I think rerack period. It shouldn’t cost you if it can’t help you.
I think rerack period. It shouldn’t cost you if it can’t help you.
I see both sides but I also agree with this.
its a stupid way to play. one pocket takes most of the luck out of pool to begin with. now they want to take any perceived left over luck out as well.
and the break is a SKILL shot. and against a better player you may want to take more risk and try to pocket a ball on the break.
what if a guy makes a great break and hangs a ball in his hole. then play goes on. but if it goes another half inch and drops he doesnt get credit for it and has to break again. what nonsense is that.
next lets play call shot on the balls. then call on all kisses.
I have a question for the group. If your playing by the rules if you make a ball in your pocket on the break it's a re-rack & you break again. What would be the rule if you make a ball in your pocket but also scratch?
its a stupid way to play. one pocket takes most of the luck out of pool to begin with. now they want to take any perceived left over luck out as well.
and the break is a SKILL shot. and against a better player you may want to take more risk and try to pocket a ball on the break.
what if a guy makes a great break and hangs a ball in his hole. then play goes on. but if it goes another half inch and drops he doesnt get credit for it and has to break again. what nonsense is that.
next lets play call shot on the balls. then call on all kisses.
You made some good points, Mike. If the re-rack rule is being used, then it would be the premier consideration regarding the outcome of the break.One pocket probably has just as much luck if not more than other games...considering you can shoot any ball/balls any kind of way you want I think luck plays a BIG part in the end result of alot of one pocket shots.
Around Chicago there are many players who agree to play re-rack if a ball is made on the break. I think it's a fine way to play as long as both players agree to it.
Control of the CB on the break is skill...the end position of the object balls and sometimes the CB is luck.
Yes...if playing re-rack rules the ball drops in the hole it's a re-rack. If them's the rules than them's the rules.
I personally dont like the rerack rule. I feel that practicing the break is one of the requirements of the game. There are some who can break and get that corner ball near the hole a great percentage of the time. They practice it.
However if you do decide to play rerack then for me it must be any ball including the cue ball. For many times the cue ball goes in because of luck or unluck as the case may be.
The pros, imo, are not against luck but the ability of their opponent to run out when this situation happens. If they want to play make a ball on the break and you must play a safe after that fine. But reracking is not for me.
If you are for taking luck out of the game then if you shoot a shot and miss but go 3 rails and caroms off another ball (which has happened to me) and it goes in your pocket, does that ball come up and you lose your turn?
So, one of the most exsasperating aspects that too often pops up in this forum is that so many people apparently can't read. :lol The OP question set a circumstance which was the basis of his question. It was that they were playing by the rule that if you make a ball you rerack.
Many replies totally ignored his question, and chose to opine on the rule they were playing by instead, revealing some strongly held belief, albeit, unsolicited.
To answer your question Eddie, the made ball should be spotted, the score is -1 for the breaker and zero for the non-breaker, and it is the non-breakers shot with BIH behind the line. This is the same result that you would get if you weren't playing "rerack". I am sure that when the "rerack rule was conceived, it was not anticipated that the breaker could negate the penalty for scratching by making a ball on the break, and thereby getting a "do over":sorry
I think this "rerack" rule is a product of the desire of some to rack their own, and of their opponent's mistrust of their motive, same as the shenanigans going on with 9 ball racking, and it makes perfect sense if your gonna allow the breaker to touch the balls before he breaks.
I too, would eliminate this rule you are asking about, by never allowing an opponent to rack his own, something that never used to exist, until recently in my experience.
Does that mean you would not play if the proposed rules between your opponent and you or tournament rules included re rack if a ball is pocketed on the break?
I personally dont like the rerack rule. I feel that practicing the break is one of the requirements of the game. There are some who can break and get that corner ball near the hole a great percentage of the time. They practice it.
However if you do decide to play rerack then for me it must be any ball including the cue ball. For many times the cue ball goes in because of luck or unluck as the case may be.
The pros, imo, are not against luck but the ability of their opponent to run out when this situation happens. If they want to play make a ball on the break and you must play a safe after that fine. But reracking is not for me.
If you are for taking luck out of the game then if you shoot a shot and miss but go 3 rails and caroms off another ball (which has happened to me) and it goes in your pocket, does that ball come up and you lose your turn?