Top 10 one pocket players

Jlincoln

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Here is my list in order:

1. Alex P
2. Scott Frost
3. Efren
4. Tony Chohan
5. Dennis Orcullo
6. Justin Hall
7. SVB
8. Danny Smith
9. Josh Roberts.
10. Evan Lunda (Very young kid about 21-23, plays jam up... does anybody know him and agree he is in the top 10?)
 

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Here is my list in order:

1. Alex P
2. Scott Frost
3. Efren
4. Tony Chohan
5. Dennis Orcullo
6. Justin Hall
7. SVB
8. Danny Smith
9. Josh Roberts.
10. Evan Lunda (Very young kid about 21-23, plays jam up... does anybody know him and agree he is in the top 10?)


i think bustamante would merit consideration as well - has been as solid as anyone last few years. deuel, bergman, gray, daulton could all warrant being on a top 10 list at any given time, imo. some degenerate bank pool player :p who slums around on this site has probably beaten at one point or another most of those guys also....

lunda plays good. real good. i don't think he's above the other guys listed (yet).

my thoughts are based upon tourney play. for the $ frost and chohan gotta be up there (disqualifies orcollo on principle :heh).

:)
 

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Here is my list in order:

1. Alex P
2. Scott Frost
3. Efren
4. Tony Chohan
5. Dennis Orcullo
6. Justin Hall
7. SVB
8. Danny Smith
9. Josh Roberts.
10. Evan Lunda (Very young kid about 21-23, plays jam up... does anybody know him and agree he is in the top 10?)

I know him - have played him - have played his father :eek: - have watched him play Ike....he plays very good, but for sure not in the top ten...just to name a few that belong on a top ten list ahead of him: Justin Bergman, Shannon, double JJ, Joey Gray, Francisco, Chris G. Richie Rich, John Schmidt, Corey Deuel, Sylver (if he's still playing), etc.
 
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I know him - have played him - have played his father :eek: - have watched him play Ike....he plays very good, but for sure not in the top ten...just to name a few that belong on a top ten list ahead of him: Justin Bergman, Shannon, double JJ, Joey Gray, Francisco, Chris G. Richie Rich, John Schmidt, Corey Deuel, Sylver (if he's still playing), etc.

I agree Ghost.

I've played Evan many times. Very talented player but more like top 25.
 

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Here is my list in order:

1. Alex P
2. Scott Frost
3. Efren
4. Tony Chohan
5. Dennis Orcullo
6. Justin Hall
7. SVB
8. Danny Smith
9. Josh Roberts.
10. Evan Lunda (Very young kid about 21-23, plays jam up... does anybody know him and agree he is in the top 10?)

Did you play Evan when you were in Detroit?
 

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Bergman is in there, at least beating Chohan out, maybe others. And no Shannon?!? Jeremy Jones?
Corey Deuel? Darren Appleton?
 
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Bergman is in there, at least beating Chohan out, maybe others. And no Shannon?!? Jeremy Jones?

chohan put it on him last summer.....

little justin is still a very young man. he will be the best onepocket player in the world in a few years (he's already in the conversation). that dude is just a natural. :)
 

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chohan put it on him last summer.....

little justin is still a very young man. he will be the best onepocket player in the world in a few years (he's already in the conversation). that dude is just a natural. :)


That will depend upon what's between the ears. Not raw intelligence, but drive, discipline, killer instinct, developing even better judgment about what NOT to shoot, etc.; avoiding the pitfalls inherent in being young, on the road, and having a pocket full of cash.

Lots of strong young players between 20 and 35... (When I see guys 35 they look like High Schoolers to me -- at my age they definitely qualify as "young" :D )
 

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That will depend upon what's between the ears. Not raw intelligence, but drive, discipline, killer instinct, developing even better judgment about what NOT to shoot, etc.; avoiding the pitfalls inherent in being young, on the road, and having a pocket full of cash.

Lots of strong young players between 20 and 35... (When I see guys 35 they look like High Schoolers to me -- at my age they definitely qualify as "young" :D )

i hear you. i remember talking about this last summer (kind of....:D). about the kid that plays out of olathe you had high hopes for....don't look like he is going to get there.... not only do i believe in the "lizard brain," i believe in the "it" factor. imho, he has "it." we shall see......
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That will depend upon what's between the ears. Not raw intelligence, but drive, discipline, killer instinct, developing even better judgment about what NOT to shoot, etc.; avoiding the pitfalls inherent in being young, on the road, and having a pocket full of cash.

