Numbering the pockets

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I've noticed that oftentimes with descriptions of pool layouts, there is confusion about which hole is which, and perhaps to which end of the table that the poster is referring.

I'm wondering if most of the guys would like to use the pocket numbering system used in golf on the snooker or pool table? Like this:

[CUETABLE]http://CueTable.com/P/?@2AcQs1Bcxr4CefB4DdGs3EcYs2FeGB1PAkW@[/CUETABLE]

For our use the #4 and #5 pockets would be most pertinent, but there are many other situations where being able to visualize which hole the poster is referring to would be real helpful.

Whaddya think? ~Doc
 

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Doc, I think it would be helpful to identify the two scoring pockets, calling them either 1 and 2 or A and B. I don't see any reason to have numbers for the other pockets. It might make more sense to identify the six rails of the table, as they are often referenced in describing a shot. How about pockets A and B and rails 1 thru 6? Think how much simpler this would make our posts. :rolleyes:
 

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i think where you dont have a A in the pocket to identify it
or you dont text the pocket in greenshot
simply saying the right /left corner as you face the table to break
should let everyone know which pocket you are talking about
 

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I think I would start with 1 & 2 at the rack end of the table as 1P only concerns them and 14.1 uses them predominantly. Besides, that end of the table is where all the balls start out anyway. A primary goal in 9B is to make the corner ball in either of those pockets too. This would go against golf, which starts with a bank to the opposite end of the table tho.

[CUETABLE]http://CueTable.com/P/?@4Acxs3BcQu2CdxB2Dcpt1Ecxs1FeGB1PAkW@[/CUETABLE]
 

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I would think, to make things VERY SIMPLE,...when posting a "who shot what, when, where" thread...the original poster, should designate pockets "A" and "B"..and who
has WHICH POCKET !!!...They should also include.. "WHOSE SHOT IT IS" and "BALL COUNT", which just MAY have some bearing on the situation.

Failure to include these few items, should result in "no responses"...and a $50,000 fine (like Favre got) and also, be stripped of their "verified member" status, and demoted to "lurker only" status...This would alleviate most of the misquotes in 95% of these often confusing posts...:eek:

So far the only one who follows these few simple rules, is the dimmest bulb on the forum,... our own Cowboy Dennis..:cool: (Goast being only slightly dimmer..:p)

Trust me, I am a nurse's aide.
 
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vapros said:
Doc, I think it would be helpful to identify the two scoring pockets, calling them either 1 and 2 or A and B. I don't see any reason to have numbers for the other pockets. It might make more sense to identify the six rails of the table, as they are often referenced in describing a shot. How about pockets A and B and rails 1 thru 6? Think how much simpler this would make our posts. :rolleyes:
The pocket numbering system would come in handy when describing the position of the object balls or cue ball. This would especially be so when a guy is simply describing a shot without illustrating it with Wei or Greenshot.

For example: "There were three balls left on the table. The 14 ball was on the head spot, the 3 ball was just above the #6 hole, and the CB was in front of the #2 hole. I had pocket #4. What is my best shot?"

If one can mentally see the table layout, then it's possible to discuss the shot absent a photo or a graphic.

Otherwise one finds himself trying to describe the layout without being too obscure. There is wide confusion with use of the terms "up table", "down table", right or left side of the table, right or left pocket, etc. So since the pocket numbering system is already standard in golf, would it not have a good application in one-pocket (or any other pool game)?

Doc
 

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I think the "Golf" numbers that Doc shows in his first post would be best if numbers are being used -- the reason being, Golf uses pocket numbers so we don't have to try to establish something new, different and open to confusion.

For 'Up table' and 'Down table', lets get it straight -- Up is always the kitchen end -- the head of the table -- where you break from. Down is always where the balls are racked -- the foot of the table -- and where your scoring pockets are located in standard One Pocket.

I also think the left pocket should always refer to the left pocket as seen when standing at the head of the table, where you break from -- and likewise the right -- always as seen from the head of the table.

Anything else is confusing, imho.

Incidentally, there is a pretty thorough glossary of terms right here on OnePocket.org in case anyone missed it :)

Glossary of Terms for One Pocket
 

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NH Steve said:
I also think the left pocket should always refer to the left pocket as seen when standing at the head of the table, where you break from -- and likewise the right -- always as seen from the head of the table.


Sort of akin to when one refers to the right front tire on a vehicle being low or a left brake light being out. The listener with knowledge, aware that the reference point in automobiles is the driver's position (and of course that brake lights are only in the rear) immediately knows where-at these disfunctions is.

Myself, I have always confused head and foot of the table but only because having spent so much time racking in my life I guessed this was the important end, as I was there so much, and must therefore be the 'head' of the table. Even with that confusion however, I would always pick the 'right' side of a table to be the side to the right hand of the breaker. And the left the other side.

Have an enjoyable New Year
 

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why not get the wei table to have numbers already behind the pockets. cant someone here do it or have them do it.
 

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NH Steve said:
I think the "Golf" numbers that Doc shows in his first post would be best if numbers are being used -- the reason being, Golf uses pocket numbers so we don't have to try to establish something new, different and open to confusion.

For 'Up table' and 'Down table', lets get it straight -- Up is always the kitchen end -- the head of the table -- where you break from. Down is always where the balls are racked -- the foot of the table -- and where your scoring pockets are located in standard One Pocket.

I also think the left pocket should always refer to the left pocket as seen when standing at the head of the table, where you break from -- and likewise the right -- always as seen from the head of the table.

Anything else is confusing, imho.

Incidentally, there is a pretty thorough glossary of terms right here on OnePocket.org in case anyone missed it :)

Glossary of Terms for One Pocket
good post steve .
i agree
 

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NH Steve said:
I think the "Golf" numbers that Doc shows in his first post would be best if numbers are being used -- the reason being, Golf uses pocket numbers so we don't have to try to establish something new, different and open to confusion.

For 'Up table' and 'Down table', lets get it straight -- Up is always the kitchen end -- the head of the table -- where you break from. Down is always where the balls are racked -- the foot of the table -- and where your scoring pockets are located in standard One Pocket.

I also think the left pocket should always refer to the left pocket as seen when standing at the head of the table, where you break from -- and likewise the right -- always as seen from the head of the table.

Anything else is confusing, imho.

Incidentally, there is a pretty thorough glossary of terms right here on OnePocket.org in case anyone missed it :)

Glossary of Terms for One Pocket

Jeez, even I knew that. :)
 

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I think all "WEI tables" and "Greenstuff stuff" anyone posts, should first be sent to the Rust Belt Lunatic (AKA Cowboy Dennis)...as a sort of a clearing house.

Then he can edit it, and draw all the arrow thingie's, number all the stupid blurred balls, and designate all the pockets. He is very good at things like that...
...Damn good thing he's good for something...he sure as hell can't play one pocket.. :p :p :p

In the event he is working "7-12's"..(to pay off his GAMBLING DEBT'S, and buy more porn)..I would nominate Larry (lll) to fill in for him..At least Larry knows how to play..:)

PS..Puhleeeeze---do NOT send them to the Goast for editing, as he will just snivel, gripe, and move balls around to suit himself...and screw it all up...:eek:
 
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SJDinPHX said:
In the event he is working "7-12's"..(to pay off his GAMBLING DEBT'S, and buy more porn)..I would nominate Larry (lll) to fill in for him..At least Larry knows how to play..:)
dick thank you:) :rolleyes:
(were you serious???:eek: )
 

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Skin said:
Good idea, Doc. How about this as an improvement, something like the coordinate designations on a chess board by just numbering the diamonds.

The cb is at 2,6
The 14 is at 3.2,8
The 15 is at 4.5,9.5

The shooter's pocket is 1; the opponent's is 5, for exmple.


Uptable is heading in the direction of the larger numbers and downtable is heading in the direction of the smaller numbers, along the long rail. The foot rail is at 1 and the head rail is at 13. Intuitive.

Skin
That would be okay with me, Skin. But I sense that it would be way too complicated for the average poster.:rolleyes: There doesn't seem to be much interest in the golf pocket numbering system either. So I think we'll just be keeping the "describe and hope" system.:D After all, using the describe and hope sytem provides much more juicy potential for misunderstanding, thereby allowing more fodder for arguments...;)

Doc
 

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Chess board notation

Chess board notation

I recall what Q-QB3 is ..or P-QR4.

Haven't a clue to what the hell they are talking about now when I see the answer to a daily chess problem in a newspaper (does any of that stuff even still exist ? ).

A move now denoted by (a picture of a queen's crown) followed by "xd8+" means diddly squat to me other than it is probably a Queen move ....

And the thought of attempting to call out the position of balls on a pocket table, when 1/2 mm can make a difference, by such a coordinante system ....... well, let me say .... it does not bode well for the new year.
 

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SJDinPHX said:
So far the only one who follows these few simple rules, is the dimmest bulb on the forum,... our own Cowboy Dennis..:cool: (Goast being only slightly dimmer..:p)
Not that I'm a f@@king genius or anything BUT, if I'm the "dimmest" bulb on the forum wouldn't Goosty be "slightly brighter"? Just sayin'.

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KindlyOleUncleDave said:
Haven't a clue to what the hell they are talking about now when I see the answer to a daily chess problem in a newspaper (does any of that stuff even still exist ? ).
Not to belabor the obvious Dave but if you see it in a newspaper then it must exist:p . I also grew up on the old P-K4. Now they use the algebraic notation.
SCD_algebraic_notation.png
 

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SJDinPHX said:
I think all "WEI tables" and "Greenstuff stuff" anyone posts, should first be sent to the Rust Belt Lunatic (AKA Cowboy Dennis)...as a sort of a clearing house.

Then he can edit it, and draw all the arrow thingie's, number all the stupid blurred balls, and designate all the pockets. He is very good at things like that. You mean like this(pic below).
...Damn good thing he's good for something...he sure as hell can't play one pocket.. :pI beat the Quad(sometimes:) )

In the event he is working "7-12's"..(to pay off his GAMBLING DEBT'S, and buy more porn).How many times do I have to tell you, I DON'T GAMBLE!!!(except on pool)
Would this be a properly edited and cleared pic Ducky?:D

Properly Labeled Pic.jpg
 
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