Pocket A whaddya say?

Tramp Steamer said:

Get safe behind the eleven.

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lll said:

just like i beleive the push out rule going to ball in hand ruined 9 balll i also beleive allowing jumping in one pocket is blasphemy. just one old farts opinion.
if the concensus agrees i would still like to share the crown with rod if you all agree this opportunity doesnt happen very regularly for me

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lll said:

if the concensus agrees i would still like to share the crown with rod if you all agree this opportunity doesnt happen very regularly for me

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lll said:

just like i beleive the push out rule going to ball in hand ruined 9 balll i also beleive allowing jumping in one pocket is blasphemy. just one old farts opinion.
if the concensus agrees i would still like to share the crown with rod if you all agree this opportunity doesnt happen very regularly for me

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lll said:

by the way nfs what did you shoot?

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One Pocket Ghost said:

Larry is the winner! - see post#6....

I'm giving a One Pocket lesson all afternoon tomorrow, and I would use this layout as an excellent learning example...which (and only if the 1ball is not makeable), I analyze like this:

Yesterday, I looked at, considered, almost liked, but eliminated CaliRed and Steve's shots - they're cute shots, probably productive, but...you could easily, slightly lose the cueball in the cluster and sell out - also, you may leave your opponent being able to see the balls by your pocket, and allow him to reverse things...and lastly, these two shots can be described by a phrase that Freddy likes to use: "You don't need these shots"....with the 1, 15, 3, 5, 6, and 12 balls already laying perfect for you - you don't need more balls on your side - you want a trap...

Now, as for the kicking of the 11 ball...other than Larry, everybody has wanted to kick the 11 ball harder, and have the cueball rebound off of the bottom rail to some or another area behind the stack....the reason that this shot is not the right shot is - it's a small cluster - you can't precisely control the cueball, and you are very likely to leave a window, allowing your opponent to reverse things, or at the very least, come off the left side of the 5ball and snooker you behind some ball or another...

I say the right shot is to spin very softly off the long rail, graze the 11ball and end up behind it...and the whole key is to, get the snooker at all costs! - if that means hitting the bottom rail first, without grazing the 11ball, and then freezing behind the 11ball, thus scratching - that's not first choice, but that's ok too...now, froze behind the 11, he's in a total trap - how could he get out of there without selling out - the way that the balls on the table so strongly favor your pocket, froze behind the 11 is where you want your opponent to be.


- Ghost

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lll said:

if you could do this for me this is the shot (page 2). you get rid of his ball. put another ball by your pocket. AND keep the cue ball CLOSE to the stack to limit hi replies.
please someone go thru the 4 pages of mty post( #28) and give me feedback to learn

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newfosgatesucks said:

I opted for the jump shot - the little 'hop' is Easily controlled. You can stay under(the first retarted trapezoid shape) or play on top of the balls(preferred) to run least four, AT LEAST!! Anyone who can spell one-pocket has a high percentage chance of getting 6, maybe out.

Additionally, if you jump better with draw(as most do) you will snag, and clip the ball by his pocket - and have a shot. Might make it, might get a shot on it too. I see many good rewards, for virtually no risk.

Blackeee should recognize this shot, I put it on him the other day.
Just a small return for the torment he has given me since we've been playing.

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One Pocket Ghost said:

You are right Larry, Rod and Billy's shot is not on - you would have to cut the 3, thus bumping the cluster and maybe selling out the 4-11 combination, or whatever....the point is, with any of these other shots, things could go very wrong, or at the very least, leave windows open - but freezing the cueball behind the 11ball is a 100% sure-thing-trap...


- Ghost

PS, I wish the DCC was next week, so we could gamble in person with this scenario....

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SJDinPHX said:

I WOULD get up out of the electric chair, to stop my opponent from shooting a "jump shot in one pocket,...with a jump cue.
You're right lll, that is blasphemy AND sacrilage. As far as I'm concerned...you play with what brung ya..If thats old school, so be it !.

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wincardona said:

RODNEY WINS.

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.....LARRY WINS.....

One Pocket Ghost said:

.....LARRY WINS.....

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wincardona said:

Ghost, are you serious when you say this shot is not on? The 3 ball is at least 1/3 of a ball in front of the 8 ball, positioned quite conveniently to fall comfortably behind the 8 ball. I shot this shot at least 10 times and had no problem with it. 70% of the time the 3 ball went in front of the pocket and the cue ball either froze to the 8, or went behind it.

If your really serious about gambling with this shot you'll not only lose but you will quit very early in the contest. I'm 100% sure about this.

Positioning the cue ball behind the 11 ball is a very good shot, but it certainly isn't a 100% sure thing trap, as you will see when we meet.

RODNEY WINS. It's Sat. morning and I just woke up 11:00 am. I couldn't wait to go onto one pocket.org to see if my challenge was accepted. I believe it was because The Ghost posted LARRY WINS on post #53 which confirmed to me that we got action.

This prop is a sure thing (sorry Larry) and when you have a sure thing it is WISE to bet as much as possible. I realize that The Ghost can't cover everything that I would be willing to bet but i'll accept wagers from his supporters. It doesn't have to be cash, old cues,used cars,pre owned clothes,gift cards, even coupons from Krogers are acceptable. Get the drift. If you can't carry it, put it on a trailer attached to your car, rent a truck, do anything you have to do but just be there with my stuff.

My daughter graduates in June (CHICAGO) THAT'S WHEN THIS HEIST WILL TAKE PLACE. Chris's Billiards (i'm willing to give up home court) I would like to play in the afternoon because I will probably want to take my daughter out for an early dinner. Sorry if anyone misses it there will probably only be a matinee (unless The Ghost is held at gunpoint)

I don't want to scare anyone...especially The Ghost..but when im against the 11 ball and I reposition the cue by my side pocket ,he'll have something to think about. Plus there are several other possible outs to this 100% sure-thing-trap. Be there in June To watch The Ghost's disappearing act.

ps. Rod i'll put you in for a free 25%

RODNEY ROCKS..RODNEY WINS

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lll said:

i think newfosgatesucks wins!! he jumped using his regular cue, made 6 balls and ultimately won beating blackeee by the sound of it.sounds like a winner to me.
p.s. whats so strong about leaving the cue by the side pocket? inquiring minds want to know

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wincardona said:

Larry, by repositioning the cue ball by the side pocket your forcing your opponent to execute another move to trap you (again) if he can. So if you can invision slightly moving the 11 ball and repositioning the cue ball near the rail by the side what would his next move be? Keep in mind you don't want to move the 11 ball too much because it's a ball he'll have to defend against. With Rodneys shot you will reposition the 3 ball very near the pocket and position the cue ball behind the 8, there is no escape from there.

Kicking the 11 ball is a good option but it's not like the Ghost says 100% sure-thing-trap. There are escapes on both sides of the 11 ball, where there are no escapes with Rodney's shot. If Rod's shot was not available I would kick the 11 ball.

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