Triple Smart
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Will he be on a level with Ronnie Allen in 30 yrs or will he fade away as being remembered as a good player?
What are your opinions?
What are your opinions?
We'll know in thirty years. The gambling halls that used to exist across the country no longer exist and with TV, streaming, a players face gets known. You could say Scott is known. Scott also doesn't have that abrasive attitude of RA's. He is as imaginative with his game and he is learning to play a moving game as well as his "power" one pocket. Scott I believe does not want to spend all his days hustling in pool rooms, he has a greater design for his life.
Will he be on a level with Ronnie Allen in 30 yrs or will he fade away as being remembered as a good player?
What are your opinions?
You are triple smart and axing me?
I plead da fifth.
Will he be on a level with Ronnie Allen in 30 yrs or will he fade away as being remembered as a good player?
What are your opinions?
Well i was only double smart until i joined this forum ��
I cannot find the middle finger Emoji for the life of me....lol good oneWait a minute. Are you really Scott Frost? There is a resemblance.
I think he is too busy NOT taking any of the responsibility for why he lost. He wants to blame it on rolls, luck and gravity or the curvature of the earth or everything BUT himself.
No offense intended, but when you talk about a great player and will he be considered as one of the all time greats X number of years from now -- it's an exercise in futility. First, and again, I mean no disrespect, but it doesn't matter what the player thinks of himself as it relates to everyone else thinks. Minnesota Fats thought, without question, claimed, believed, told everyone, etc., that he was the greatest player who ever lived. And, he told you immediately after getting beat soundly by someone, LOL.
Second, there has been a massive global rise in the community of pool players and where they are coming from. The community, geographically, is much larger. Not to oversimplify, but it used to be a "domestic" game for the most part, and has now evolved into global. In an analogous fashion, look at the NHL -- going from a "Canadian" landscape to a more global one in the rise of the European community of players. That said, who knows what the next 30 years will hold. We could see many players come along, and that could certainly change the standing/stature of a "great" we see today. One could go from a standout great of today to being one of many, or not as good as many more to come.
No offense intended, but when you talk about a great player and will he be considered as one of the all time greats X number of years from now -- it's an exercise in futility. First, and again, I mean no disrespect, but it doesn't matter what the player thinks of himself as it relates to everyone else thinks. Minnesota Fats thought, without question, claimed, believed, told everyone, etc., that he was the greatest player who ever lived. And, he told you immediately after getting beat soundly by someone, LOL.
Second, there has been a massive global rise in the community of pool players and where they are coming from. The community, geographically, is much larger. Not to oversimplify, but it used to be a "domestic" game for the most part, and has now evolved into global. In an analogous fashion, look at the NHL -- going from a "Canadian" landscape to a more global one in the rise of the European community of players. That said, who knows what the next 30 years will hold. We could see many players come along, and that could certainly change the standing/stature of a "great" we see today. One could go from a standout great of today to being one of many, or not as good as many more to come.
I agree with you on the big picture. One thing...I don't think Fatty actually believed his own B.S. It is a very effective way to find and get the action. I mean when you declare loudly that you are the best and have never been beat, everybody in the room wants to prove you wrong. You'll get a game. I actually talked to him right after (Well to be honest it wasn't right after he got beat. It was right after I saw the tape and I know it was delayed because he was back home) one of his TV matches with Mosconi. They had played 9-ball among other games and for once he actually beat Mosconi with a 3 cushion carom off the 4 ball. Anyway, after the match Mosconi refused to shake Fatty's extended hand. I called him at home and asked him what that was all about and he said, "It don't mean nothin'. Ya undersand? This man is the greatest pool player that ever picked up a cue but he's a straight pool player. They're all a little funny. I'm not a straight pool player. The last time I played straight pool was in 1932 and I played Andrew Ponzi to 100 points for 100 dollars a game. It was 100 and out--100 and out back and forth for 9 hours and we broke dead even after 9 hours. Ya understnand?" Fatty was a showman and he knew it. I really wish I had been around in the 1930's when he was at the top of his game. I first learned about him in the 1950's when the Detroit Free Press had an article on him about his visit to Detroit. I later was to see him on his TV show that featured him playing movie stars. Believe it or not, I learned a lot from him watching that show. He was a really good guy and like a lot of us he was quite human. Humans are never perfect.
I would say that Fats thought Mosconi was a stone cold sucker.
Fats did and said whatever he wanted, most of his life.
Mosconi had The Brunswick Corporation all up in his business all day long every day for most of his .
Just depends which view you prefer.
. Being the best one pocket player in the world will not pay the bills. Being a world class player that nobody knows, will pay the bills. JMO