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Old 01-03-2018, 09:13 AM
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the 13/12 is almost dead in your opponents pocket and must be taken into consideration before you shoot. if you miss the long combo and leave whitey below the stack that combo will spread the balls wide open for "the other guy".
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Old 01-03-2018, 10:04 AM
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Bank the 14 with slight cut to the right and draw the cue back to the top rail. Make your opponent come with a shot off the top rail. A miss from here could cost you the advantage that you have. Let him shoot the circus shot.
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Old 01-03-2018, 11:38 AM
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The master, Efren Reyes had this shot against me. He went rail first on the six ball and kicked it into the three ball and slid the cueball over protecting himself from a sell out. Of course he then proceeded to run out.
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Old 01-03-2018, 11:55 AM
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Interesting situation, the 6-3 combination will always be a strong consideration because of the way the balls are laying with the 3ball in what we call the "big ball" position. The "big ball" position is when a ball is 1/4" or so from the rail this allows the shooter to hit the shot poorly and still pocket the ball. Yes, you can hit the rail before the ball and pocket it and you can also hit the ball first and pocket it. This particular layout with the 3ball positioned so close to the pocket and also laying in the "big ball" position makes this option very, very, inviting.

Banking the 14ball is the other consideration for many but how do we bank it is the question? In this situation, the way the balls are laying and particularly how the angle presents itself to go to the pocket with the bank is tricky because of controlling the cue ball, which is the "key" to this option. If I were to choose the 14ball option I wouldn't bank it to go toward the pocket because of the angle it lays on, I would bank it to go toward the 6ball and follow through the 14ball which would position the cue ball in a much better area on the table protecting my 3ball.

If you are going all out with the combo I understand that because of the explanation above, however, if you are choosing the 14ball then you shouldn't go all out because you may lose your superior position by allowing your opponent back at the table with options, you should play a better cue ball.

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Old 01-03-2018, 12:16 PM
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Interesting situation, the 6-3 combination will always be a strong consideration because of the way the balls are laying with the 3ball in what we call the "big ball" position. The "big ball" position is when a ball is 1/4" or so from the rail this allows the shooter to hit the shot poorly and still pocket the ball. Yes, you can hit the rail before the ball and pocket it and you can also hit the ball first and pocket it. This particular layout with the 3ball positioned so close to the pocket and also laying in the "big ball" position makes this option very, very, inviting.

Banking the 14ball is the other consideration for many but how do we bank it is the question? In this situation, the way the balls are laying and particularly how the angle presents itself to go to the pocket with the bank is tricky because of controlling the cue ball, which is the "key" to this option. If I were to choose the 14ball option I wouldn't bank it to go toward the pocket because of the angle it lays on, I would bank it to go toward the 6ball and follow through the 14ball which would position the cue ball in a much better area on the table protecting my 3ball.

If you are going all out with the combo I understand that because of the explanation above, however, if you are choosing the 14ball then you shouldn't go all out because you may lose your superior position by allowing your opponent back at the table with options, you should play a better cue ball.

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Old 01-03-2018, 12:18 PM
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The master, Efren Reyes had this shot against me. He went rail first on the six ball and kicked it into the three ball and slid the cueball over protecting himself from a sell out. Of course he then proceeded to run out.
Jerry I think you meant kicking the 2 ball?
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Old 01-03-2018, 12:18 PM
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I think Billy pointed our most of the options.

I canít tell from the pic but if the 14 is off the rail you can just kick and stop the cue ball.

I am a very aggressive player and would love to shoot the combo but looking at the cue ball and the fact you are in a strong position, I would pass.

Bill S.
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Old 01-03-2018, 12:27 PM
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Old 01-03-2018, 12:30 PM
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Rail first kicking the 14. CB doubles off the long rail after the kick and comes to rest on the stack.
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Old 01-03-2018, 12:34 PM
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I would play the 6/3 combo. Good opportunity to run some balls without selling out.
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