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I'm sorry but I didn't know how to copy and paste this option on the original thread.here are 3 good options that are available, they are obvious to some, to others maybe not. Can you figure out where they are and which is best?[CUETABLE]http://CueTable.com/P/?@1AOKH1BMEB3CTBN3DKkL4EQoN4FOCf3GVFN3HNuO3IQXM4JWcM4KbOP1LVfB4MTRM3NVgf3OXdL4PSxE4QdGr3RcIs2qVvVYOU_HAVE_POCKET_A_AND_IT'S_YOUR_SHOT&ZZ@http://CueTable.chttp://CueTable.com/P/?@1AOSF1BMEB3CTBN3DKkL4EQoN4FOCf3GVFN3HNuO3IQXM4JWcM4KbOP1LVfB4MTRM3NVgf3OXdL4PTGR4QdGr3RcIs1UOSF2UbuG4Uatd4UalV4kTGR1kQvi1kObJ1kcPj1kUlb1kVKg2qVvVYOU_HAVE_POCKET_A_AND_IT'S_YOUR_SHOT&ZZ@http://CueTable.com/P/?@1AOKH1BMEB3CTBN3DKkL4EQoN4FOCf3GVFN3HNuO3IQXM4JWcM4KbOP1LVWe4MTRM3NVgf3OXdL4PUMH4QdGr3RcIs2qVvVYOU_HAVE_POCKET_A_AND_IT'S_YOUR_SHOT&ZZ@om/P/?@1AOKH1BMEB3TBN3D
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Pg. 3. This is the third option, which I think is the best. After striking the 1 ball the cueball and the 1 ball will end up in a strong position, and as a plus if you make the 1 ball you will be in line to get u some.[CUETABLEhere are 3 good options that are available, they are obvious to some, to others maybe not. Can you figure out where they are and which is best?[CUETABLE]http://CueTable.com/P/?@1AOKH1BMEB3CTBN3DKkL4EQoN4FOCf3GVFN3HNuO3IQXM4JWcM4KbOP1LVfB4MTRM3NVgf3OXdL4PSxE4QdGr3RcIs2qVvVYOU_HAVE_POCKET_A_AND_IT'S_YOUR_SHOT&ZZ@http://CueTable.chttp://CueTable.com/P/?@1AOSF1BMEB3CTBN3DKkL4EQoN4FOCf3GVFN3HNuO3IQXM4JWcM4KbOP1LVfB4MTRM3NVgf3OXdL4PTGR4QdGr3RcIs1UOSF2UbuG4Uatd4UalV4kTGR1kQvi1kObJ1kcPj1kUlb1kVKg2qVvVYOU_HAVE_POCKET_A_AND_IT'S_YOUR_SHOT&ZZ@http://CueTable.com/P/?@1AOKH1BMEB3CTBN3DKkL4EQoN4FOCf3GVFN3HNuO3IQXM4JWcM4KbOP1LVWe4MTRM3NVgf3OXdL4PUMH4QdGr3RcIs2qVvVYOU_HAVE_POCKET_A_AND_IT'S_YOUR_SHOT&ZZ@om/P/?@1AOKH1BMEB3TBN3D
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Pg. 3. This is the third option, which I think is the best. After striking the 1 ball the cueball and the 1 ball will end up in a strong position, and as a plus if you make the 1 ball you will be in line to get u some.][/CUETABLE] My other 2 options were #1 two rail the 2 ball #2 billiard bank the 15 ball with position
 

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wincardona said:
I'm sorry but I didn't know how to copy and paste this option on the original thread.here are 3 good options that are available, they are obvious to some, to others maybe not. Can you figure out where they are and which is best?[CUETABLE]http://CueTable.com/P/ Pg. 3. This is the third option, which I think is the best. After striking the 1 ball the cueball and the 1 ball will end up in a strong position, and as a plus if you make the 1 ball you will be in line to get u some.[CUETABLEhere are 3 good options that are available, they are obvious to some, to others maybe not. Can you figure out where they are and which is best?[CUETABLE]http://CueTable.com/P/?@1AOKH1BMEB3CTBN3DKkL4EQoN4FOCf3GVFN3HNuO3IQXM4JWcM4KbOP1LVfB4MTRM3NVgf3OXdL4PSxE4QdGr3RcIs2qVvVYOU_HAVE_POCKET_A_AND_IT'S_YOUR_SHOT&ZZ@http://CueTable.chttp://CueTable.com/P/?@1AOSF1BMEB3CTBN3DKkL4EQoN4FOCf3GVFN3HNuO3IQXM4JWcM4KbOP1LVfB4MTRM3NVgf3OXdL4PTGR4QdGr3RcIs1UOSF2UbuG4Uatd4UalV4kTGR1kQvi1kObJ1kcPj1kUlb1kVKg2qVvVYOU_HAVE_POCKET_A_AND_IT'S_YOUR_SHOT&ZZ@http://CueTable.com/P/?@1AOKH1BMEB3CTBN3DKkL4EQoN4FOCf3GVFN3HNuO3IQXM4JWcM4KbOP1LVWe4MTRM3NVgf3OXdL4PUMH4QdGr3RcIs2qVvVYOU_HAVE_POCKET_A_AND_IT'S_YOUR_SHOT&ZZ@om/P/?@1AOKH1BMEB3TBN3D
KkL4EQoN4FOCf3GVFN3HNuO3IQXM4JWcM4KbOP1LVWe4MTRM3NVgf3OXdL4PUMH4QdGr3RcIs2qVvVYOU_HAVE_POCKET_A_AND_IT'S_YOUR_SHOT&ZZ@@[/CUETABLE]

