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this is one where you guys will have to decide the best shot because im sure you dont want to shoot what josh shot.....:eek:
its josh shot
WWYD
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knife the 12 toward your hole and carom in the dangling stripe??? Okay, not really, lol.

I guess I might shoot the 4-ball at Joey's pocket with a little speed -- hoping to make and/or chase to clear his pocket without opening up any more balls, and follow the cue ball to the bottom rail.
 

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this was my first thought. actually i like this shot here if the 12 goes.

Steve was kidding on the square, I think. I like the shot as much or more than the other options, granted their is some possible problems with the shot but there's also a pretty decent upside, unlike any other option. With any option that I see other than cutting the 12ball you figure to be fighting an up hill battle, so if you're striking balls decently cutting at the 12ball is probably the right shot in this situation.

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I like hitting the 4 hard into the 10 (ball nearest to opponents pocket) with center ball.
Making the 4 and 10 ball will go towards my side of table.
Using center cue ball should force forward a bit. Trying to stick it frozen to the long rail.
The 4 doesn't have to go in and can hit off frozen ball to long rail and cross to your side if youre lucky.
 

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I'd probably hit the 12 almost half ball on its right, sending the 12 to the back of my side of the stack, opening up some balls for me. Float the cue ball inside the 10 ball, hopefully trapping it between the ball and rail. Obviously care should be taken not to scratch.

Curious to see what Josh did here...

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Based on the 12 ball shot selection it is obvious that people saw and remember Danny Smith slicing a similar 2 ball in late in his match with C. Gentile. Danny's shot was even a little more difficult. Good luck.
 

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joey grayjosh roberts/smokin aces #1

Based on the 12 ball shot selection it is obvious that people saw and remember Danny Smith slicing a similar 2 ball in late in his match with C. Gentile. Danny's shot was even a little more difficult. Good luck.


Respectfully, I can't remember what I had for dinner last night, let alone a shot that I never saw. (I fell asleep early in that match)

I have just always been a fan of a two way shot like this where, even if I don't pocket the ball, I am clearing out a problem by my opponents hole.
 

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I guess I might shoot the 4-ball at Joey's pocket with a little speed -- hoping to make and/or chase to clear his pocket without opening up any more balls, and follow the cue ball to the bottom rail.

steve this is the best shot to me looking to hit the 10 ball on the way in knocking it away
to my eye the 10 is sort of on the tittie and caroming into it after cutting the 12
id be concerned it would jaw up and stay by his pocket
any shot would have been better than what josh shot
he hit the green ball full in the face as a stop shot...:confused:
after the balls moved around joey had an easy shot at his pocket..:eek::eek:
obviously he hit it bad for whatever he had in mind
maybe someone can imagine and tell me
WHAT WAS HE THINKING???:D
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Looks like he was trying to draw off the edge of it and make the 10 which is one shot i thought of, but he hit it full in the face killing whitey.
 

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Maybe he was trying to combo the 4 ball (whatever ball that is) into his hole??? That's taking aggression a little too far.:rolleyes:

The younger guys seem to take a Gatling gun approach to 1P. They both just start firing away, and after the smoke clears, whoever has 8 in his hole wins!

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steve this is the best shot to me looking to hit the 10 ball on the way in knocking it away
to my eye the 10 is sort of on the tittie and caroming into it after cutting the 12
id be concerned it would jaw up and stay by his pocket
any shot would have been better than what josh shot
he hit the green ball full in the face as a stop shot...:confused:
after the balls moved around joey had an easy shot at his pocket..:eek::eek:
obviously he hit it bad for whatever he had in mind
maybe someone can imagine and tell me
WHAT WAS HE THINKING???:D
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He was probably thinking the stripe will carom off the solid (ugh, those colors) and take out the 10. I considered that shot but it didn't look like it was there.

Or maybe he thought he'd just make the combo and run out :eek:

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With the shot, you have to either: (1) go all out and try to pocket a ball; or (2) do what it takes to remove the hanging ball to thwart a runout. I like the latter here utilizing the 4.
 

