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Old 12-21-2013, 06:15 AM
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How about firing into the 8ball which will squeeze the 10 into the 12 and the 12 hits the 15 towards your pocket, sticking the CB on the 8. This would move a lot of balls to your side. The safest shot would be to either one or 2 rail the 3, but wouldn't be a game changer in my opinion.--Smitty
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Old 12-21-2013, 09:24 AM
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2 rail the 3 with draw leaving the cue ball by the 8 and 10.
Same. That is my initial thought.
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Old 12-21-2013, 09:27 AM
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Thank you all for playing.
I've chosen two of your suggestions and executed each of them a few times to get the best possible results. Here are those results. I haven't learned how to place both images on the same page yet so bare with me please.
The first result image comes from MKelley and his idea of banking the 11 ball into the bottom of the three. (post #7 ). The eleven ball went into the upper left hand pocket and had to be spotted.




The second image comes from the result of mhilton's choice in post #5 and can be seen on the next page. This is my choice too. The key the this shot is to get a ball on the bottom rail and the cue ball nestled into the stack. This shot can actually be hit fairly hard. By driving the cue ball firmly into the stack you can dislodge one or two more balls into position on your side of the table.
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Old 12-21-2013, 09:31 AM
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Here is the type of result I look for in these scenarios. This is from the two rail shot with a draw stroke into the stack.

Notice also that this opponent must also defend against giving up a bank on the eleven. Many times you will find that a ball on your side rail is not always an asset.

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Old 12-21-2013, 09:44 AM
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Here is the type of result I look for in these scenarios. This is from the two rail shot with a draw stroke into the stack.

Notice also that this opponent must also defend against giving up a bank on the eleven. Many times you will find that a ball on your side rail is not always an asset.

Tom
that trace around the rack looks tilted.
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Old 12-21-2013, 09:49 AM
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I see what you mean but it isn't. Just an illusion. Happens all the time.
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Old 12-21-2013, 10:28 AM
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2 rail the 3 with draw leaving the cue ball by the 8 and 10.

thinking this is the shot as well ... but you'll need to be some inside on the cueball in order to shorten up the two railer
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Old 12-21-2013, 10:32 AM
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I see what you mean but it isn't. Just an illusion. Happens all the time.
having the same illusion ...
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Old 12-21-2013, 11:14 AM
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Hi Tom-
What do think of playing the one-railer on the 3ball and bringing the cue off of the long rail to the stack? I think the you will pocket the 1 rail more often than the 2 railer and get the same safety position.Make the 3,bank the 11and you should win the game.Good thread.

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Old 12-21-2013, 11:45 AM
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... Notice also that this opponent must also defend against giving up a bank on the eleven. Many times you will find that a ball on your side rail is not always an asset.

Tom
That's for sure, and learning to be aware of these and look for them is good tidbit to take away from this thread.
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