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Old 08-28-2018, 12:19 AM
Dennis "Whitey" Young Dennis "Whitey" Young is offline
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https://photos.app.goo.gl/FW7Z9yYtfodyReHPAhttps://photos.app.goo.gl/tySjyGWZ8WGpd2E1A
This is a cushion compression shot/ bank shot. I purposely put a gap between the cb and the ob ball of about a 1/16"-1/8" The balls are placed at about the 1/2 diamond and perpendicular to the cushion. The gap is significant for it makes these shots pretty darn hard to make shooting towards the ob to throw the ob ball vs. if the ob was frozen to the cb. Because, with a gap you could easily foul the cue ball shooting towards the ob. If there was no gap then of course you can stroke the cb right through the ob.
The video of the cross corner bank; it is important that you get that reverse spin to take hold and transfer to natural english on the ob ball, so it will actually spin off the banked cushion towards the hole.
I believe it qualifies as a legal bank shot even though I went into a rail first!

Click on the video after it comes up and it will enlarge. The cross corner bank I may of double hit the cb but I do not think so for I then would of sent it down table when using that much right english, plus if you look closely you will see the cue follow through!

Well enjoy this cushion compression bank shot. Not sure where I learned this shot or if I just did it, can not remember for it was to many decades ago. Good luck doing this shot! Whitey

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Old 08-28-2018, 12:32 AM
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Keep the education coming, Whitey. Thanks again!!

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Old 08-28-2018, 08:14 AM
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whitey you commented that you thought this bank would be a legal bank
based on our rules and derby city bank pool rules it would not be
a legal bank
from our rules
3.6 Every shot must be played ball first; no rail-first shots are allowed.
https://www.onepocket.org/BankPoolRules.htm
the derby ciy classic bank pool rules do not allow kick shots
Kick Shots

Kick shots are not allowed.
https://derbycityclassic.com/the-games/
to me whitey you are kicking into the object ball
so based on both sets of rules the bank would not be allowed in a bank pool game
nevertheless
ITS ONE HELLUVA BANK........
thanks for sharing
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Old 08-28-2018, 08:15 AM
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dennis
when i clicked the links above
i saw the cross corner and the 2 rail cross corner but no cross side
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Old 10-19-2018, 02:27 AM
Dennis "Whitey" Young Dennis "Whitey" Young is offline
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Larry,
Thanks for posting the game rules of DCC. I just conversed with Bret Baker, the TD of DCC, and he stated that my cushion compression bank shot would not be allowed in DCC.

Also thanks for posting a OnePocket bank pool game rule writing. I see it was proposed in 2006, and I guess it was never adopted for it is "not" represented in any of the prime headings.

I do not know when Bank Pool was first recognized as a pool game by the BCA. It is not listed at all in my '68 BCA rule book, but is listed in my 2003 BCA rule book. Of which there is no requirements place upon the cue ball before contacting the ob.

Here is how the rule reads; A legally pocketed ball must be "cleanly" banked (i.e. no kisses, combinations, or caroms involving the object ball are permitted). The cue ball may contact the object ball only once on a stroke.

The current CSI rule is not much different. So therefore these rules as written would not cover my Cushion Compression Bank Shot, which is a kick bank shot.

So IMO it is very important, such as in the proposed OP Bank Pool Game Writing, that it states; that the cue ball can not contact a rail or another ob before first contacting the intended called ob.

I further believe this rule whereas the cb must first contact the object ball is a given unwritten rule and thus was somehow omitted all these years until the 2006 proposed OP Bank Pool Writing, good job! thanks, Whitey

A footnote; I see in the alternative OP 2006 Bank Pool Rules, which I would assume are Grady's writings, that it mentions Kicking and banking the ball is allowed and played that way in some parts of the country.

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