Billy, thats a great idea, I've never seen or thought of this shot, but will be experimenting with it soon.thanks for posting it.
Rod.
PS, The "cut page" option in the tools will help you a lot.
 

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Billy,

Once you've created a table, with the balls where you want them, indicated which pocket is yours and the score and you want to save that page and add some more. Click on the Save page icon (about 1/2 diamond to the right of the side pocket on the bottom) Hold your mouse over the icon and it will display what it does. Ok, now you've saved your original table as Page 1.

Now to add another page to show a shot you want to, just click on the AddtoNewPage icon (which is the one to the right of the Save Page one) this will copy your whole layout to a new page. If you think you want another page, just click on the AddtoNewPage icon again and it will make a Page 3 with the exact ball placements of the other pages. Now you've got 3 pages exactly the same, with just the layout of the balls and score and pocket.

Now you can click on the Page button to go to page 2 and show your shot, draw all your lines and such and choose Save Page. Then click on the Page button to go to your Page 3, show another type of shot and choose Save Page.

Oh... one other thing... When you are in your post ready to paste in the URL you copied of the WEI table, and you click the cueball with the pencil, it puts in a {CUEBALL}{/CUEBALL} You need to make sure you paste the URL RIGHT BETWEEN the brackets that encase each word of CUEBALL... otherwise, as you can see in your post above, you have other text separating them and that means no table.

hope that helps, your doing great
 
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Billy, that is a great shot to know, but of course the angle into the one is critical. Here is what happened when I set it up and tried it the first time. :eek:

Skin

4 pages to the WEI booklet

[CUETABLE]http://CueTable.com/P/?@1AOKH1BMEB3CTBN3DKkL4EQoN4FOCf3GVFN3HNuO3IQXM4JWcM4KbOP1LVfB4MTRM3NVgf3OXdL4PSxE4QdGr3RcIs1UOKH2UdpB4kSxE1kQvq1kPYW1kbhH1kTUd2qVvVYOU_HAVE_POCKET_A_AND_IT'S_YOUR_SHOT&ZZ@4AAcY1BMEB3CTBN3DKkL4EQoN4FOCf3GVFN3HNuO3IQXM4JWcM4KbOP1LVfB4MTRM3NVgf3OXdL1PTMd4QdGr3RcIs4UAcY3Ucxu4aOCf4aPIw4abIK1kTMd4kCXN4kLpa4kKrk4kIrS2qVvWPocket_B's_shot&ZZ@3AHiK1BMEB3CTBN3DKkL4EQoN4FbYL3GVFN3HNuO3IQXM4JWcM4KbOP1LVfB4MTRM3NVgf3OXdL4PIjS4QdGr3RcIs4abYL3acpr4kIjS4kbhL4kTvy2qVvWPocket_B's_shot&ZZ@3AHiK1BMEB3CTBN3DKkL4EQoN3FEgM3GVFN3HNuO3IQXM4JWcM4KbOP1LVfB4MTRM3NVgf3OXdL4PToA4QdGr3RcIs2qVvWPocket_B's_shot&ZZ@[/CUETABLE]
 

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if at first you dont suceed

Skin said:
Billy, that is a great shot to know, but of course the angle into the one is critical. Here is what happened when I set it up and tried it the first time. :eek:

