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Old 10-29-2018, 12:58 PM
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it is so stupid easy to correct. just tell the slow players that they are welcome to come and watch but not play in the tournament.

just like you do on a forum with those that ruin it for all the rest.

and have a tournament director with balls to make players speed up or be disqualified. then everyone has fun.
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Old 10-29-2018, 01:11 PM
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Slow 1pkt players wow thats gotta be rough
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Old 10-29-2018, 01:54 PM
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There are SO MANY apps for this, with 98% of people having, 'smart phones,' they could easily be used in, 1P events. Major events the refs handle the program. In minor ones, the players do. When your inning is over, you go back to your seat, hit a button, and your opponents time starts! The only issue for, per inning shot-clock is, when a player is running balls! The seated player, on his or her honor, would have to stop the clock during that time! And resume it when stops running balls! Doesn't sound like the shot clock method is the right one for 1P, IMHO!
A per game shot clock would work just fine. Forget about per shot or per inning clocks...too much effort required to keep on top of it. Time per game is simple: you just have to remember to hit the button when you finish your turn so the clock starts to run on the other player.
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Old 10-29-2018, 01:57 PM
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A per game shot clock would work just fine. Forget about per shot or per inning clocks...too much effort required to keep on top of it. Time per game is simple: you just have to remember to hit the button when you finish your turn so the clock starts to run on the other player.
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https://www.online-stopwatch.com/chess-clock/
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Old 10-29-2018, 02:31 PM
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I watched the Seniors on line, but I have a question did it start on Thursday or Friday? It seems as the tournament (members & seniors) is winding on down matches take longer. Possibly fatigue and style of play or a combination of both is an attributing factor.

In our thread on RR play, I errored on the side of caution by having the players play each other "two games" and not three games each. I was concerned about player fatigue, enough time to finish the event, and for players to have enough social time to match up and other wise, for I believe that is a huge part of these get togethers.

From the Seniors event we can take the total games played divided by the total number of playing hours, and then we can come up with an average of how long each game took. This can be deciphered off of the bracket, for each match recorded the number of games. This will be important knowledge going into the Members Only Tournament. But we will need input as to when play started each day and when play finished each day, and where we were at on the bracket at the end of each day. This might be hard to acquire! Whitey
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Old 10-29-2018, 02:32 PM
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I don't have any magic solutions to the time problem - there are already enough people posting about that. But - I have to say this - before preparing another great tournament like this one, especially for players over the age of sixty-five, the solution must be in hand and guaranteed. As a spectator, I left Bogie's at one pm Sunday so that I could get back to Baton Rouge before dark. There were eight players left and their matches were well under way. Today I find that fifteen hours later (4 am) the last two agreed to split the money!! I don't think there should be any possibility that this could happen again. Period.
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Old 10-29-2018, 02:47 PM
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A per game shot clock would work just fine. Forget about per shot or per inning clocks...too much effort required to keep on top of it. Time per game is simple: you just have to remember to hit the button when you finish your turn so the clock starts to run on the other player.
I think if you use a shot-clock as a per game time limit, then you need a, 'point award system' to determine a, Win, draw (tied ball count at end of time limit) a win by time default and loss. possibly w=2 pts. draw by time=1 point, win by time=.05 points and loss=0.
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Old 10-29-2018, 03:22 PM
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I think if you use a shot-clock as a per game time limit, then you need a, 'point award system' to determine a, Win, draw (tied ball count at end of time limit) a win by time default and loss. possibly w=2 pts. draw by time=1 point, win by time=.05 points and loss=0.
Respectfully, the counter to this is; if a player is ahead on ball count they then can slow down play tell time runs out! Whitey
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Old 10-29-2018, 03:31 PM
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Respectfully, the counter to this is; if a player is ahead on ball count they then can slow down play tell time runs out! Whitey
Yes, if that occurs, that player ONLY receives 1/2 point for that win, NOT a full 2 points! Winners of matches that appear to be tied in W's will be determined by the TOTAL points for ALL the matches if brackets are used as the format!
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Old 10-29-2018, 04:15 PM
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Today I find that fifteen hours later (4 am) the last two agreed to split the money!! I don't think there should be any possibility that this could happen again. Period.
Years ago when there was a playoff on the PGA Tour the players involved in the playoff agreed amongst themselves to divide the first and second money equally before the first playoff hole. Itís since been outlawed to do this in playoffs. It should be outlawed in pool. It takes away from the competitiveness. Pool could learn a lot from other sports especially golf. It needs a governing body with complete aythority to make and enforce rules. It is too fractured by having too many leagues and sponsors that controll the sport with no consistency.
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