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Old 10-21-2007, 07:53 PM
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I'd like to nominate Greg Sullivan for the One Pocket HOF. The Derby City Classic has already become as important as the Johnston City tournaments, and the DCC would never have happened if not for Greg Sullivan.

As to the the Eddie Robin nomination, I have this to say: Comparing Eddie's playing ability to one pocket greats is really irrelevant to the discussion. I nominated him last year, since his books on one pocket are the best to date. Eddie was a serious one pocket player in his day (so was Greg Sullivan -- though he was an even better coin-flipper).

It's also irrelevant to compare Eddie Robin to the Jansco brothers.

Both Greg Sullivan and Eddie Robin should be in the One Pocket HOF in the Teachers and Promoters category. The Jansco brothers should also be in there.

And Cliff Joyner (in the the Players category), dammit.

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Old 10-22-2007, 09:16 AM
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It's interesting to me to see the posters who come out of the woodwork at HOF time. Almost like instant coffee: add water, and poof! We've had a history of guys who have never before posted on these forums, but yet suddenly get the urge to join in order to vote for the HOF.

It's illuminating to read all the threads of opinions on who should --and why they ought to-- be considered for nominations. For example, as much as I admire Shannon Daulton's game, I realize that he is a little "young" for inclusion. Same thing for Cliff.

Likewise the Teachers and Promoters category will probably eventually see guys like Eddie Robin, Greg Sullivan or Mark Griffin, and even Steve Booth. But the Jansco brothers were promoting one pocket from 1961. They came along and promoted one-pocket for over a decade before anyone ever heard of these other gentlemen.

As has been said many times before: the HOF will never be taken seriously unless the inductees have been selected by rock solid criteria.

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Old 10-22-2007, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by J.D. Dolan
I'd like to nominate Greg Sullivan for the One Pocket HOF. The Derby City Classic has already become as important as the Johnston City tournaments, and the DCC would never have happened if not for Greg Sullivan.

As to the the Eddie Robin nomination, I have this to say: Comparing Eddie's playing ability to one pocket greats is really irrelevant to the discussion. I nominated him last year, since his books on one pocket are the best to date. Eddie was a serious one pocket player in his day (so was Greg Sullivan -- though he was an even better coin-flipper).

It's also irrelevant to compare Eddie Robin to the Jansco brothers.

Both Greg Sullivan and Eddie Robin should be in the One Pocket HOF in the Teachers and Promoters category. The Jansco brothers should also be in there.

And Cliff Joyner (in the the Players category), dammit.

IMHO
J.D. Dolan
J.D, J.D., I agree all three should probably all go in this year, together. My official order (IMHO) would be, first, The Jansco's, second, Greg Sullivan, he has always tried his darnedest to promote the game, even when it cost him personally. Lastly, Eddie Robin, the books were fabulous, but his interest in playing or promoting the game is questionable. When was the last time he was seen playing in, or attending an event?
J.D., old pal, your playing stats re Greg and Eddie are starting to sound a little Al Frankenish in their exaggeration. (...a private joke, forum members between J.D. and me) They never played past short-stop speed, and were both bushwhackers.
Finally, you were right on one more point, Greg should also be considered for the coin-toss HOF.
Absolutely finally, one more year of waiting for Cliff, the old guys need just a little more consideration.

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Old 10-22-2007, 09:45 AM
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Lets not let the HOF nominations become "POLITICAL"
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Old 10-22-2007, 05:37 PM
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With me and brother J.D., it's either pool or political. I'm big enough to overlook his faults though.

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Old 10-23-2007, 09:59 PM
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J.D, J.D., I agree all three should probably all go in this year, together. My official order (IMHO) would be, first, The Jansco's, second, Greg Sullivan, he has always tried his darnedest to promote the game, even when it cost him personally. Lastly, Eddie Robin, the books were fabulous, but his interest in playing or promoting the game is questionable. When was the last time he was seen playing in, or attending an event?
J.D., old pal, your playing stats re Greg and Eddie are starting to sound a little Al Frankenish in their exaggeration. (...a private joke, forum members between J.D. and me) They never played past short-stop speed, and were both bushwhackers.
Finally, you were right on one more point, Greg should also be considered for the coin-toss HOF.
Absolutely finally, one more year of waiting for Cliff, the old guys need just a little more consideration.

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Freddie,

I agree with you about the order, and about the playing ability of those mentioned. So what. You're still a phlegmatic turd-woofing neo-con(man) .

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Old 10-23-2007, 11:45 PM
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It's interesting to me to see the posters who come out of the woodwork at HOF time. Almost like instant coffee: add water, and poof!
Mixed metaphors. By the way, instant coffee doesn't go "poof!"

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We've had a history of guys who have never before posted on these forums, but yet suddenly get the urge to join in order to vote for the HOF.
Actually, I've been a member of OnePocket.Org since August of 2004. I play in the DCC every year, and I attend the HOF dinner every year (even worked the front door at the last one). I don't post very often on this forum, but I do post regularly (you seem to have enjoyed my annual April Fool's posts). Also, as a professional writer (one who's written feature pieces about pool for Esquire and Details), I simply don't have time to blogurgitate my every thought (or, for that matter, to ingest yours).

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Old 10-24-2007, 01:03 AM
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You know if it wasnt for Pat FLeming we wouldnt have all those wonderful one pocket tapes we keep talking about. Pat should have an honored place in the HOF. THose tapes allow those to learn and see the greatest in their prime. And go to places were little one pocket is seldom played. To deny him recognition in any pool hall of fame would be egregious.
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Old 10-24-2007, 08:12 AM
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You know if it wasnt for Pat FLeming we wouldnt have all those wonderful one pocket tapes we keep talking about. Pat should have an honored place in the HOF. THose tapes allow those to learn and see the greatest in their prime. And go to places were little one pocket is seldom played. To deny him recognition in any pool hall of fame would be egregious.
I agree 100%!

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Old 10-24-2007, 09:31 AM
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"blogurgitate" J.D. Dolan
Now, this is a word the English language has sorely needed. I have seen pockets do this with game-balls that are straight-in and hangers but until this moment I was unaware of the word describing the action or, for that matter, that there even existed such a word.
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