Skin

4 pages to the WEI booklet

[CUETABLE]http://CueTable.com/P/?@1AOKH1BMEB3CTBN3DKkL4EQoN4FOCf3GVFN3HNuO3IQXM4JWcM4KbOP1LVfB4MTRM3NVgf3OXdL4PSxE4QdGr3RcIs1UOKH2UdpB4kSxE1kQvq1kPYW1kbhH1kTUd2qVvVYOU_HAVE_POCKET_A_AND_IT'S_YOUR_SHOT&ZZ@4AAcY1BMEB3CTBN3DKkL4EQoN4FOCf3GVFN3HNuO3IQXM4JWcM4KbOP1LVfB4MTRM3NVgf3OXdL1PTMd4QdGr3RcIs4UAcY3Ucxu4aOCf4aPIw4abIK1kTMd4kCXN4kLpa4kKrk4kIrS2qVvWPocket_B's_shot&ZZ@3AHiK1BMEB3CTBN3DKkL4EQoN4FbYL3GVFN3HNuO3IQXM4JWcM4KbOP1LVfB4MTRM3NVgf3OXdL4PIjS4QdGr3RcIs4abYL3acpr4kIjS4kbhL4kTvy2qVvWPocket_B's_shot&ZZ@3AHiK1BMEB3CTBN3DKkL4EQoN3FEgM3GVFN3HNuO3IQXM4JWcM4KbOP1LVfB4MTRM3NVgf3OXdL4PToA4QdGr3RcIs2qVvWPocket_B's_shot&ZZ@[/CUETABLE]

Skin, you hit it too good, try to play a little worse.:)
 

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Skin, you hit it too good, try to play a little worse.:)
Billy You Can give up your old job For your new job. It looks like you are having big FUN. Dont stop now.
 

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Bill,

Nice job on your WEI'ing around today. You did more in one day than I did in two weeks when I learned it.

If you ever have a page that you want to eliminate from your layout, just use the 'cut page' tool. It removes the current screen displayed on the WEI. After Rod told me about this tool it came in handy many times.

Here's an example with your layout. And again, nice job.

[CUETABLE]http://CueTable.com/P/?@1AOKH1BMEB3CTBN3DKkL4EQoN4FOCf3GVFN3HNuO3IQXM4JWcM4KbOP1LVfB4MTRM3NVgf3OXdL4PSxE4QdGr3RcIs2qVvVYOU_HAVE_POCKET_A_AND_IT'S_YOUR_SHOT&ZZ@1AOSF1BMEB3CTBN3DKkL4EQoN4FOCf3GVFN3HNuO3IQXM4JWcM4KbOP1LVfB4MTRM3NVgf3OXdL4PTGR4QdGr3RcIs1UOSF2UbuG4Uatd4UalV4kTGR1kQvi1kObJ1kcPj1kUlb1kVKg2qVvVYOU_HAVE_POCKET_A_AND_IT'S_YOUR_SHOT&ZZ@[/CUETABLE]
 

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I'm either banking the one up into the eleven or the twelve ball. The two balls on his side don't go, so I'm not too worried about the cue ball. I just want to leave the cue ball near the head rail.

Or I'm going to two rail the two ball toward my hole. Another free shot to get balls and maybe win the game.
 
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I'm either banking the one up into the eleven or the twelve ball. The two balls on your opponent's side don't go, so I'm not too worried about the cue ball. I just want to leave the cue ball near the head rail.

Or I'm going to two rail the two ball toward my hole. Another free shot to get balls and maybe win the game.[/QUOTE]

Like this.

http://CueTable.com/P/?@1AQuJ1BNiA4FLhe4Kapb1LWEA3NWGS3OYCx4PRRu1UQuJ1USSj4UapG4kRRu1kQuB@


Or this.

[CUETABLE]http://CueTable.com/P/?@1ARLM1BMLQ4FIfh4KbOd1LWlC3NVhH3OYCm4PRYt1VMLQ2VOCg2VaTK4VXpJ4kRYt1kOXH1kbJH1kPxj1kHpE@[/CUETABLE]

I know my drawings aren't perfect, but I'm still getting the hang of it. At least you get the idea of a couple of other options.
 
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I'm either banking the one up into the eleven or the twelve ball. The two balls on your side don't go, so I'm not too worried about the cue ball. I just want to leave the cue ball near the head rail.

Or I'm going to two rail the two ball toward my hole. Another free shot to get balls and maybe win the game.


Jay,

If you hit the one hard enough to knock anything towards your hole, it's a good way to move balls to pocket'B'.

