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Old 05-06-2018, 04:38 PM
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I'm 5'7".

What do you guys think?
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Old 05-06-2018, 05:55 PM
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This subject was posted over at AZB.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=474216

I'm 5'7".

What do you guys think?
Because I know how much you value my opinion, I'll help you out.

I think there's probably an ideal distance between grip and bridge for each player and each type of shot; something to do with the elbow angle at various point in the stroke. I don't think it would matter how far the butt stuck out behind the grip.

I think balance is more about personal preference for feel than anything to do with physics. Van Boening and Strickland like extra length, and I've noticed that lots of people have been experimenting lately with a mid-cue extension that gets most to around 62".

Too short could obviously be a problem.

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Old 05-06-2018, 09:09 PM
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your body adapts to whatever size you use. you just have to have your mind work that way too.

i use 57 or 58. this way i can shoot my game where ever using whatever cue i end up with.

i remember when two of your temporaries used like 53 inch cues. eddie robin and culemanns.
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Old 05-06-2018, 09:39 PM
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your body adapts to whatever size you use. you just have to have your mind work that way too.

i use 57 or 58. this way i can shoot my game where ever using whatever cue i end up with.

i remember when two of your temporaries used like 53 inch cues. eddie robin and culemanns.
I don't know about Eddie, He's liable to anything! But Ceulemans NEVER used a 53" cue for 3 cushion! Maybe playing the 'small' games!
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Old 05-06-2018, 10:48 PM
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pretty sure i did see him shooting with one at the pool room. maybe it was eddies. but he was in vegas in around 1970 and i think won the world tournament whatever it was called there.
long time ago though. i guess i could be mistaken.
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Old 05-06-2018, 11:00 PM
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This subject was posted over at AZB.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=474216

I'm 5'7".

What do you guys think?
Billy, I don't know squat about Billiards, but in pool a slightly shorter cue (57") is ideal imo for a smaller man (I'm also 5'7). Back in the day, almost all house cues and custom cues were made that length. It's only since the 70's that the standard, particularly in custom cues, has moved up to 58".

For a taller man, a longer cue is in order. Something like 59-60" is common for a big guy. Nowadays starting with Earl, some players are using cues that are 65" and longer. Seems crazy to me but what do I know.
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Old 05-07-2018, 01:33 AM
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yea jay back then if you wanted an inch or two longer cue all they did was make the shaft longer.
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Old 05-07-2018, 09:38 AM
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the first joss i bought in the 1970"s was 57 inches

when i bought a secong one in the 1990's it was 58 inches

my thoughts on cue length are once its at a length long enough to accomodate your bridgelength (distance from bridgehand to cue ball )and allow your grip hand to be perpendicular to the floor
the rest has to do with weight and balance and personal preference
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Old 05-07-2018, 10:21 AM
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the first joss i bought in the 1970"s was 57 inches

when i bought a secong one in the 1990's it was 58 inches

my thoughts on cue length are once its at a length long enough to accomodate your bridgelength (distance from bridgehand to cue ball )and allow your grip hand to be perpendicular to the floor
the rest has to do with weight and balance and personal preference
Larry, you are correct on these points! I'm pretty sure the average height of a man, during the 30's, 40's 50's, 60's, was shorter than the last 50 years, someone can look it up.

My response to the post was pertaining to, 'Carom' cues, where in all forms of carom games players alter the length of their bridge more often than pocket pool players! The cue builder in Europe who had that theory for building custom carom cues is well respected in his field.

Sometimes people when responding to posts try reading, 'between the lines,' instead of actually reading the post as printed!

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Old 05-07-2018, 10:25 AM
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pretty sure i did see him shooting with one at the pool room. maybe it was eddies. but he was in vegas in around 1970 and i think won the world tournament whatever it was called there.
long time ago though. i guess i could be mistaken.
Spoke to Raymond Ceulemans good friend, Bert Van Manen to be 100% sure of his cue length, he also confirmed R.C. NEVER played with a 53" cue! He has always played with 140-141 cm length!
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