ArkansasKingpin said:
Deeman said:Having spent a lot of time in Hot Springs, I always thought/heard that Johnson City was for pool players to hustle pool players, most being solid players but Hot Springs was for taking down the high rollers after the track day. I know Titanic Thompson (from Arkansas) almost lived there every Summer. I met Fats in Blytheville, another action spot, then first time and saw him in Hot Springs several times in the 1960's. It was there he told me, "The ponies will break your heart!"
DeeMan
Here's one at the Woodward Dream Cruise:usblues said:
Fred, was that the in the 1990's, or 1890's...fred bentivegna said:
gulfportdoc said:Fred, was that the in the 1990's, or 1890's...
And Artie, what is "hose touts"?
Doc
androd said:I was in Hot Springs in 1963. A guy there had a new 1964 Olds Starfire. I thought it was the finest car I'd seen. I asked the fellow I was with, Who owns that car.
He must be rich.
He said some fat guy staying at the Vapors, he has too borrow $100.00 a day to eat and sleep.
They call him New York Fat.
gulfportdoc said:Fred, was that the in the 1990's, or 1890's...
And Artie, what is "hose touts"?
Doc
androd said:I was in Hot Springs in 1963. A guy there had a new 1964 Olds Starfire. I thought it was the finest car I'd seen. I asked the fellow I was with, Who owns that car.
He must be rich.
He said some fat guy staying at the Vapors, he has too borrow $100.00 a day to eat and sleep.
They call him New York Fat.
Fats mademmore of his name "change" than Myra Breckenridge did of her sex change, I think! He had made the "transition" by the time I first met him. He was with The Arab, an Alabama hustler(Moore) and Cleo Vaughn back then.
Dee, was that "Junior" Moore? He's actually a little older than Squirrel (!), but he still plays pretty good one-pocket around Mobile. Knows every shark move in the book.Deeman said:Rod,
My family still has anyplace on Lake Hamilton there and we have a reunion there every year. The bath row is still there but nothing like it used to be. The Vapors is not there, of course, but the one I'm Memphis probably still is!
fred bentivegna said:
Cleo was a short card, poker and pool player.gulfportdoc said:
androd said:Cleo was a short card, poker and pool player.
Cleo was rumored to have lost 90 thousand + to Weenie Beanie in the late 1950's or early 1960's in Blytheville Ark.
He was driving a 8/10 year old chevy and living in a small house. That was a huge amount of money at that point in time.
I was with Joe Cosgrove and Joe played him 9 ball in Marked Tree Ark. in 1965.
I seem to remember that's were he was from. (?)
After the game Cleo told me he'd been working in Las Vegas for three or so years. He said he played in the smaller poker games with every paycheck and got pumped up, but never in those years beat the big games.
A few years later I heard he had part of the room in Mobile.
Later Ronnie Allen said he promised to play all the road players, but called all over and got a line on them, then had an excuse every day until their nut had run up.
That made them easier to match up with.
He was a force to be dealt with in his room.
He lost a couple of times to Richard Austin in South Haven Miss. He beat Richard every time in Mobile.
Rod.
gulfportdoc said:Dee, was that "Junior" Moore? He's actually a little older than Squirrel (!), but he still plays pretty good one-pocket around Mobile. Knows every shark move in the book.
I never got to meet Cleo, but he was evidently the best one-pocket player in the South, and one of the best in the country. I believe he had a room for many years in Mobile. Any Cleo Vaughan stories?
Doc
Billy, was that the only time you ever played Cleo?wincardona said: