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Old 09-11-2019, 09:49 AM
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No question I am shooting the 3 moving the cb up to the 2nd diamond on the long rail. If I make it, which I should, I am shooting the 2 with low right coming around for the balls on my side...or coming into the 15 to open the stack up. Either way its bad news for the opponent.
exactly what I play, good shot Ben!

Now if i can just learn to run the balls like you...

I don't like the 8 as much because when you shoot that shot, you have to make it between the 2 balls and a lot of times you end up shooting it 1 rail into the 7 and balls stay near the side and you really didn't put any pressure on your opponent.

With the 3, I am making it or hanging it and if I make it I should be able ot get at least 1 more if not 2 or a few.

Off the 10 into the stack is a good def shot, but here I am being offensive.
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Old 09-11-2019, 10:26 AM
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No question I am shooting the 3 moving the cb up to the 2nd diamond on the long rail. If I make it, which I should, I am shooting the 2 with low right coming around for the balls on my side...or coming into the 15 to open the stack up. Either way its bad news for the opponent.
Agree with this 100%. It is a natural angle to cross the 3 and off to the races.
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Old 09-11-2019, 10:31 AM
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This would be my choice. If you get it somewhat close there will be al lot of protection for it.
I also like this shot. A natural.
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Old 09-11-2019, 11:27 AM
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If the 8ball had room to go then that obviously would be the best shot hands down, however, it doesn't which puts that option at # 2 or 3. Banking the 3ball would be my second choice slightly over the 8ball option, banking the 3ball is mostly about cue ball control, which means this shot cannot be hit hard enough to pocket it a higher percentage of the time. That would be the problem with playing the 3ball and playing a good cue ball, you are not going to get the turn on the 3ball hitting it at pocket speed that's needed to pocket the bank. Playing the cue ball to the side rail near the side pocket would be a good spot to leave it. Playing off the 10ball into the stack is mostly always a good option IMO but in this situation you are positioned to apply more pressure on your opponent and possibly put him in serious trouble without losing your position, which leads me to my number one option..

Banking the 7ball. This option is not the easiest to execute but the reward is much higher than any other option. Equally as important as the accuracy of the hit is controlling the cue ball to the upper left quadrant of the table. If you're able to control the cue ball to there than you can afford to lose accuracy with the hit. As long as you can control the cue ball and manage getting the 7ball close to your pocket than your opponent is in serious trouble. That would be as you say in Chess...Check. Check Mate is just around the corner.

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Old 09-11-2019, 11:31 AM
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OPG Good wwyd with many options.
Only problem is there arent any good kicks.
Maybe thats what you were after?
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Old 09-11-2019, 11:37 AM
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Default Ghost vs. John 45 wwyd?

Like many the 8 is my first choice. Followed by crossing the 3.
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Old 09-11-2019, 12:28 PM
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Bank the seven ball as you have a lot of cover with the six, eight, nine and eleven. Get it close and you might be golden.
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Old 09-11-2019, 01:28 PM
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John's shot --- his pocket is at the bottom right --- score is 0 to 0 --- John's in a very good position here with several offensive shots available, and also one real good move --- wwyd ----->
I'm not saying it's what I would choose to shoot here (like Ben & Chris, I'd probably choose to twist bank the 5)..but as I said in my opening post, there's one real good move here, and it's not coming off of the 10 and into the stack - that shot would leave an escape route of banking the 9 straight back whilst leaving the cueball on the head rail, or 2-railing the 11...

My move is to thin the 8 and drop down two rails to freeze up behind the 12ball - the opponent would be in big trouble from there.

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P.S. Btw, the 8 was/is makeable - but you'd have to twist it.
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Old 09-11-2019, 02:18 PM
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As I'm sure you all will agree, being at the table affords a far better assessment of the proper choice of shot. Given what we have to work with, and to Ghost's credit, he usually provides multiple images from various angles allowing us as good an idea of the position of the balls as we can hope for.

As others have suggested I too like the bank on the 8 ball but sending the cue ball long into the upper left quadrant would not be my first choice. The prospects of scoring large numbers of balls should the 8 fall is huge if the cue ball is stunned for an easy shot on the 6. This shot has little to no risk. Keep positive when a strong aggressive shot presents itself. Setting up a move is fine but the ultimate goal is to score 8 balls.

My second choice might be to bank the 2 ball off the bottom half of either the 10 or 15 balls drifting the cue ball forward. This too is an aggressive shot with high scoring possibilities.

These two shots would be where I would first set my sights. After that should I deside to pass on either of these two shots I would then consider banking the 7 with primary focus on controlling the cue ball into the upper left corner area.

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Old 09-11-2019, 02:26 PM
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts Tom.

Where would you plan to leave the cue ball after banking the 8 to then make the 6? I ask because it looks like the 6 might bank back to his hole and I’m curious to get your thoughts on that.

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As I'm sure you all will agree, being at the table affords a far better assessment of the proper choice of shot. Given what we have to work with, and to Ghost's credit, he usually provides multiple images from various angles allowing us as good an idea of the position of the balls as we can hope for.

As others have suggested I too like the bank on the 8 ball but sending the cue ball long into the upper left quadrant would not be my first choice. The prospects of scoring large numbers of balls should the 8 fall is huge if the cue ball is stunned for an easy shot on the 6. This shot has little to no risk. Keep positive when a strong aggressive shot presents itself. Setting up a move is fine but the ultimate goal is to score 8 balls.

My second choice might be to bank the 2 ball off the bottom half of either the 10 or 15 balls drifting the cue ball forward. This too is an aggressive shot with high scoring possibilities.

These two shots would be where I would first set my sights. After that should I deside to pass on either of these two shots I would then consider banking the 7 with primary focus on controlling the cue ball into the upper left corner area.

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