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Old 07-18-2019, 08:46 PM
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combo bank. it doesnt have to be cut as much as it looks. you can bring cue down across behind the 1 and actually get out from here with not much down side. or leave cue more safe if so desired.

plus since ghost cant remember which pocket he has he might even shoot your 1 ball in the hole for you.
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Old 07-18-2019, 08:59 PM
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You're in the end game and you're in an uncomfortable position...

Steve's shot --- Steve's pocket is at the bottom left --- ball score is 5-4, Ghost ahead, both going to 8 --- the cueball is frozen to the rail --- the 10-11 combo is wired for me...

Consider this game vital = that you're hill-hill here in a Derby City match --- you don't want to leave your opponent a shot....

...one "fraught with peril" option >>> with the cueball frozen to the rail, and the existing angle, to thin the 10 to get back down-table without running into the 1ball would take a perfect/difficult hit........so then, wcyd/wwyd ----->
Im just shooting straight into the 1 ball moving it to my side and leaving the cueball close to where the 1 ball is now. It doesn't look like the 10 or 11 bank and if he wants to shoot that 8 ball bank, I don't mind because 1 its not easy and 2 he sells out the combo. This shot is simple and I feel effective. K
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Old 07-18-2019, 10:07 PM
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wcyd/wwyd ----->
I can't find anything better than taking a foul by rolling the CB down the bottom rail toward his pocket.... maybe just above his pocket so I can take it all the way to the long rail.
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Old 07-19-2019, 02:56 AM
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ghost wants us to find a safe shot here and not hit the bank.

so the safe shot is to hit the 8 two rails near the 3 and leave him on the rail without a viable shot.
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Old 07-19-2019, 04:21 AM
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I would cut the 13 in and put the cueball back in the area where it is now.
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Old 07-19-2019, 06:20 AM
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Newkirks shot only trying to move the 10 and 11 to my side. The angle looks right to put the cue ball on the first diamond by the 13. You want to cut the 8 from there go for it.

You don’t have to hit this hard for it to work out.

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I like the idea of this shot. Although I would be concerned about how much I had to cut 11 to get it to actually cross to my side and the limited energy transfer to the 10. The views are quite different between pic 1 and 2. In pic 1 it appears the proper cut angle on the 11 has the cb hitting just below the side pocket. If you are trying to leave the cb on the first diamond I think the 10 will hit just left of middle diamond on the end rail possibly leaving a shot for your opponent.

This is a creative shot but I think it is trickier than it looks.
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Old 07-19-2019, 08:23 AM
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I am not taking a foul with the score and layout.

I really only see two viable options, both include taking away the 10 11 combo for my opponent.

1) cut the 11 and run two rails back up the table to where the cueball is now. I might put a hair of left hand english on this, but not much because I am pinned to the rail

OR

2) cut the 11 and run three rails up the table to where it is now. You have to hit this harder than option 1 and there is risk of colliding with 11 on way back up.

This is a pretty standard 3c type of shot.

My preference is option 1 assuming I can hit this without moving the 10 ball.
I want to leave my opponent doubled up on the 10 3 and the 11 is also going to block some lanes.
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Old 07-19-2019, 10:27 AM
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Slight clip of the 11 ball....11 will hit the 10 and move both balls too the left, cue ball into the 8. Your close to your work, clipping the 11 ball breaks up the dead combo.
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Old 07-19-2019, 11:42 AM
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I would study this if there is enough space between those two balls to do this.

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Old 07-19-2019, 11:50 AM
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Wish I could diagram it like you frank. That is the shot I was talking about.

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