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Old 08-21-2019, 07:44 PM
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2 rail the 12 towards the corner
3 rail the cue ball back to where it sits
about a 4 oclock english and 1/4 ball hit should work
have to hit it hard enough to get the cue back to his pocket
otherwise you leave a 3 railer on the 1
Larry, would you please diagram this shot, I'm not seeing it. Thanks.


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Please tell me you drilled the 4 rail bank on the 12
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Damn Mike. I didnít think anyone else knew that shot lol. A road agent showed it to me last year. Crazy shot!
And unoperro or Mitch, would you please diagram this shot also, I'm not seeing it. Thanks.

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Old 08-21-2019, 08:33 PM
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Instead of 3 railing the CB and turning it loose a bit, for me, I think I like this better if I can do it.

Shoot the 12, 2 rails over to your side and bring the CB down table, hopefully doubling it up.



I dont think you will get the best of this as it is to easy to move both balls to your side and draw to the back rail
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Old 08-21-2019, 08:42 PM
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Larry, would you please diagram this shot, I'm not seeing it. Thanks.






And unoperro or Mitch, would you please diagram this shot also, I'm not seeing it. Thanks.

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at this time of night dont hold me to the lines but this is the gist of the shot
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Old 08-21-2019, 10:11 PM
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Larry, would you please diagram this shot, I'm not seeing it. Thanks.













And unoperro or Mitch, would you please diagram this shot also, I'm not seeing it. Thanks.



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Video please.


I know it looks impossible but I have seen it made and made it myself. The key is to stroke through the ball hard with outside English (Right English in this case. Seems wrong but thatís what it calls for). It is not an easy shot lol. I bet whitey could make it. 😊.

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Old 08-21-2019, 10:24 PM
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at this time of night dont hold me to the lines but this is the gist of the shot
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Yes, of course I know that shot, that's a different story. But you posted: "3 rail the cue ball back to where it sits" That's what I couldn't understand, that you were going to bring the cueball back to where it originally sat.

P.S. I saw that several of the better member-players (Billy wincardona, Tom Wirth, J. Hendy, Hardmix, JTompilot, etc.) were logged on a little while ago. I was curious to see their choice here, but they didn't chime in. Maybe they will.

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Old 08-21-2019, 10:59 PM
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I know it looks impossible but I have seen it made and made it myself. The key is to stroke through the ball hard with outside English (Right English in this case. Seems wrong but thatís what it calls for). It is not an easy shot lol. I bet whitey could make it. 😊.

That's the shot . I am sure it's on the beard video?

I first saw this shot in 1990. I have made it in a game (once) but it doesn't have to be shot to make it- as Billy would say " reposition....."
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Old 08-22-2019, 05:22 AM
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2 rail the 12 towards the corner
3 rail the cue ball back to where it ( edit...to be cleat where the 12 sits ) sits
about a 4 oclock english and 1/4 ball hit should work
have to hit it hard enough to get the cue back to his pocket
otherwise you leave a 3 railer on the 1
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Yes, of course I know that shot, that's a different story. But you posted: "3 rail the cue ball back to where it sits" That's what I couldn't understand, that you were going to bring the cueball back to where it originally sat.

P.S. I saw that several of the better member-players (Billy wincardona, Tom Wirth, J. Hendy, Hardmix, JTompilot, etc.) were logged on a little while ago. I was curious to see their choice here, but they didn't chime in. Maybe they will.

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i cleaned up my post oldschool
nice of you to drop in to say hello......
hope all is well
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Old 08-22-2019, 08:24 AM
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Yes, of course I know that shot, that's a different story. But you posted: "3 rail the cue ball back to where it sits" That's what I couldn't understand, that you were going to bring the cueball back to where it originally sat.

P.S. I saw that several of the better member-players (Billy wincardona, Tom Wirth, J. Hendy, Hardmix, JTompilot, etc.) were logged on a little while ago. I was curious to see their choice here, but they didn't chime in. Maybe they will.

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I was a little confused at first on the post but then realized when he said "where it sits", he was referring to the CB returning to where it (12 ball) sits..
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Old 08-22-2019, 08:26 AM
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I dont think you will get the best of this as it is to easy to move both balls to your side and draw to the back rail
Maybe so, but I feel I have more control over the balls on that shot.

I am also afraid of the kiss doing the 3 railer, either shortly after contacting the 12 down in his quadrant, or in the upper right hand corner, it looks close to being a kiss which is why I chose the shot I posted, icbw
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Old 08-22-2019, 09:05 AM
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Maybe so, but I feel I have more control over the balls on that shot.

I am also afraid of the kiss doing the 3 railer, either shortly after contacting the 12 down in his quadrant, or in the upper right hand corner, it looks close to being a kiss which is why I chose the shot I posted, icbw
I shot this several times
Half ball hit and just side spin or side spin with a little follow resulted in a double kiss
Interesting the double kiss Happened most often as the cue came off the third rail
1/4 ball or so with 4 oíclock beat the kiss and left good results
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