Dennis

[CUETABLE]http://CueTable.com/P/?@1AOKH1BMEB3CTBN3DKkL4EQoN4FOCf3GVFN3HNuO3IQXM4JWcM4KbOP1LVfB4MTRM3NVgf3OXdL4PSxE4QdGr3RcIs1UOKH1UObj1UTrL3ULYi3UVDY1gVfB4gbUY3gBca4kSxE1kOJq1kIfj2kSHm2qVvVYOU_HAVE_POCKET_A_AND_IT'S_YOUR_SHOT&ZZ@1AOKH1BMEB3CTBN3DKkL4EQoN4FOCf3GVFN3HNuO3IQXM4JWcM4KbOP1LVfB4MTRM3NVgf3OXdL4PSxE4QdGr3RcIs1UOKH1UPAl1UWtQ4UeOD1gVfB3gGxr4kSxE1kOBq1kJUk2kPfG2qVvVYOU_HAVE_POCKET_A_AND_IT'S_YOUR_SHOT&ZZ@1AOKH1BMEB3CTBN3DKkL4EQoN4FOCf3GVFN3HNuO3IQXM4JWcM4KbOP1LVfB4MTRM3NVgf3OXdL4PSxE4QdGr3RcIs1UOKH1UOrl4UbeR4UaHx3UEux4fbOP4fcEb4fHwr4kSxE1kNcr1kGrl2kVht2qVvVYOU_HAVE_POCKET_A_AND_IT'S_YOUR_SHOT&ZZ@[/CUETABLE]
 
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Jay,

If you hit the one hard enough to knock anything towards your hole, it's a good way to move balls to pocket'B'.

Dennis

[CUETABLE]http://CueTable.com/P/?@1AOKH1BMEB3CTBN3DKkL4EQoN4FOCf3GVFN3HNuO3IQXM4JWcM4KbOP1LVfB4MTRM3NVgf3OXdL4PSxE4QdGr3RcIs1UOKH1UObj1UTrL3ULYi3UVDY1gVfB4gbUY3gBca4kSxE1kOJq1kIfj2kSHm2qVvVYOU_HAVE_POCKET_A_AND_IT'S_YOUR_SHOT&ZZ@1AOKH1BMEB3CTBN3DKkL4EQoN4FOCf3GVFN3HNuO3IQXM4JWcM4KbOP1LVfB4MTRM3NVgf3OXdL4PSxE4QdGr3RcIs1UOKH1UPAl1UWtQ4UeOD1gVfB3gGxr4kSxE1kOBq1kJUk2kPfG2qVvVYOU_HAVE_POCKET_A_AND_IT'S_YOUR_SHOT&ZZ@1AOKH1BMEB3CTBN3DKkL4EQoN4FOCf3GVFN3HNuO3IQXM4JWcM4KbOP1LVfB4MTRM3NVgf3OXdL4PSxE4QdGr3RcIs1UOKH1UOrl4UbeR4UaHx3UEux4fbOP4fcEb4fHwr4kSxE1kNcr1kGrl2kVht2qVvVYOU_HAVE_POCKET_A_AND_IT'S_YOUR_SHOT&ZZ@[/CUETABLE]

More than likely if you hit either ball (the eleven or the twelve), it will be moving toward your hole. You might even get lucky and make something. Only a kiss off the side of the twelve ball could hurt you here. For that reason I want to move the cue ball toward my opponents side of the table (leaving no shot) and not hit the bank on the one too hard. Just hard enough to send balls my way. :)

It's all about speed control Dennis and accuracy. My preference if I bank the one is to miss the twelve and hit the eleven in the face. Only one place it can go, and that's toward my pocket. There's a time for offense and a time for defense. This shot/leave calls for offense more than defense.
 

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jay helfert said:
More than likely if you hit either ball (the eleven or the twelve), it will be moving toward your hole. You might even get lucky and make something. Only a kiss off the side of the twelve ball could hurt you here. For that reason I want to move the cue ball toward my opponents side of the table (leaving no shot) and not hit the bank on the one too hard. Just hard enough to send balls my way. :)

It's all about speed control Dennis and accuracy. My preference if I bank the one is to miss the twelve and hit the eleven in the face. Only one place it can go, and that's toward my pocket. There's a time for offense and a time for defense. This shot/leave calls for offense more than defense.
Jays Back Jays Back. Jay See If You Can Find A Very Good Shot In THis Diagram. Its A Very Good Shot And It Showes Up In Many Positions. Nobody Has Found It Yet . But Its A Shot EVery Onev Pocket Player Should Know. You Might find it Put Nobody Has found It Yet. Its A Gorge Shot. And You and Billy Are Some Of THe People Who Understand. What I am About. And the shots I shot I think You would shot them yourself. Why Would people rather chanange you then excepte the best shot. THat Is Very hard for me to understand.
 

