. He was down shooting the 9 when his oppo turned around and went crazy, knowing that Freddy could not have made the 8 anywhere. I don't remember the resolution of the conflict but it took awhile.

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If you keep posting here long enough I'll tell the story of how Miami stole a ball from me and I waited 15-20 years to get it back.

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Old 06-02-2012, 07:25 AM
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As long as you're going to cry like you stuck yourself with a barbed hook I'll tell you a story about a guy here. His name was Frederick Hess but he was known as "Fast Freddy". He was playing in a 9-Ball tourney one day and this layout came up. Just before he got down to shoot the 7 ball he noticed his opponent had turned around for a second. Freddy shot the 7 ball in and knocked the 8 ball in the side with his hand and played perfect shapes on the 9 ball. He was down shooting the 9 when his oppo turned around and went crazy, knowing that Freddy could not have made the 8 anywhere. I don't remember the resolution of the conflict but it took awhile.

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LOL,that Frederick name threw me off.But Fast Freddy.. now that name rings a bell!! Would you believe that's who I went on my first road trip with He took me straight to The Rack Up there where your from,dummy.Lucky for me no one in there would play 9ball.I finally beat some guy out of 60$ and the house man took 20 of it.I was in shock untill they told me that's how they do it.Freddy lost everything we had.They plucked him like a chickin.We was there for a few days.I'll never forget it either.They were smoking pot right there in the poolroom.I can still remember the sound of that door buzzer when they would let you in. I still see Freddy every now and then at the dcc.Steve Gumphrey,Lori Shampo,Bobby Hunter are some of the ones that came in while I was there.I just sat over on some church like benches,on the right and stayed quiet.I thought he said we were going to win thousands and we just got broke and had to go back and hustle them ole bars again

And just how long do we have to wait.. pftt,the last catfish hook I had to get cut out cost me 400 Big thick circle hook down deep past the barb,and I had to load my pontoon by myself and drive about 20m. with that hook buried deep in my thumb.Get this,At the local band aid station here in town,they had to go down the road and borrow some cutters that were way bigger than anything they had,so they could push it through and then cut it off and back it out.Stuff like that will make a man out of ya,I'm tellin ya.Don't laugh, breath that would knock a buzzard off a gut wagon breath John B.
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Old 06-02-2012, 09:33 AM
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LOL,that Frederick name threw me off.But Fast Freddy.. now that name rings a bell!! Would you believe that's who I went on my first road trip with He took me straight to The Rack Up there where your from,dummy.Lucky for me no one in there would play 9ball.I finally beat some guy out of 60$ and the house man took 20 of it.I was in shock untill they told me that's how they do it.Freddy lost everything we had.They plucked him like a chickin.We was there for a few days.I'll never forget it either.They were smoking pot right there in the poolroom.I can still remember the sound of that door buzzer when they would let you in. I still see Freddy every now and then at the dcc.Steve Gumphrey,Lori Shampo,Bobby Hunter are some of the ones that came in while I was there.I just sat over on some church like benches,on the right and stayed quiet.I thought he said we were going to win thousands and we just got broke and had to go back and hustle them ole bars again

And just how long do we have to wait.. pftt,the last catfish hook I had to get cut out cost me 400 Big thick circle hook down deep past the barb,and I had to load my pontoon by myself and drive about 20m. with that hook buried deep in my thumb.Get this,At the local band aid station here in town,they had to go down the road and borrow some cutters that were way bigger than anything they had,so they could push it through and then cut it off and back it out.Stuff like that will make a man out of ya,I'm tellin ya.Don't laugh, breath that would knock a buzzard off a gut wagon breath John B.
Dear Catfish Breath,

Freddy was a piece of work wasn't he? He had so many unique ways of acquiring money it was a wonder he never had any. I wrote this about him one day, it's one of his few wins.

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Regarding the Miami story; it's long and I'll have to feel like it to do it.

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Old 06-02-2012, 09:39 AM
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I like the naming of names, why not

I was playing morro in a not so big tournament, he had to give the field a game going to 5 and I always liked it and had a good record on him. Finally, one week he pulled ahead of me and I won a game, and I was breaking good and won a couple in a row. It was rack your own, and at the end I when i was racking I was on the hill and he needed 2, and he put up a huge stink for literally 20 minutes (like really) about me breaking and making the corner ball and putting the 2 ball with the one and all this stuff. The TD (hemma) told him there is no rule against that, but morro kept whining, next thing I knew they weren't letting me rack my own in my match in a rack your own tournament. lol. They had changed their initial ruling because he kept whining (and because he's morro i guess). I sat in my chair and never said a word, that is my "thing"... I don't like to get verbal too much during a match (mistake??). It really got to me and I dogged it and lost and was so upset at myself for letting that guy get in my head. I realized when I was driving home I really should have asked for my money back for not letting me rack my own, but I was just too mad at myself to even think. I always felt it was more my mistake than his (my thing is I assume guys are going to move on me, so I need to be ready of course).

For the record I think morro is a super good guy, I just feel he thinks giving yourself a good rack is cheating somehow... so him and I disagree there.

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As long as you're going to cry like you stuck yourself with a barbed hook I'll tell you a story about a guy here. His name was Frederick Hess but he was known as "Fast Freddy". He was playing in a 9-Ball tourney one day and this layout came up. Just before he got down to shoot the 7 ball he noticed his opponent had turned around for a second. Freddy shot the 7 ball in and knocked the 8 ball in the side with his hand and played perfect shapes on the 9 ball. He was down shooting the 9 when his oppo turned around and went crazy, knowing that Freddy could not have made the 8 anywhere. I don't remember the resolution of the conflict but it took awhile.

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Hey who told you about that? Fred or the guy he was playing? I wouldn't be supprised If fred told you after it happened.He was so funny and such a good con that you had to just laugh at him.I laugh at him every time I see him.

First time I ran into him,he trapped me into giving him the 7ball but just so happened It was on some 4+8s that I would bet I break and runout on everytime.He didn't like it and I busted him That's when he took me on the road.I was about 17 or 18 I think.He had just come off of the road doing trickshots with that Jerry guy from canada.I got that Jerry guy too a few weeks later.Fred might have sicked him on me.Fun times back then
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Old 06-02-2012, 01:19 PM
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Hey who told you about that? Fred or the guy he was playing? I wouldn't be supprised If fred told you after it happened.He was so funny and such a good con that you had to just laugh at him.I laugh at him every time I see him.

First time I ran into him,he trapped me into giving him the 7ball but just so happened It was on some 4+8s that I would bet I break and runout on everytime.He didn't like it and I busted him That's when he took me on the road.I was about 17 or 18 I think.He had just come off of the road doing trickshots with that Jerry guy from canada.I got that Jerry guy too a few weeks later.Fred might have sicked him on me.Fun times back then
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Really enjoyed the writings. Didn't really know you were such a great story teller. The anecdote about the guy who grabbed up the cue ball made ME mad thinking about it. That's when a guy would be in danger with me. He could really get the butt end across his head as hard as I could swing, and that's really hard...
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Really enjoyed the writings. Didn't really know you were such a great story teller. The anecdote about the guy who grabbed up the cue ball made ME mad thinking about it. That's when a guy would be in danger with me. He could really get the butt end across his head as hard as I could swing, and that's really hard...
Thanks but I'm not. I almost went back to edit that to say that it was about to get ugly.I really wish he would have done that move around here on my home turff.It wouldn't have turned out so good for him. I can swing it pretty good myself.

I wish I could write better but I was in the poolroom instead of school.I can read good though! Peace out dude.John B.
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