Lots of strong young players between 20 and 35... (When I see guys 35 they look like High Schoolers to me -- at my age they definitely qualify as "young" :D )

The one pocket I have seen outta Bergman is flawless, old school strategy sprinkled with the new school, eight-and-out offense. If Chohan got him, he must've shot the lights out.
 

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Bergman is the underdog against Chohan

That's interesting. I think your judgment on this is good, but I would have thought it was the other way. (Chohan has seemed to me to be off-and-on since his long European vacation.)

You must like him against Richie, giving up the break.
 

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Bergman is the underdog against Chohan

That's interesting. I think your judgment on this is good, but I would have thought it was the other way. (Chohan has seemed to me to be off-and-on since his long European vacation.)

me too, john. maybe playing 10 ahead for 72 hours.....(at this time anyway)

but a better stick - race to five or seven - i don't see it. :sorry

:)
 

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Guess I'd have to see it. I only have five matches or so of each player, and I guess it is possible these do not represent the players' average abilities.

If Chohan is indeed that much over Bergman, seems like Richie is doomed.

The break is a huge spot for Tony to give up. He might have the best one pocket break in the world.. Tony is top 5 in one pocket right now. He has all the tools and most importantly KNOWS when and how to use them. Meanwhile anyone in the world can get action with Justin HALL in Cape Coral... thats really strong. Its like anything else in life everyone has their favorites.. Who really knows.
 

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The break is a huge spot for Tony to give up. He might have the best one pocket break in the world.. Tony is top 5 in one pocket right now. He has all the tools and most importantly KNOWS when and how to use them. Meanwhile anyone in the world can get action with Justin HALL in Cape Coral... thats really strong. Its like anything else in life everyone has their favorites.. Who really knows.

freddy used to say that giving up the break would wear on the the person giving the spot. since every game you have to come from behind to win (paraphrased)
R.I.P Freddy
 

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freddy used to say that giving up the break would wear on the the person giving the spot. since every game you have to come from behind to win (paraphrased)
R.I.P Freddy

Also Larry the value of the break differs if a players scratches or sells out all the time or never puts down a good break... then the break isnt worth shit.. the flip side of the coin is if the person has a tremendous break then giving it up is a huge spot.. the normal thinking is the break is worth a ball and a half lets say but in Tonys case its worth more..
 

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Here is my list in order:

1. Alex P
2. Scott Frost
3. Efren
4. Tony Chohan
5. Dennis Orcullo
6. Justin Hall
7. SVB
8. Danny Smith
9. Josh Roberts.
10. Evan Lunda (Very young kid about 21-23, plays jam up... does anybody know him and agree he is in the top 10?)

After seeing how badly Alex played at the 1p Make it Happen, and last night at the U.S. Open, he's not #1. He didn't win 1 single match at the make it happen. If there's a shot clock, Alex falls apart. Efren won and played as good as anyone can play 1p, he's #1 in my opinion since at any time he can bring it at a level above mere mortals.
 

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With all our focus on 1p breaks, how does RR's measure up? I have never much cared for his brash attitude and chirpy nature, and might (perhaps wrongly) discount his game.
 

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I know Tony is playing great, but giving up the break is strong when you are dealing with a guy who really knows how to protect his pocket. Like most One pocket specialists, Richie's break is good. He is familiar with that table and likes to play long sessions. When I saw Tony in New Orleans, he looked like he faded when Cliff and then Jeremy started grinding on him and making him play an up table game.

If Richie plays tight and makes Tony earn the games, he can win. If he tries to gun sling with Tony, he'll lose easy. I think the key is if Richie comes in patient with the plan of wearing Tony down and making him earn the games the hard way. Tony didn't look like he had the best stamina when we saw him in May, but that was a while ago.

There is no doubt Tony is a gifted player and has a ton of firepower. Keeping the TRex in his cage is quite a challenge, but Richie definitely has the knowledge and ability to win with this spot. Taking Tony's break away might be enough.
 
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