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Old 08-27-2019, 10:09 AM
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Scott has been working on his game and has several good results. Is it time for Scott to be considered the best American 1P player or does Tony still hold that title?
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Old 08-27-2019, 10:22 AM
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I guess they need to match up to know for sure
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Old 08-27-2019, 10:25 AM
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Although itís all relative I think Scott is less aggressive in taking OMG shots
(Thatís a good thing ......jmho )
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Old 08-27-2019, 10:32 AM
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I would say Tony still holds that title as he has been and is getting ready to be in big money matches with the best on the world and not only won once but also is getting a lot of momentum lately in people who are favoring him in the upcoming match.

That said, if Scott is playing his game, I don't think Tony can beat him and would love to see that match up as well!
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Old 08-27-2019, 11:08 AM
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I am a Scott and Tony fan, having played both and sweated as many of their money matches as I could. I was there in Las Vegas when Scott won his first big money match (10k) with Keith McCready. I watched Tonyís game jump up faster than any other one pocket player I have played and watched. I was giving him 9/7 when he was young and in no time I was getting 9/7 and did not like it.

If I had to pick one, I would pick Tony because in a long session, his mechanics are better. Richie Florence told me years ago if he saw a flaw in an opponents mechanics, that was a weakness that would show up in a long session. It may not show up in Scottís game spreading it out over a few days, but it is there.

Scottís proved time and time again that if he is not the best, he is right there, and he does this with mechanics that make you wonder.

Off course there are exceptions, and heart and desire are a big part and both of these guys have plenty of that.
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Old 08-27-2019, 12:42 PM
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I am a Scott and Tony fan, having played both and sweated as many of their money matches as I could. I was there in Las Vegas when Scott won his first big money match (10k) with Keith McCready. I watched Tony’s game jump up faster than any other one pocket player I have played and watched. I was giving him 9/7 when he was young and in no time I was getting 9/7 and did not like it.

If I had to pick one, I would pick Tony because in a long session, his mechanics are better. Richie Florence told me years ago if he saw a flaw in an opponents mechanics, that was a weakness that would show up in a long session. It may not show up in Scott’s game spreading it out over a few days, but it is there.

Scott’s proved time and time again that if he is not the best, he is right there, and he does this with mechanics that make you wonder.

Off course there are exceptions, and heart and desire are a big part and both of these guys have plenty of that.
Never one to question Uncle John but SF is hitting them like "Old Scott". Tony still has too much playfulness in his game that he sees stuff that is just a little too aggressive or wishful when maybe it's OK to stall for an inning. When it works it's highlight reel stuff. His ability to work off a straight in ball with his height and knowledge nobody else does as well. Scott also does the little stuff so well and can pull back on the horsepower when the odds are wrong or danger is too high.

If I had to back Tony I would be in rehab in a month. Having said that I love his game and heart.
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Old 08-27-2019, 12:58 PM
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That's a match up I'd really like to see, just watched the Frost vs Smith match.
If Scott played that style against Tony how do you think it would effect the results? Could Tony's offense overcome Scott's defense?
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Old 08-27-2019, 06:45 PM
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That's a match up I'd really like to see, just watched the Frost vs Smith match.
If Scott played that style against Tony how do you think it would effect the results? Could Tony's offense overcome Scott's defense?
I think Scottís offense and defense is a bit higher than Tonyís. Tony comes with the impossible more than anyone, when itís working.
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Scott has been working on his game and has several good results. Is it time for Scott to be considered the best American 1P player or does Tony still hold that title?
I'd still give that title to Tony.

I've been saying since Buffalo's that Scott's been playing well but I still don't think we've seen enough to say he's where he was at 7 or 8 years ago.

He played well against Danny, but Danny also didn't do himself any favors that match.

And I wouldn't put a lot of stock into a race to 5 exhibition match and winning by two.

I really hope he gets back in there and stirs up some big stuff. I love his game.
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Old 08-27-2019, 08:18 PM
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I'd still give that title to Tony.

I've been saying since Buffalo's that Scott's been playing well but I still don't think we've seen enough to say he's where he was at 7 or 8 years ago.

He played well against Danny, but Danny also didn't do himself any favors that match.

And I wouldn't put a lot of stock into a race to 5 exhibition match and winning by two.

I really hope he gets back in there and stirs up some big stuff. I love his game.
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Don't kid yourself. Dennis hates to lose. The only argument I would make is a smart guy would lay down to possibly improve his odds (wagerwise) against Tony...but I'm not saying or even implying that. Dennis did not look happy.
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