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Jays Back Jays Back. Jay See If You Can Find A Very Good Shot In THis Diagram. Its A Very Good Shot And It Showes Up In Many Positions. Nobody Has Found It Yet . But Its A Shot EVery Onev Pocket Player Should Know. You Might find it Put Nobody Has found It Yet. Its A Gorge Shot. And You and Billy Are Some Of THe People Who Understand. What I am About. And the shots I shot I think You would shot them yourself. Why Would people rather chanange you then excepte the best shot. THat Is Very hard for me to understand.


Artie,

I would think that you would not take any chances and move a ball towards your hole. This is my guess as to your shot. I do think someone mentioned it earlier.

[CUETABLE]http://CueTable.com/P/?@1AOKH1BMEB3CTBN3DKkL4EQoN4FOCf3GVFN3HNuO3IQXM4JWcM4KbOP1LVfB4MTRM3NVgf3OXdL4PSxE4QdGr3RcIs1UOKH1UObj4UTQi4UUef4kSxE1kOJq1kInj1kGrS2qVvVYOU_HAVE_POCKET_A_AND_IT'S_YOUR_SHOT&ZZ@[/CUETABLE]
 

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Jays Back Jays Back. Jay See If You Can Find A Very Good Shot In THis Diagram. Its A Very Good Shot And It Showes Up In Many Positions. Nobody Has Found It Yet . But Its A Shot EVery Onev Pocket Player Should Know. You Might find it Put Nobody Has found It Yet. Its A Gorge Shot. And You and Billy Are Some Of THe People Who Understand. What I am About. And the shots I shot I think You would shot them yourself. Why Would people rather chanange you then excepte the best shot. THat Is Very hard for me to understand.

Sorry coach, I just don't see it. I would either bank at the one or two rail the two. But that's why you were always a better player than me.
 

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Artie,

I would think that you would not take any chances and move a ball towards your hole. This is my guess as to your shot. I do think someone mentioned it earlier.

[CUETABLE]http://CueTable.com/P/?@1AOKH1BMEB3CTBN3DKkL4EQoN4FOCf3GVFN3HNuO3IQXM4JWcM4KbOP1LVfB4MTRM3NVgf3OXdL4PSxE4QdGr3RcIs1UOKH1UObj4UTQi4UUef4kSxE1kOJq1kInj1kGrS2qVvVYOU_HAVE_POCKET_A_AND_IT'S_YOUR_SHOT&ZZ@[/CUETABLE]


Nothing wrong with that little move either. It might just win you the game.
 

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The problem here, guys, is that I carefully measured the ball positions on the WEI table and placed them on my real table. I am not guessing, I measured ball diameters along the rail from a reference diamond and ball diameters from the cushion towards the center of the table. Very precise.

When I set up this layout that way, and shot, the 11 ball 3-railer is dead. And the position off of it for the 6 is natural, just like I diagrammed. The position on the 12 with follow is a bit forced but do-able. I am getting at least 2 balls, maybe 3 to go ahead 6-5, out of this layout.

That is my story and I am sticking to it...for now. Three rail the 11.

Skin <--Oops! Forgot for a moment he was in the World of the WEI Table, which is an 8 footer advertised as a 9, and nobody - not even Swami Dennis - can draw a layout exactly at it lays on a real table or set it up exactly on a real table as it is drawn on the WEI. So....never mind. :)
 
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Skin said:
Skin <--Oops! Forgot for a moment he was in the World of the WEI Table, which is an 8 footer advertised as a 9, and nobody - not even Swami Dennis - can draw a layout exactly at it lays on a real table or set it up exactly on a real table as it is drawn on the WEI. So....never mind. :)


Skin,

That would take all of the fun out of it. And it is very hard to try to imagine a real 9 foot table when we are looking at these layouts.

Swami Dennis<<<-----thinks he'll have to start writing these nicknames down.
 

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jay helfert said:
Sorry coach, I just don't see it. I would either bank at the one or two rail the two. But that's why you were always a better player than me.

What is so strange to me is no one has mentioned imo the best shot, and that is kick banking the one ball.If you develope a feel for these kind of shots you really cant go wrong. Even if you don't pocket the kick your opponents in a serious trap.
 

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Is this a horrible option? I realize that many here like playing the 2 rails with the 14 and a carom bank with the 15 ball. I guess i'm curious what others like or dislike about just playing the bank on the 15? As far as execution is concerned it seems easier (to me) to focus on the 15 ball bank and use the 14 to take speed off the rock. If made there is a pretty good opportunity to get out (shown on pages 2-5)

Dudley


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