Chicago Fats vs 100+ Ball Runner

ChicagoFats · Nov 1, 2017

Playing a strong player on his home table. He is not a gopher but not a nit.
It is a tightish gold crown that rolls straight and has good cloth.
Up a few games on the session and in a grueling game that has already been going on for some time...
Fats pocket is top left where the three ball cluster is.
The game score is Fats -1 vs. "100 Ball Runner" 4.
This is the first point in the game that I have had a legitimate shot for offense.
Fats to shoot....
WWYD?

androd · Nov 1, 2017

I'd be banking the 10ball long into the cluster, luck one in you've got shape, if not he's sorta doubled up.
P.S Were I younger and my draw stroke intact, (gofer that I am) I'd whistle the straight back.

Cory in dc · Nov 1, 2017

Hard to say with the tilted full table view, but if I can bank the 10 ball at my hole and draw over towards his side pocket, then that's my shot.

If not, then probably bank the seven towards my pocket and roll the cueball down towards his hole.

ChicagoFats · Nov 1, 2017

Cory in dc said:
Hard to say with the tilted full table view, but if I can bank the 10 ball at my hole and draw over towards his side pocket, then that's my shot.

If not, then probably bank the seven towards my pocket and roll the cueball down towards his hole.

7 and 10 balls both bank to the hole.

ChicagoFats · Nov 1, 2017

Cory in dc said:
Hard to say with the tilted full table view, but if I can bank the 10 ball at my hole and draw over towards his side pocket, then that's my shot.

If not, then probably bank the seven towards my pocket and roll the cueball down towards his hole.

This straight back lays good for the make, but if you draw back... I don't think you can avoid selling out the 15.

ChicagoFats · Nov 1, 2017

Cory in dc said:
Hard to say with the tilted full table view, but if I can bank the 10 ball at my hole and draw over towards his side pocket, then that's my shot.

If not, then probably bank the seven towards my pocket and roll the cueball down towards his hole.

He went to the bathroom, so I snapped these pictures pretty fast!!!(hence the view)
I will take a better full table pic next time.

ChicagoFats · Nov 1, 2017

I forgot to mention one factor....
We play "Blitz"....
This means if your opponent doesn't make a ball in his hole during a game... they have to pay double that game.
It is not a big factor in this game on this particular shot, but it does come into decision making.

OneRock · Nov 1, 2017

I'd cut the 6 to loosen up the cluster while sending the CB in between the 11 and 15 towards his side rail. With the right speed, the 11 will hopefully block his view.

Jimmy B · Nov 1, 2017

ChicagoFats said:
I forgot to mention one factor....
We play "Blitz"....
This means if your opponent doesn't make a ball in his hole during a game... they have to pay double that game.
It is not a big factor in this game on this particular shot, but it does come into decision making.

So if you make a ball in your pocket at any time during the game, this avoids the Blitz, or do you still have to pay double if you end up at zero or owing balls?? I didn't ever play this.. Good WWYD nice.. I also bank 10 at the cub of balls..

Mkbtank · Nov 1, 2017

Chicago Fats vs 100+ Ball Runner

androd said:
I'd be banking the 10ball long into the cluster, luck one in you've got shape, if not he's sorta doubled up.

P.S Were I younger and my draw stroke intact, (gofer that I am) I'd whistle the straight back.

Hahahha. It would be so hard to get me off that straight back. But you’ve got the correct second choice as well Sir Rodney. Heh.

darmoose · Nov 1, 2017

Cory in dc said:
Hard to say with the tilted full table view, but if I can bank the 10 ball at my hole and draw over towards his side pocket, then that's my shot.

If not, then probably bank the seven towards my pocket and roll the cueball down towards his hole.

I agree that banking either the 10 or the 7 is tha shot. Since they both go, I would bank the 7 ball because if I bank the 10 and leave the CB high as you suggest, he most likely will be able to kick behind that cluster and create a trap that I won't like.

If I bank the 7 ball I can roll down and get behind that ball near his bottom rail or if I get fortunate enough to get one close to my hole he won't be able to see it from the bottom rail.

ChicagoFats · Nov 1, 2017

Jimmy B said:
So if you make a ball in your pocket at any time during the game, this avoids the Blitz, or do you still have to pay double if you end up at zero or owing balls?? I didn't ever play this.. Good WWYD nice.. I also bank 10 at the cub of balls..

If a ball is pocketed in your hole by anyone.... you are "off" the Blitz.
it doesn't matter if you lose 8 to 7 or 8 to -28.
It adds a little wrinkle to an already complex game. it comes into decision making about 1 out of 5 games I would say. If you played on loose pockets, i would imagine it would come up more often.

ChicagoFats · Nov 1, 2017

darmoose said:
I agree that banking either the 10 or the 7 is tha shot. Since they both go, I would bank the 7 ball because if I bank the 10 and leave the CB high as you suggest, he most likely will be able to kick behind that cluster and create a trap that I won't like.

If I bank the 7 ball I can roll down and get behind that ball near his bottom rail or if I get fortunate enough to get one close to my hole he won't be able to see it from the bottom rail.

"100 Ball Runner" put me in that "trap" about 5 shots already... it took a while to just get out of it. One of those times where you feel like you are swimming under water and finally get your head up for a peak.

cincy_kid · Nov 1, 2017

I like Rod's 10 ball bank into the cluster.

It looks like its on to just stun the CB over to the side rail.

darmoose · Nov 1, 2017

ChicagoFats said:
"100 Ball Runner" put me in that "trap" about 5 shots already... it took a while to just get out of it. One of those times where you feel like you are swimming under water and finally get your head up for a peak.

Yeah, once you experience that trap, you gotta be on the lookout for it. So, between the two banks, 10 ball or 7 ball. since they both go and both could push balls nearer to your hole, you gotta go with the 7 ball bank cause it affords natural and superior CB position on the bottom rail, whether you make a ball or not.

Jimmy B · Nov 1, 2017

ChicagoFats said:
If a ball is pocketed in your hole by anyone.... you are "off" the Blitz.
it doesn't matter if you lose 8 to 7 or 8 to -28.
It adds a little wrinkle to an already complex game. it comes into decision making about 1 out of 5 games I would say. If you played on loose pockets, i would imagine it would come up more often.

Yes indeed.. Now I understand.. That is a wrinkle.. You get somebody down a couple games and hit them with a couple of Blitzes, you could really demoralized them and get the nose open.. I like it..

One Pocket Ghost · Nov 1, 2017

ChicagoFats said:
"100 Ball Runner" put me in that "trap" about 5 shots already... it took a while to just get out of it. One of those times where you feel like you are swimming under water and finally get your head up for a peak.

Dan...whose the 100 Ball Runner? - I must know him.

Hardmix · Nov 1, 2017

One Pocket Ghost said:
Dan...whose the 100 Ball Runner? - I must know him.

I saw this post and thought of the guy I played at Chris's....I think his name was Thomas.

unoperro · Nov 1, 2017

One Pocket Ghost said:
Dan...whose the 100 Ball Runner? - I must know him.

WTF do you think it was easier to type out 100 ball runner then the guys name?

ChicagoFats · Nov 1, 2017

unoperro said:
WTF do you think it was easier to type out 100 ball runner then the guys name?

Yep... obviously don't think it is necessary to know the actual player. He is not a member here and I don't think it helps the story.
I did want to point out that he is a strong player and if he has any shot here after I shoot... then he is going to run the 4 needed balls.

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