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Maybe he was trying to combo the 4 ball (whatever ball that is) into his hole??? That's taking aggression a little too far.:rolleyes:

The younger guys seem to take a Gatling gun approach to 1P. They both just start firing away, and after the smoke clears, whoever has 8 in his hole wins!

~Doc

That's what he tried to do Doc. :eek: Yes he badly misjudged the shot, I say this because he drew the cue ball to freeze in the stack. If you're going to draw the cue ball and stick in the stack, then you have to be confident that you're going to make the ball because you're not playing position for yourself, you're playing it for your opponent. He missed it on the heavy side because he had a mental lapse. I say this because he missed it badly, by putting too much attention on the cue ball and not on the OB. Mental lapse. I have them often, i'm lucky Joey Gray doesn't follow me.

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Lets see. If he was playing to make the combo he had NO CHANCE to take out the stripe by Joeys pocket AND if he makes the combo he gets 1 ball!! Now if he was trying to take out the stripe by Joeys hole with the 10 ball off the 6 ball...where the hell did he think the 6 ball was going to go? 2 rails into the stack FOR SURE. The 4 ball off the stripe by Joeys hole was the shot. The only other shot is cutting the 12 ball and trying to take out the ball by Joeys hole with the cue ball but that is real risky also... This thread shouldn't be WWYD it should have been called... SWEAT THIS HORSESHIT SHOT
 

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That's what he tried to do Doc. :eek: Yes he badly misjudged the shot, I say this because he drew the cue ball to freeze in the stack. If you're going to draw the cue ball and stick in the stack, then you have to be confident that you're going to make the ball because you're not playing position for yourself, you're playing it for your opponent. He missed it on the heavy side because he had a mental lapse. I say this because he missed it badly, by putting too much attention on the cue ball and not on the OB. Mental lapse. I have them often, i'm lucky Joey Gray doesn't follow me.

Dr. Bill

Why the hell would he draw the cue ball to freeze to the stack if he was trying to make the combo? He either sells completely out or gets 1 ball:frus
 

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With the shot, you have to either: (1) go all out and try to pocket a ball; or (2) do what it takes to remove the hanging ball to thwart a runout. I like the latter here utilizing the 4.
Dan, going for the 12ball and taking out the 10ball is an option for the right players. Obviously not for all, however, the player that confidently feels that he can hit the edge of the 12ball, fits nicely into that option. Yes, it's a riskier option, but it carries a much higher reward then the other options. With that understanding, for the right players it looks to be the right shot. For players who shy away from shots like that, or even have doubts with playing ..thin cut shots that are just moderately aggressive, would tell me that that option is not on their menu.

For those who rather play a more controlled shot, like taking out the 10ball with the 4ball will be trying to grind back to a good position, however, you're going to be playing that type of game with a bad cue ball. But then again there are a lot more players that would play the latter because their wanting to stretch the game out.:D It's more fun to play longer games, I agree, that's why we should stay away from champions.

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OR.... maybe he just shot up in the air AS USUAL and this one didn't work out. Unbelievable

That wasn't nice. I've noticed that lately you've been a little out of control, you need to make a bad game and play loose.:D I mean that in the most sincerest of ways. I'm possibly going to travel soon and Fl. is one of my possible destinations for enjoyment. There's the casino "Hard Rock" and then there is Gulf Stream for an afternoon. The food is fantastic, and all that's left is a sucker, besides me.:)

Oh, I forgot you quit playing, didn't you? My bad, just bet on me Bert, I can't lose.

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QUOTE=onepockethacker;149340]Why the hell would he draw the cue ball to freeze to the stack if he was trying to make the combo? He either sells completely out or gets 1 ball:frus
That's what he tried to do Doc. Yes he badly misjudged the shot, I say this because he drew the cue ball to freeze in the stack. If you're going to draw the cue ball and stick in the stack, then you have to be confident that you're going to make the ball because you're not playing position for yourself, you're playing it for your opponent. He missed it on the heavy side because he had a mental lapse. I say this because he missed it badly, by putting too much attention on the cue ball and not on the OB. Mental lapse. I have them often, i'm lucky Joey Gray doesn't follow me.

Dr. Bill

I can't believe you asked me a question I answered in my post. Look up above for why I think that.

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