Howz about this one?

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Another situation in which I was stumped. I have pocket A and needed one...and a shot.

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Skin said:
Another situation in which I was stumped. I have pocket A and needed one...and a shot.

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I only learned this shot this past year on this site. I like it.
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Skin said:
Another situation in which I was stumped. I have pocket A and needed one...and a shot.

Skin

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Cowboy Dennis said:
I only learned this shot this past year on this site. I like it.
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You beat me by 10 seconds Cowboy.
 

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maybe by going rail first and knocking the eight across near the back hole on his side with the cue ball not going far after it hits it. his next shot will start the process of you being first to make the offensive move on the ball.
 

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blackeee said:
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Is there a law that requires one to take a flier here? Maybe they passed one while I was asleep ... before these damn dogs woke me up barking at the leaf that moved outside at 0300.

I really see no need to do anything but keep at least 1 ball out of play completely and fart around with the other one trying to create something for myself (something better than that kick-bank .... my name is not TRex).

And trust me .... I like to shoot.

I think I would tickle-kick the 8 out to the first diamond on the head rail. leaving both it and the CB as close to the rail as physically possible ......
 

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KindlyOleUncleDave said:
Is there a law that requires one to take a flier here? Maybe they passed one while I was asleep ... before these damn dogs woke me up barking at the leaf that moved outside at 0300.

I really see no need to do anything but keep at least 1 ball out of play completely and fart around with the other one trying to create something for myself (something better than that kick-bank .... my name is not TRex).

And trust me .... I like to shoot.

I think I would tickle-kick the 8 out to the first diamond on the head rail. leaving both it and the CB as close to the rail as physically possible ......
I tend to agree here, too -- at least from my chair -- who knows at the table, lol. But if I only need one ball, as much fun as it would be to kick the eight two rails toward my hole, it can be missed and I could end up fighting for my life with two balls in play down table.
 

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NH Steve said:
I tend to agree here, too -- at least from my chair -- who knows at the table, lol. But if I only need one ball, as much fun as it would be to kick the eight two rails toward my hole, it can be missed and I could end up fighting for my life with two balls in play down table.

Part of the logic of the shot is that two balls are not in play...nothing can be done with the 6 ball. In fact, nobody wants to touch the 6 ball. I think it's easy to guess that the 6 will not be moved unless on accident or unless our opponent makes the 8 ball first. The only ball in play is the 8 ball, which can be two railed to either hole, although our pocket seems limited to the kick bank. That being said, we have a huge advantage with our opponent needing two here and only one ball in play. Use this advantage how you will, but the most obvious way to force our opponent into a mistake here is to have a ball near our hole with the cue ball at the other end of the table.
 

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Skin said:
Another situation in which I was stumped. I have pocket A and needed one...and a shot. Skin
I'd roll the 6 in, and leave the CB down by my pocket. B has no good shot from there, and he'll eventually sell out a bank to A's hole. Keep in mind that the 8-ball banks straight back to pocket A if the CB is positioned many places on B's side of the table.

Doc
 

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Cowboy Dennis said:
I only learned this shot this past year on this site. I like it.
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Yeah, I like that shot a lot, too. Thanks. Let me guess. Rod, right?:)

I couldn't see a way to put pressure on him so I just bunted and kept the 8 off a banking angle. Well, it got me another inning, anyway.

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gulfportdoc said:
I'd roll the 6 in, and leave the CB down by my pocket. B has no good shot from there, and he'll eventually sell out a bank to A's hole. Keep in mind that the 8-ball banks straight back to pocket A if the CB is positioned many places on B's side of the table.

Doc

Not sure I like the sound of that, Doc. :D

Skin < had pocket A
 

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Skin said:
Not sure I like the sound of that, Doc. :D

Skin < had pocket A

I agree, the only place the 6 ball goes is in your pocket, if you have the CB in hand. He'd have to move it because you dont want both balls in play. :( Also I liked the shot you made just fine. Good job. :)
Rod.
PS, The kick shot is much better if the 8 ball is closer to the rail.
 

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Skin said:
Yeah, I like that shot a lot, too. Thanks. Let me guess. Rod, right?:)

I couldn't see a way to put pressure on him so I just bunted and kept the 8 off a banking angle. Well, it got me another inning, anyway.

Sk
i would have slow rolled the q into the 8
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LOL don't forget this shot. Since everyone wants to shoot flyers....
 

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put pressure on your opponent.

put pressure on your opponent.

Needing only one ball and the 6 ball relatively out of play for my opponent I would pocket the 8 ball and allow my opponent to make a mistake. Anytime you can win and can't lose it can't be all that bad.;)
 

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Piece o' cake:

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Think about it.

Think about it.

wincardona said:
Needing only one ball and the 6 ball relatively out of play for my opponent I would pocket the 8 ball and allow my opponent to make a mistake. Anytime you can win and can't lose it can't be all that bad.;)
Needing only one ball you must not allow your opponent to shoot the 6 ball. The position of the 6 ball is very much in favor of the player shooting for pocket A, especially needing only one.:D

The next best shot would be to kick the 8 ball two cushions..only if you feel comfortable with that type of shot.
 

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wincardona said:
Needing only one ball and the 6 ball relatively out of play for my opponent I would pocket the 8 ball and allow my opponent to make a mistake. Anytime you can win and can't lose it can't be all that bad.;)
where would you leave the cue ball? if you make the 8 you leave a shot either a cut to his pocket or cross corner thats not pressur on him. if hes smart he puts it up table and leaves you distance hoping YOU make the mistake. yes?
the only way to put pressure on him is get it (8) close to your hole in a way he cant easily cross bank it.imho. thus the kick bank. but for some of us (me) who needs more practice with that shot or dont want to risk if you hit it bad what wrong with hugging up to the 8 and see what he does.?
im sure there is alot to improve on in my analysis so fire away guys:)
 

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playing the % percentages

playing the % percentages

lll said:
where would you leave the cue ball? if you make the 8 you leave a shot either a cut to his pocket or cross corner thats not pressur on him. if hes smart he puts it up table and leaves you distance hoping YOU make the mistake. yes?
the only way to put pressure on him is get it (8) close to your hole in a way he cant easily cross bank it.imho. thus the kick bank. but for some of us (me) who needs more practice with that shot or dont want to risk if you hit it bad what wrong with hugging up to the 8 and see what he does.?
im sure there is alot to improve on in my analysis so fire away guys:)
As long as the 6 ball is in the position that it's in now your opponent cannot win from there. Plus you will cut off a portion of the table where he can't afford to leave you, in fear of leaving a shot on the 6 ball. Bottom line, as long as the 6 ball remains in the position that's it's in your opponent must make his two balls one at a time. That alone puts more pressure on him.

By pocketing the 8 ball and leaving the cue ball frozen to the bottom rail you are tempting your opponent to shoot a difficult shot that he cannot win with but can lose with.:) This will also put more pressure on him, which should make you feel good.;) Matter of fact I would be hoping that he would shoot the spot shot ...frozen to the bottom rail.:eek: If he doesn't you won't be in trouble and possibly may have some type of a bank to win with, plus the 6 ball will still be in a favorable position.:cool:
 
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