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Old 04-17-2019, 07:18 PM
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Mkbtank, Howdy;

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You go, Hank! Keep it up and we are going to start calling you “Hank the Bank!”
You are very much to early to even begin to consider such thoughts. Perhaps in
a few years

Thanks for the positive thoughts, much appreciated by-the-way.

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Old 04-18-2019, 07:57 PM
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Whitey, & lll, Howdy;

Well all good runs end up with a toe stub ... Went to the 9-Ball tourney today
and showed up early as is normal for me. Couldn't hit the broad side of a barn
with a road map, compass and a half hour head start ... Nuttin was
workin'. The cycles of life, yin & yang call it what you will. Today I truly created
a vacuum on the table. Thought I'd only go 2 and out but held on for 4 games
then was out.

All I can do now is fageddabout, shake it off and I'll get back to it again on Sat.

As always, thanks for the suggestions and thoughts.

hank
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Old 04-20-2019, 11:51 PM
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I like banks myself -- although as a game "Banks" really is not played in New England at all. So instead, I seek out games like One Pocket, that feature lots of banks. There is also a locally popular game called "Around the World" that I get to play a lot of banks in, and that is why I like that game too.

The club that I play in most of the time has unusual cushion rubber -- I believe the brand is Kleber. It is the truest rebounding pool table I have ever played on. That sounds great but actually I don't like that aspect of the table, because with the true rebounding comes the inability to "shorten up" banks to nearly the extent that is easy to do on say a standard Gold Crown or a Diamond.

I understand from Greg Sullivan -- the man behind the Diamond tables -- that because he loves Banks himself, Diamond tables were designed specifically to be able to shorten up banks if you want to, or maybe stretch them out if you want to. Apparently that is why Diamonds seem so "speed sensitive" when it comes to Banks -- it puts more tools in the bank players tool box.

Brumback, and other top bankers seem to like to shorten up their banks. Yet a couple of years ago Corey Deuel won the Derby City Banks division playing most everything he could at pocket speed. I guess that's why they say, "different strokes for different folks" lol
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Old 04-21-2019, 12:10 PM
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NH Steve, Howdy;

Thanks for stoppin' by and the in-put. Figured most folks here are fans of Banks,
to one extent or another, due to the necessity of it's use in 1P.

Yesterday was an 8-ball tourney, warmed up as usual, Tony showed up we
played a few games and I was up against the guy with the over-inflated head again.
I proceeded to have some more fun with playing Defense and kicking and making
a Bank or 2 along the way. I've been working with the Corner-5 for a few weeks
and am starting to blend the Plus-2 part into practice as well. Monday looks to
be a fun day. Lots of things to play with, but I think I need to keep my focus
on _____________, any ideas to fill-in that blank with???

Thanks again for any and all thoughts and suggestions.

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Old 04-21-2019, 12:49 PM
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NH Steve, Howdy;

Thanks for stoppin' by and the in-put. Figured most folks here are fans of Banks,
to one extent or another, due to the necessity of it's use in 1P.

Yesterday was an 8-ball tourney, warmed up as usual, Tony showed up we
played a few games and I was up against the guy with the over-inflated head again.
I proceeded to have some more fun with playing Defense and kicking and making
a Bank or 2 along the way. I've been working with the Corner-5 for a few weeks
and am starting to blend the Plus-2 part into practice as well. Monday looks to
be a fun day. Lots of things to play with, but I think I need to keep my focus
on _____________, any ideas to fill-in that blank with???

Thanks again for any and all thoughts and suggestions.

hank
"good fundamentals" lol

The reason being, that ultimately banking is all about fine execution -- made more challenging because of the cushions involved -- especially how english and speed have to be so precisely controlled -- along with an extra accurate hit, because of the doubling (or more) of the distances involved.

One of the major pool instructors (Jerry Brieseth) told me something like, "It's funny, but the pros come to me for help with the fundamentals, whereas the amateurs only want to learn the tricky stuff." I think if you asked other top instructors you would get about the same answer lol.
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Old 04-21-2019, 02:14 PM
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Steve, I have a couple of questions about Kleber cushions.
1. Are they very lively, good speed? I am hoping so.
I am looking for cushions that will not allow poorly struck balls to still go into the pockets. This I find is a good indicator on how responsive the cushions are.
2. When doing a double cross side or double cross corner bank, does the ob hold its angle and not reverse off the 2nd cushion? I am hoping it holds it's angle.

These are the qualities I am looking for in cushions to replace my cushions and I need the two questions answered so I can go ahead and order Kleber cushions. Thanks, Whitey

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Old 04-21-2019, 03:25 PM
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N HSteve, Howdy;

Chuckle, one of my ex's used to refer to me as the most Basicest people she'd
ever known. My Screen name over on AZb is "The Basics", Larry figured it out a
few months ago and sent me a PM to verify. I'd also mentioned it to Whitey
when he asked me to just use a single stroke to check my alignment. Found that
I was out of alignment and the results of that have me still improving that aspect.
Fundamentals are the foundation, if it's shaky, the building won't last.

Smart man that Jerry Brieseth ...

Thanks for the reminder.

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Old 04-21-2019, 09:04 PM
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Steve, I have a couple of questions about Kleber cushions.
1. Are they very lively, good speed? I am hoping so.
I am looking for cushions that will not allow poorly struck balls to still go into the pockets. This I find is a good indicator on how responsive the cushions are.
2. When doing a double cross side or double cross corner bank, does the ob hold its angle and not reverse off the 2nd cushion? I am hoping it holds it's angle.

These are the qualities I am looking for in cushions to replace my cushions and I need the two questions answered so I can go ahead and order Kleber cushions. Thanks, Whitey
whitey getting the object ball to "fall" off a Z bank (thats what i call them)
is speed sensitive ESPECIALLY ON A DIAMOND TABLE
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Old 04-23-2019, 10:51 AM
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Howdy All;

Well, practice yesterday was fun, did my usual warm-ups then attempted the
shot Whitey mentioned in the newer thread. My results were not very good.

The 1 swing drill is working, not so many misses to the Right. Went through a
rack (full), of Banks then went to the 6 scattered balls. That was my first Full
rack for Banks. Wow, Used the break that Freddy says he used which is close
to a 1P break. It's a lot different then smashing a 9 ball rack and by comparison
running through them with wild abandon ... Gonna have to do some more
of those full racks. Lots more thought about shot selection and CB position is
required.

Today is 8-ball, but think I'll do a row of balls on the Center line and Bank'em
to sides and corners once or a few times if Tony doesn't show up.

Always appreciate y'all's thoughts and suggestions.

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Old 04-24-2019, 12:28 AM
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Howdy All;

Well, Tony didn't show so went into practice mode. Practice was good, normal
warm-up stuff then started to do some work with Corner-5 & the Plus-2 systems.
Getting a feel for them then I started to throw in some of Freddy's stuff. Forgot
the book but memory is still somewhat accurate. Not enough for the pass-over
banks and cut-banks with all the different methodologies so I went to Long and
Side Cross banks. Side and end rail numbers were (after several days of practice),
easy enough to remember. 1.6, 2.6, 3.3, 5.4 & 6.8. I'll get on to the cut and Pass-over
Banks Thurs. before 9-ball as I think they'll more then likely be in use much more often.

Got involved with this practice that completely I shot like crap during the tourney.
I still had a good enough time. Reckon I need to build a wall to separate the
two sections of brain space. Training over here, and regular shooting over there. chuckle.

Thanks for any thoughts and suggestions.

hank
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